Chill-Trick
Oct 19 2008, 08:51 AM
I wonder if they actually know anything she stands for, or just that she's a hot MILF?
millerbeach
Oct 20 2008, 12:03 AM
Seriously, you think she's attractive? I guess she is...until she opens her mouth.
Chill-Trick
Oct 20 2008, 08:20 AM
QUOTE(millerbeach @ Oct 20 2008, 01:03 AM)

Seriously, you think she's attractive? I guess she is...until she opens her mouth.
She is attractive, but I wasn't speaking for me, I'm speaking for the average college age/twenty something man saying "Yeah man she's a hot P.O.A., I'd hit it"
Maddog
Oct 20 2008, 09:02 AM
QUOTE(canmark @ Oct 19 2008, 06:18 AM)

It's a fact: Joe Sixpacks
love the maverick woman.
I'd like to buy a vowel.
Chill-Trick
Oct 20 2008, 09:32 AM
And which vowel would that be Maddog
TheOtherFSU
Oct 20 2008, 10:22 AM
From CNN.com:
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colorado (CNN) — Add one more policy item to the list of things John McCain and Sarah Palin disagree on.
Palin told CBN’s David Brody over the weekend that she supports a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, a proposal John McCain voted against in 2004. McCain believes the matter should be left to the states.
Brody asked Palin if she supports “something like” an amendment banning gay marriage.
“I am,” Palin said. “In my own state, I have voted along with the vast majority of Alaskans who had the opportunity to vote to amend our Constitution defining marriage as between one man and one woman. I wish on a federal level that that's where we would go because I don't support gay marriage.
“I'm not going to be out there judging individuals, sitting in a seat of judgment telling what they can and can't do, should and should not do,” she said. “But I certainly can express my own opinion here and take actions that I believe would be best for traditional marriage and that's casting my votes and speaking up for traditional marriage that, that instrument that it's the foundation of our society is that strong family and that's based on that traditional definition of marriage, so I do support that.”
Usually, reporters correct the grammar before submitting the story. I guess with Palin they want to show her as she is, which is pretty damn dumb. Who uses the words "that" and "that's" 8 times in a single sentence? (i.e. "traditional marriage that, that instrument that it's the foundation of our society is that...)
Also today... in a new Virginia poll conducted by Fox/Rasmussen, Obama is up by 10 points (his largest lead ever there), and in the Gallup daily tracking poll, Obama is up by 11 points again (including +9 among likely voters). He's leading 52-41 among all voters and 52-43 among likely voters. Gallup notes that no candidate has ever come from more than 5 points behind in their likely voter model in the final two weeks of a presidential campaign.
mdterp01
Oct 22 2008, 05:27 PM
So whats up with this AP Poll that shows Obama ahead by only one point? Its so different from the other polls but one that is probably making the McCain campaign happy and giving them some hope that perhaps they are gaining ground. Barack is smart to remind his staff of New Hampshire. Now is not the time to put any trust in a poll no matter if it has you up by 14 or up by 1. He should still consider himself the underdog in this and make sure that get out the vote effort is the best this country has ever seen.
AP Poll: Obama by 1
TheOtherFSU
Oct 22 2008, 05:49 PM
Nate Silver at 538.com had a good analysis on that horrendous AP poll today that showed Obama up only 1% nationally. The internals in that poll are tremendously off. For example, their poll overall had Obama up by 10% at 47-37 but only ahead 44-43 among likely voters. They're one of the only pollsters out there that is predicting a lower turnout than in 2004. That is soooooo wrong (and early voting is way way up compared to '04 so you know they've got it wrong in the AP poll). Plus, this AP poll shows McCain winning suburban voters by 18%, though the NBC News/WSJ poll out yesterday and the ABC News/WashPost poll out today show the exact opposite (Obama leading big by 20% among suburbans). And then other huge quirks in the AP poll: they show born-agains making up 44% in the current polling sample, even though born-agains made up only 24% of the 2004 voters. So to use a model featuring nearly twice as many born-agains as voted in 2004 is just wrong. They also have McCain leading big among those ages 18-29 when we all know that Obama is leading big among that age group. There were several other polls out this week showing Obama up by as much as 40% among younger voters. So this poll has raised a gigantic red flag on those wacky internets. It's just wrong. The Associated Press used to be so neutral but not anymore. Do you remember after the first debate, the official AP story that was released afterwards said McCain won the debate and did all the right things he needed to do. Keith Olbermann had a field day with that one because he lambasted AP for taking a stand and writing stuff like that on a tight deadline that went into all the morning papers on the East coast. It was factually untrue, and all the polls afterward showed Obama won that debate. (On a side note, things have gotten so bad that many prominent newspapers across the country are opting to drop their affiliations with AP and will no longer carry AP news stories. That's a dramatic development.)
