Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: Canada public opinion poll question:
Outsports Discussion Board > Outsports > Politics & Religion
hockeyTom
I saw these results yesterday on "Hardball".

#1-Barack Obama
#2- Canadas' Prime Minister Mr. Harper
#3-was Hillary Clinton.
John McBush was way down the list...

Way to go Canada! You have picked a winner with Obama in my opinion! smile.gif
Veritas
Until Canadians are able to vote for U.S. President, who gives a shit what they think? Considering Obama's a frackin' Socialist, and Canada is pretty much a Socialist country, their opinion is no surprise.
hockeyTom
Obviously you don't.....Another dull day at the RNC I see..... rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif Carry on!
Marc
Veritas: Well if Canadians are as 'socialist' as you claim, why would we pick a conservative like Stephen Harper be on that list?? Actually, his standings in the polls up here have not improved much since he became Prime Minister in Jan '06, but that's mainly due to a weak Opposition leader.

Hockeytom: If possible, can you provide a link to the 'Hardball' story, as I'd like to see how the question was worded and what the figures were, thanks.
hockeyTom
I'll see what I can find Marc. If I recall Obama had about 28%, Harper was next at about 25%, and Hillary was next with about 20% give or take. Will see what I can find... smile.gif
Lksimcoe
Veritas

WARNING TO BOARD MEMBERS. THIS IS AN OFFICIAL RANT.

I guess we were all misinformed.

I wasn't aware that this discussion board was restricted to Americans only. How silly of us Canadians to think that it was a place for an honest exchange of ideas. We weren't aware that anything non-American iis garbage. (tongue firmly removed from cheek).

Oh, and one other thing Veritas. We might be "socialist" in your eyes, but we don't have 40 MILLION people without health care. We don't have a mortgage crisis, as here the types you can offer are VERY tightly restricted. Our housing values are still rising, and our unemployement is still dropping. And we've done all this including increasing the funding for our military by over 500%.

And before you crap on our military, as a percentage of the troop levels, Canada has lost more troops in Afghanistan than any other nation. To put it bluntly, if the US had the same percentage of casualties that Canada has had, the US losses would have been 5,800 soldiers.

Oh, and for the past 10 years, we've had budget SURPLUSES, and we have payed down our international debt subtantially.

But then again, as a non-American, that doesn't matter does it. It's not REMOTELY FREAKIN POSSIBLE that another country might have figured something out that you could learn from?

Quoting bugs bunny.

What a maroon.

hockeyTom
Canada has ALOT to be envious of in my opinion...thats why this election is SO important. Some 80% of Americans think the country is on the wrong track. Well duh! rolleyes.gif
canmark
I believe this is the poll in question:

Weighing in on war and politics

A poll of 1,000 Canadians and 1,000 Americans found Canadians are much more likely to think that the Iraq war was the wrong decision.

Do you believe the U.S. government made the right or wrong decision to become involved in the Iraq war?

CANADA

Wrong decision: 82%
Right decision: 12%
Don't know: 6%

UNITED STATES

Wrong decision: 54%
Right decision: 40%
Don't know: 6%


Canadians were asked:

Which politician do you admire most?

Barack Obama: 26%
Stephen Harper: 21%
Hillary Clinton: 16%
Jack Layton: 9%
Gilles Duceppe: 6%
Stéphane Dion: 5%
John McCain: 3%

aquaman
Veritas:

I suppose "socialist" is the new communist or the new pinko or the new whatever-is-being-dispensed-by-the-Anne-Coulter-Rush-Limbaugh-wing-of-the-GOP. Seriously, if you have an issue with asking a global audience with what they think of global politicians, please say so. But falsely labeling someone a socialist just because he is more popular internationally than your candidate (or the current standard bearer of your ideology) strikes me as petty name calling and beneath anyone with more than an eight grade education. Grow up.

Oh so sincereley.
aquaman
millerbeach
Poor, poor Veritas. It is going to hurt you so much to say "President Obama", won't it. Too bad. Look on the bright side...your buddy Rush just signed a multi-million, multi-year contract...the lies are sure to flow for a while! It's suckers like you that keep Rush in the green. Does he give you a cut to post here?

