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jay original
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id...065&cc=5901

I am not sure what was more entertaining; seeing the story or the ESPN.com caption for the article, "Hot Tranny Mess". Given the culture of Brazil where men are straight as long as they are tops/the man, I wouldn't be surprised if there was more to this story and it was just dismissed. I can't wait until my friend gets married in Brazil next year!
J eddie
QUOTE(jay original @ Apr 28 2008, 11:04 PM) *

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id...065&cc=5901

I am not sure what was more entertaining; seeing the story or the ESPN.com caption for the article, "Hot Tranny Mess". Given the culture of Brazil where men are straight as long as they are tops/the man, I wouldn't be surprised if there was more to this story and it was just dismissed. I can't wait until my friend gets married in Brazil next year!


That story is referring to transvestites not transexuals.
SCTrojan
My friend Fabio from Sao Paolo has said that straight Brazilian men will have sex w/ anyone regardless of gender or orientation...Horny lil MoFos! tongue.gif

Ronaldo needs to stop playin the "innocent" I-had-no-idea-she-was-a-tranny "victim!" rolleyes.gif
jay original
Eddie, I was going to say "oops" and blame it on the whole label game that keeps evolving within the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Gender Non-Conforming, Questioning, and Allied Community, and how I just think in terms of Andrew Dice Clay's words, "either you suck dick or don't"...but then I realized that having not spoken to the prostitutes from the case they could be transvestites or pre-op transexuals who have embraced a transvestite lifestyle.

Trojs, I agree with your sentiment. It's difficult for me to imagine that someone who grew up around Carnivale in Brazil with all of its cross-dressing glory where the culture does permit men to sleep with other men without shame and who is a well traveled and wordly Soccer Deity....I don't see him being confused about whether someone is a man or a woman. I could tell when I was five and there was a Transvestite who lived down the street from my grandparents. The fact that the prostitute left only says to me that s/he wanted to avoid a beat down by the cops who were looking to protect one of their country's biggest stars. If only American law enforcement had such regard... cool.gif
jay original
The hooker is on youtube!

http://dlisted.com/node/25572

I must admit that I am a bit saddened that Outsports hasn't run a full story on this event, if only to bring out the boo birds who like to accuse the site of participating in salacious, gutter journalism from time to time. biggrin.gif
fantomas
More power to Ronaldo, but seriously, he's still attractive and famous enough that he should be able to get it, tranny-style or not, for free!
Enigma
I would like to point out that it's the Brazilian RONALDO... not the Portuguese CRISTIANO RONALDO who plays for Manchester United.

So many people called me asking about Cristiano... and I had to tell them, nope it's the washed up one tongue.gif
theodoresdaddy
shades of Eddie Murphy!
SCTrojan
Get out...offffff...meeeee. Oh wait Theosdaddy, I've been scolded for saying that b4. Nevermind. tongue.gif
jay original
I wouldn't say that Ronaldo is washed up....he's just going through a transition period. I agree that he could pull some even without being a major Soccer Deity, but I know a lot of gorgeous models whose self esteem is about as high as a shag carpet. You gotta work to live your best life. tongue.gif Speaking of shagging, Cristiano Ronaldo looks like Lurch to me compared to the original Ronaldo. And as far as talent goes, Cristiano is an overrated prima donna. Boo to him and Manchester U!
mdterp01
QUOTE(SCTrojan @ Apr 29 2008, 09:24 AM) *

My friend Fabio from Sao Paolo has said that straight Brazilian men will have sex w/ anyone regardless of gender or orientation...Horny lil MoFos! tongue.gif

Ronaldo needs to stop playin the "innocent" I-had-no-idea-she-was-a-tranny "victim!" rolleyes.gif


Your friend is really not exaggerating that much. I got turned out when I went to Brazil. That was back in my ho-ish days when I changed sexual partners like underwear. I agree though that he could definitely get it. And I agree about Cristiano Ronaldo. Even though I always play the Wendy Williams dental drill when I see him (he needs braces or somethin) he's got a hot bod. But he's killin me with the super metro thing and walking around with his Gucci and Louis Vuitton man purses. rolleyes.gif
jay original
Turns out the prostitute who said Ronaldo took drugs also said he had sex with the cross-dressers!
Ronaldo denies it of course. But it was interesting to see this admission come into play after the first story broke.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/socc...s.ap/index.html

By the way, Terp, you've given me a real dilemma. I had thought about taking this dude I'm kind of into to Brazil but it's not really serious and the idea of just going alone and having a good time sounds much more appealing. He's Brazilian though, that's why I thought it would be cool. Then again, I am moving into a new phase of my life where I just don't want to be treated like a piece of meat... laugh.gif