Five of the eight national tracking polls today showed Obama increasing his lead, sometimes dramatically. He's now up 11 in ABC News, 10 in Zogby, 12 in Research 2000, 9 in Fox News, 8 in Gallup, etc. Add in his 14-point lead in Pew Research from yesterday and his 13-point lead in CBS polling, and there's no way this is a 1-point race. Most experts say Obama currently has between an 8- and 10-point lead at the moment. Chuck Todd said this morning that we're nearing landslide territory, especially so close to election day.
Munson Man
Oct 22 2008, 06:13 PM
The one point margin is absurd. that's an outlier poll. By the same token I think the Pew Research poll showing the 14 point lead is equally absurd. My gut feeling is that Rasmussen, who has it at 6% or so, is probably right.
mdterp01
Oct 22 2008, 06:17 PM
Thank you FSU for that explanation. That poll did seem to contradict what I had heard in other polls, and it just left me scratching my head a bit. I agree with Munson too in that I don't believe Obama is up by 14. I say he's somewhere between 6 and 8 points up. From what they keep saying about Obama's massive ground game organization and the lack of McCain's however, I think election night may prove to show just how superior his grass roots organization campaign was.
TheOtherFSU
Oct 22 2008, 06:21 PM
QUOTE(Munson Man @ Oct 22 2008, 04:13 PM)

The one point margin is absurd. that's an outlier poll. By the same token I think the Pew Research poll showing the 14 point lead is equally absurd. My gut feeling is that Rasmussen, who has it at 6% or so, is probably right.
Yeah, Rasmussen is probably as good as any of them. They've shown the most reliably consistent race of any poll. They've gone something like 30 straight days now where Obama has been between 50 and 52% while McCain has been between 44 and 46% and it's never wavered. I was reading Rasmussen the other day and their belief is that the race was basically decided after the first debate and no one has really changed their mind.
Oh, another thing about that AP poll is this: they used a 5-day sample where they interviewed 160 "likely" voters each day. 160 people nationally each day to account for the 150 million people who will cast ballots. I've never really understood proper sampling techniques but it seems like you need a bigger sample than that.
TheOtherFSU
Oct 23 2008, 12:14 AM
Zogby releases his polls first each day at 1 a.m. Eastern time. His poll for Thursday, Oct. 23, is out now and he shows Obama up by the largest margin ever in a Zogby poll (12%) at 52-40. Zogby shows Obama leading by an amazing 50% among voters under age 25; Obama up 29% among independents, up 6% now among men and up 18% among women. Zogby's polling sample is almost three times larger than the one the AP used in its poll. Here's the story:
Obama's base is solid; McCain's is showing cracks
UTICA, New York (Reuters) -- Democrat Barack Obama has slowly built a 12-point lead over Republican John McCain, consolidating support among young voters, Hispanics, and independent voters while McCain's support, even among his Republican base, is fading heading down the stretch, the latest Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby daily tracking poll released Thursday shows.
"Obama now has a huge lead among young voters, independents, and Hispanic voters," pollster John Zogby said. "It's obviously not over. Frankly, this could tighten up and then loosen up again before Election Day. We saw movement on Election Day in New Hampshire, but at least for now, Obama has a very big lead. In the absence of news, McCain is not connecting. He seemed to be connecting during and immediately after the last debate, but got lost in issues that are not on people's minds. At some point, there are some issues that just overwhelm, and McCain has been particularly weak on the economy. He misstated the problem, confused his position, acted in a frantic way, and then looked like he wanted to run away from it. Meanwhile, Obama has been cool and confident, which worked for FDR in 1932 and worked for Ronald Reagan in 1980."
"I am very comfortable with our sample, especially given our track record in the last three presidential elections. Look at other polls and ask - Do they have enough college educated respondents? Enough Hispanics? Enough young voters? We do. And we have more Republicans in our sample than anyone else," Zogby said. Obama leads 52.2% to 40.3% among the 1,200 likely voters.
TheOtherFSU
Oct 23 2008, 09:06 AM
Ooh, Rasmussen is falling in line too and showing Obama's lead expanding. He's up 52-45 nationally today in their conservative-leaning poll, which is a great sign. Rasmussen has been tracking the race longer than just about any other pollster (138 consecutive days) and on only 2 of those 138 days has Obama held a bigger lead than he does today. Considering that their results have seldom changed day-to-day, it's interesting that Obama has picked up 1% each of the last two days. That's a downright surge if you trust Rasmussen's polling technique, which is probably as good as any.