(edited to add link)

Here's something I stumbled across...

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/news...adian_88335.asp



Receive mediabistro.com's Daily FishbowlNY Feed via email




Tuesday Jul 01, 2008
Barack Obama: Definitely Not Muslim, Maybe Canadian

So, back to Canada where Barack Obama also happens to be a frequent topic of discussion. Considering Canada and the U.S. share the longest undefended border in the entire world, it's perhaps not surprising that Canadians are pretty focused on the American election (sometimes a little too much).

Anyway, while the GOP appears to be spending a lot of time highlighting Obama's foreign "connections" Canada can't seem to get enough of what we refer to as "multi-culturalism" (also known as a "tossed salad"). According to the Globe and Mail's John Ibbitson, even though "self-interested Canadians should probably be backing the Republicans in this election" (McCain defends and supports free trade) we love Obama, to the tune of 55% plus vs. 15% for McCain. Are we just incapable of looking after our own best interests? Nope that's not it at all.




The most obvious reason is that Canadians are Democrats, except in Alberta. It has been said that the greatest contribution Canada could make to global civilization would be to allow ourselves to be annexed by the United States, thus ensuring Democratic administrations in perpetuity.

So when Mr. Obama speaks of withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq, when he calls for greater public involvement in health care, when he promises to fight global warming, he is promoting policies and espousing values shared by some Americans but most Canadians.

More important, Mr. Obama epitomizes the multicultural present that Canada celebrates. While we are stuck with an uninspiring assortment of mostly middle-aged white males to lead our country, Americans are contemplating electing a Kenyan-American who has an Indonesian-American half-sister who is herself married to a Chinese-Canadian doctor. Mr. Obama shouldn't belong to the United States. He should belong to us.


Posted by Glynnis | 01:21 PM | Newspapers

Marc
Nobody has asked, but I suspect many Americans here are unfamiliar with most of the Canadian politicians named in that poll, except perhaps Stephen Harper (the Conservative party leader and minority-government Prime Minister of the "People's Socialist Republic of Canuckistan"). So here's an explanation of who's who from the list:

--Stephan Dion: Leader of the Liberal Party, the party with the second-highest number of seats in the House of Commons, and one of the weakest leaders they have had in a long time (much to Harper's delight).
--Jack Layton: Leader of the New Democratic Party, the ONLY party with seats that could be considered 'socialist-leaning' (take note, Veritas). The NDP has never formed a federal government, and probably never will, although they have had more success at the provincial level.
--Gilles Duceppe: Leader of the Bloc Quebecois, a 'sovereigntist' (read: separatist) party which only runs and elects candidates from the province of Quebec. The soverignty movement in Quebec has been in decline for the last several years. However, back in 1995, a referendum on separation was lost by the separatists by a very narrow margin.

From the article posted by Millerbeach:

perhaps not surprising that Canadians are pretty focused on the American election (sometimes a little too much).

I disagree. While it is certainly a fact that Canadians take more interest in US elections than Americans do in our elections, I wouldn't go as far as saying we are 'pretty focussed' on it. There is of course some coverage on CBC and other Canadian networks, but far less than the obsessive coverage on CNN. There are other stories happening in our world besides the US election. If anything, I think Canadians are tuning out and have become quite weary of the excruciatingly long drawn-out campaigns that Americans have, in stark contrast to what happens here. However, I'm sure the interest will pick up as the election finally draws near.

The most obvious reason is that Canadians are Democrats, except in Alberta.

That's a rather blanket statement, and I don't agree that the Democrats are disliked here in Alberta. I recall a poll several months ago which showed Obama and Clinton were more popular here than McCain, albeit by a smaller margin. However, this province has been stung by well-deserved criticism by Obama and other US politicians over the massive oil sands project here, and that may have caused some recent decline in support for the Democrats. The Alberta government is now scrambling to prove how environmentally responsible it is (the favourite game among politicians in Canada these days is to 'out-green' each other).
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.
Invision Power Board © 2001-2012 Invision Power Services, Inc.