I just found this hilarious commercial on Brazilian YouTube: http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=74IA2NIE7ag&...feature=related

There are links on the side as well to the trannie's footage of Ronaldo and some news coverage.
studd
Bros give me a fawking break, I dont believe this sh--t about Rolando being a bugaron. I am sure that is how he wants to play it off. More likely another masculine, agressive, competive man looking for a little role reversal. Man, if you are a footballer who had reached that level and in Brazil, there are always women and in Brazil some men throwing themselves at you. It happens everywhere he goes. The problem is that they are looking for him to bugger them and Rolando is just a straight guy looking for a chick, but in this case with a big d....
mdterp01
QUOTE(jay original @ May 5 2008, 12:40 AM) *


By the way, Terp, you've given me a real dilemma. I had thought about taking this dude I'm kind of into to Brazil but it's not really serious and the idea of just going alone and having a good time sounds much more appealing. He's Brazilian though, that's why I thought it would be cool. Then again, I am moving into a new phase of my life where I just don't want to be treated like a piece of meat... laugh.gif


Jay....GO ALONE!!! Oh god I say that every gay man needs to have a solo trip to Brazil at least once in his lifetime, preferably when you are young enough to really have that hot, wild good time. And its not necessarily about sex either. Don't get me wrong...the sexual stuff was great, but I met some really great people and it was really fun just learning the area and hanging at the beach and going to different restaurants and going out at night. But yeah....trust and believe...go alone!!!
jay original
QUOTE(mdterp01 @ May 6 2008, 02:08 PM) *

Jay....GO ALONE!!! Oh god I say that every gay man needs to have a solo trip to Brazil at least once in his lifetime....trust and believe...go alone!!!


Terp, I have a habit of linking songs to moments in my life and you've totally set the tone for my Brazil Ipod mix: http://youtube.com/watch?v=qUdLjuV_cro

This is one of my favorite Beck songs; now I keep thinking that the chick in the video is a cross-dresser. LMFAO

You definitely will get a postcard. biggrin.gif
studd
I know two guys who went there, one was brazaian the other not. Both big muscular tough, not targets by any means nor are they famous and subject to kidnappers. They picked up these two guys outside of a bar, while maybe they were drunk they claim they were not completely out of it. When they were driving one of the guys they picked up took out a gun, my friends got into a ruckus, the brazalian got shot but not not real bad. They made the other guy take some money out of a bank ATM and left them both tied up. They got loose, the one not injured went to the police who did nothing, they didnt even want to do a report. The guy who was shot came out ok. Needless to say the guy who wasnt brazalian hightailed it out of there and rarely goes back and only if he knows he is going to be completely safe. Not the place to pick up straight guys I 'd say but its your choice. I'd suggest Southern Italy-Naples if thats you scene, fewer guns and less petty crime, just the mafia but I guess they own the bars so they want nothing with trouble.
mdterp01
Aye dios mio. Que horible. I hear about these "turistas" horror stories and thank god nothing like this has ever happened to me, although I'm sure it happens more than we hear about. I just wouldn't let something like that keep me from going to a place. I've often relied on my common sense and gut feelings about people to get me through. Anybody who goes to a place by themselves should set certain rules for themselves. Whenever I go somewhere alone, I never let it be known that I am there by myself. I either say that I have relatives or friends in the area, or that I am there on business so that they have the idea that if my ass goes missing someone will be immediately looking. Familiarize yourself with an area. Don't look like a tourist (i.e. takin damn pictures of everything in sight and wearing I love (insert city/country shirts rolleyes.gif ). I am not a picture person at all so thats something I've never had to worry about. Many of those thugs spot tourists in a second and often can decipher really quickly if they can take advantage of them. Now with all that said, it doesn't mean that I won't still be a victim of some kind of crime, however I think its best to be preventive and not make myself more of a target and be like oh yeah I'm here for two weeks all by myself.

In addition, the basic rules one would follow here in the US when it comes to going out. Never accept a drink from someone you don't know, and if you put your drink down and turn from it, you're done with it. Hell, nowadays you even have to be weary of bartenders because some of them are slipping things into drinks while they are making them. So you need to watch their asses too. Now in terms of going back to your hotel or villa or back to some random guys house while you are there, of course that is always a risk. Again, use your gut and be wise to leave a message with someone that you are going to some guy's place. These sound like things that would have people thinking wow thats a lot of effort and would kind of ruin the experience sounding all paranoid. It really isn't. Its just a few simple things that everyone should follow. Its become so second nature to me that its not even that big a deal. Its not like I'm looking over my shoulder at every turn for someone to get me. I just always make myself aware of my surroundings and do things to not put myself in positions that will make me a target. I have traveled all over the world and have never been a victim of any kind of foolishness. I think being 6'3 215lbs helps but more of it I think has to do with common sense. Of course, the thing about common sense is that its not so common. So....GOOD LUCK!! laugh.gif
SCTrojan
Good point studd. I would also be cautious about picking up men (straight, bi, or gay) in Latin America. Not only because of their motives, but also because if something were to happen the police in just about every country is pretty corrupt & sometimes can be homophobic too. Just try to use wise judgment that's all.

