QUOTE(Bill W @ Jun 23 2008, 05:19 PM)

There'll be a good socialist somewhere on the ballot, I'm sure.
Would you care to address the substance of the FISA bill, or are you better at referring to old SNL skits than you are at spelling FISA?
Yep, Obama's cave was disgusting. As was the Democratic leadership's secretive, cowardly behavior. Yes, I gave money to Chris Dodd when he was running and supported his filibuster threats. Yes, I think Russ Feingold is great and right on that this is "capitulation." Yes, I want to see the telecoms prosecuted, and Bush investigated for his warrantless wiretapping, which I used to post about on here. No, I don't think Obama is a saint. Yes, he is a politician. Yes, he is 1,000 times better than McCain. No, he is not that progressive. Yes, he is more progressive than McCain, by a long shot.
Yes, you can vote for the socialist or Cynthia McKinney or Ron Paul or Bob Barr or whoever. New York, like the entire northeast, will go for Obama.