More great
swing state polling news for Obama today too, especially in Ohio and Indiana. The latest Big 10/Battleground polls are out, along with a new assortment of Quinnipiac polls:
Ohio - Obama by 12 (53 to 41 in Battleground poll)
Ohio - Obama by 14 (52 to 38 in Quinnipiac poll)
Indiana - Obama by 10 (51 to 41)
Pennsylvania - Obama by 11 (52 to 41 in Battleground poll)
Pennsylvania - Obama by 13 (53 to 40 in Quinnipiac poll)
Wisconsin - Obama by 13 (53 to 40)
Michigan - Obama by 22 (58 to 36)
Iowa - Obama by 13 (52 to 39)
Illinois - Obama by 29 (61 to 32)
Minnesota - Obama by 19 (57 to 38)
Florida - Obama by 5 (49 to 44)
12 days to go...
hockeyTom
Oct 23 2008, 09:31 AM
I was just reading some headlines talking about the battleground poll results. The only state I saw where McBush has got a lead in right now, is West Virginia. Otherwise people are voting early in massive numbers, and unfortunately the same problems we have had before with the voting process are popping up again.

I also read a story yesterday which was scary. Alot of pundits, myself included think that we are going to see and hear Ms. Hockeymom again down the road at some point. Maybe 2012, as she has made some comments recently in which it seems she is putting some distance between herself and McCain. I just have a hunch she will come around again, unfortunately, in 4 short years....
SFJohn
Oct 23 2008, 10:48 AM
Pollster.com a few minutes ago turned the state of Ohio from yellow (toss-up) to blue (Obama) on their electoral projections. No fewer than 5 polls have come out in the last 24 hours showing Obama up by double digits in the Buckeye state. I just heard one of the Fox News analysts say that if Obama wins Ohio by more than 5 points, he's also going to pull off states like North Dakota, West Virginia, Georgia and some of the others that may appear slightly leaning towards McSame right now. Even Fox is running scared at this point and there was a lot of infighting this morning there, blaming Palin and such. Lots of talk about her $150K wardrobe and how it basically killed their message. The movement towards Obama is swift right now.
I'm not sure Palin will be a national force in 2012. I think she has a better chance of being voted out of office in Alaska during the next governor's election.
mdterp01
Oct 23 2008, 01:00 PM
I was just reading the article on MSNBC showing these latest state polls. Wow is all I can say. I'm not sure I believe it but its great news to be Obama rather than McCain right now. Interestingly enough, I was watching Hannity and Combs last night (Yes, I do flip to it just to hear what the right is saying, although I turn after about 2 or 3 minutes because I'm not trying to end up with a concussion trying to jump through my tv in an attempt to crack Sean Hannity's skull) and Sean sensed a momentum switch for John McCain based on that AP poll that came out yesterday showing the race down to 1 point. So these are some interesting polls that are coming out. What I am reading about early voting is astonishing. Florida A&M University in Tallahassee had their students, led by the University President, march from campus to the polling location to cast their ballots. With 1/3 of the votes coming from early voting this year, I think Obama has got such a huge advantage. I heard that McCain is relying on people coming out on November 4th but will it be enough. Still...who knows if Bin Laden will pop up on Halloween the way he did 4 years ago. I'm just not going to get rid of this nervousness and anxiety until election night if and when I hear the words President Elect Barack Obama. In addition, I've read that all of these polls are likely undercounting many young registered voters because of them not calling cell phones. So the lead could be more.
As for Sister Sarah making a run in 2012...I don't know. The conservative base loves her but her negatives have really risen since the settling down of excitement after she was added to the ticket.
SFJohn
Oct 23 2008, 01:32 PM
CBS just reported that Palin's $150K shopping spree was actually significantly more than $150K and it also involved new duds and accessories for one Levi Johnston, Bristol's f*ck toy.
fantomas
Oct 23 2008, 02:26 PM
QUOTE(mdterp01 @ Oct 23 2008, 06:00 PM)

So these are some interesting polls that are coming out. What I am reading about early voting is astonishing. Florida A&M University in Tallahassee had their students, led by the University President, march from campus to the polling location to cast their ballots.
And right after the FAMU crew went to vote, a large contingent from Florida State also headed to the polls.
So far, so good, according to the
Orlando Sentinel:
QUOTE
The first returns from early voting Monday showed that 56percent of the 153,262 voters who cast ballots across the state were Democrats, compared with Republicans' 28percent. Independents and third-party voters made up the rest.
By comparison, on the first day of early voting in 2006, Democrats cast 45 percent of the ballots and Republicans 42percent.
Republicans, though, hold a 17-percentage-point edge in absentee-ballot requests.
Here's
another story, from Politico, about voting in Evansville, Indiana, another state that Obama is doing very well but which McCain has to win to be elected.
QUOTE
I squeaked in just before the 7pm deadline to find two very frustrated poll workers and a line of a couple dozen people, due to problems with the computerized voting system not accepting people's driver's licenses. It was taking about 7-10 minutes per person just to get the computer to accept them as valid and to print out their ballot, causing very long delays.