I remember traveling to Mexico several years ago when I was single & I was being cautious about who I was talking to but trying to balance that w/ still having a good time. I went w/ my Mexican friends who lived there so their input also helped me lots. At any rate, I ended up meeting this sexy Venezuelan who had immigrated to the US & lived in Baltimore. He was certainly an "assimilated" Venezuelan American. Needless to say, we ended up having a good time before & after leaving the bar. wink.gif

Oh, mdterp01 is right, don't look like a tourist--especially do not wear any type of jewelry, expensive watches, etc, in Brazil. Evn during broad daylight. Brazil is notoriously known for muggings. And always stay w/ crowds when out & about, never alone.
studd
QUOTE(SCTrojan @ May 6 2008, 03:34 PM) *

Good point studd. I would also be cautious about picking up men (straight, bi, or gay) in Latin America. Not only because of their motives, but also because if something were to happen the police in just about every country is pretty corrupt & sometimes can be homophobic too. Just try to use wise judgment that's all.

I remember traveling to Mexico several years ago when I was single & I was being cautious about who I was talking to but trying to balance that w/ still having a good time. I went w/ my Mexican friends who lived there so their input also helped me lots. At any rate, I ended up meeting this sexy Venezuelan who had immigrated to the US & lived in Baltimore. He was certainly an "assimilated" Venezuelan American. Needless to say, we ended up having a good time before & after leaving the bar. wink.gif

Oh, mdterp01 is right, don't look like a tourist--especially do not wear any type of jewelry, expensive watches, etc, in Brazil. Evn during broad daylight. Brazil is notoriously known for muggings. And always stay w/ crowds when out & about, never alone.



and then they use to send these fricken army of starving kids down the beach to steal your money etc.

oh did i mention that the brazalian adult men are hot, sexy, with better attitude than the argentinan men, and women for that matter. there is a reason to go.
jay original
I hear what you guys are saying about picking up guys and traveling, but I feel like you can be hurt anywhere if you don't use common sense. I have lived in NYC and LA, but if I walk around my home town in Ohio population 10,000 with my head in the clouds, I'm looking for trouble. Similarly, people can be robbed or killed leaving a bar anywhere in the world. The sex I've had in France and Italy with guys I had just met was no less dangerous than the sex I had with guys in Puerto Rico and Ghana. I think it all depends on how you carry yourself and what situations you put yourself in.

I plan to hit up Milan/Naples during fashion week in September, but I also recall everyone in Venice and Florence telling me not to go south because it was dangerous and full of poor "mongrels". (And yes, people did say this to me even though I am black American.) As for Brazil, I have friends who were robbed at gunpoint. But the brother of one of my best friends was shot and killed during a robbery when I was 17, in Ohio. I think you just have to live your life, make sure everyone you love knows that you love them, and just have a good time.
mdterp01
Jay...you are correct sir. Thats really all you can do. I mean hell I take a risk with my life every day when I get in the car and share the road with these non driving motherf*ckers who are texting and eating and cell phone dialing and tryin to set their gps. When it comes to travel I'm just not going to be deterred by that kind of stuff. You're right. The same thing can easily happen right here in your own neighborhood/town. But again, don't do things that increase your chances of being a target.
Joe in Philly
QUOTE(jay original @ May 5 2008, 12:40 AM) *

Turns out the prostitute who said Ronaldo took drugs also said he had sex with the cross-dressers!
Ronaldo denies it of course. But it was interesting to see this admission come into play after the first story broke.


What it sounds like to me is the cross-dressers changing their story, sensing that their 15 minutes are slipping away more rapidly than they thought.
jay original
I thought someone else would mention it, but I really need Ronaldo to get a haircut. happy.gif
SCTrojan
QUOTE(Joe in Philly @ May 6 2008, 08:21 PM) *

What it sounds like to me is the cross-dressers changing their story, sensing that their 15 minutes are slipping away more rapidly than they thought.


Considering the history--and reputation for that matter--of straight Brazilian men, there's probably some half truths by both the cross-dressers & Ronaldo. Just sayin.
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