For me the most moving moment came when the family in front of me, comprising probably 4 generations of voters (including an 18 year old girl voting for her first time and a 90-something hunched-over grandmother), got their turn to vote. When the old woman left the voting booth she made it about halfway to the door before collapsing in a nearby chair, where she began weeping uncontrollably. When we rushed over to help we realized that she wasn't in trouble at all but she had not truly believed, until she left the booth, that she would ever live long enough to cast a vote for an African-American for president. Anyone who doesn't think that African-American turnout will absolutely SHATTER every existing record is in for a very rude surprise.
There were about 20 people in front of me but remarkably not a single person left the room without voting over the 2 hours it took to get through the line.
TheOtherFSU
Oct 23 2008, 02:47 PM
And today another wacky poll is out along with all the others showing serious movement towards Obama. Today's Investors Business Daily poll shows Obama with only a 1% lead nationally. Their sample, like the AP one yesterday, is way off. They're off by an *unbelievable* 102% (yes, 102%) on young voters as compared to today's Zogby poll and yesterday's ABC News poll. They show McCain leading by 52% among young voters under age 29 (McCain in front 74-22%). That is beyond ludicrous. Zogby this morning had Obama in front by 50% among voters 18-29, and ABC News (along with nearly every other poll for months) has shown Obama leading by 40 to 50% among young voters.
Nate Silver (538.com) again debunks this poll as an obvious outlier. Some people believe they simply reversed the numbers of young voters, meaning Obama is actually the one up 74-22 among young voters, and should be up by about 10% overall. But still, they released the poll with those bad numbers. I'm shocked that some pollsters are getting away with this. Silver is a big computer geek who knows all kinds of formulas, and he pegs the odds of this poll's accuracy at 55 billion-to-1.
More on the AP poll from yesterday: Ron Fournier is the AP's Washington Bureau Chief. He's the one responsible for their presidential polling. Google his name and you get all sorts of stories about how corrupt he is. Fournier is the reporter who infamously told Karl Rove in 2004 to "Keep up the good fight." He interviewed for a position with the John McCain for President campaign in 2006. He made it known that he felt he could better help the McCain campaign by continuing his work as DC Bureau Chief for AP rather than joining the campaign itself. There are a lot of people who believe he is being paid by the McCain camp for favorable stories. He oversaw the story of Obama's acceptance speech at the convention in Denver. The AP story that night said Obama didn't deliver a good speech and failed to list specific policies he'd work on as president. It also said his speech was typical jargon that bashed Bush and had no substance. Nothing could've been further from the truth. That was one of the great political speeches of all time and it was praised by all parts of the political spectrum, including the likes of Pat Buchanan who said it was magical. It's sad that an organization like the Associated Press is in bed with the Republicans.
mdterp01
Oct 23 2008, 02:49 PM
Wow fantomas...that story about the grandmother has my eyes watery. Ya know its amazing the history of people who are that old have witnessed. They have been through often times 2 world wars, the Great Depression, segregation, the Civil Rights Movement, the assassination of John F. Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King, man's first walk on the moon, Pearl Harbor, and they have seen technology go from basically nothing to what it is today. That is just a lifetime of so much history for many of these older persons and I'm sure that scene will be repeated across the country. I didn't think I'd be able to do this so young in my lifetime, but it goes to show that I did not recognize just how far we have come in terms of relations with each other. While there is still ways to go, its remarkable how far we've come in this short amount of time.
Joe in Philly
Oct 24 2008, 10:03 PM
The Palin jinx continues. She dropped the puck for the ceremonial faceoff at the Flyers season opener and the Flyers lost. Tonight she dropped the puck at the St. Louis Blues game, and the Blues have been shut out 4-0 by the L.A. Kings.

(Sadly, there didn't seem to be as many boos in St. Louis as in Philadelphia.)
Joe in Philly
Oct 25 2008, 01:57 PM
...and it's even worse: Palin's presence caused
a goalie's injury!!!!
canmark
Oct 25 2008, 03:34 PM
But who was she wearing? Found this
pic and this
pic. She seems to have worn a sharp-looking black coat over... jeans. Kind of a mixed message. Two daughters wore Blues jersies, and the First Dude seems to have some kind of fleece jacket.
Chill-Trick
Oct 25 2008, 05:17 PM
We need to start a pool...what's the over under of when some "joe sixpack" or hustler comes forward with proof he had sex with Todd Palin?
kick
Oct 25 2008, 05:34 PM
I don't think that over/under is fair for Alaska. The ratio of men to women is so rididulous that even thestraightest men would look for a manhole at least once in their lives.
Are there hustlers in Alaska? LOL
J eddie
Oct 25 2008, 07:15 PM
QUOTE(kick @ Oct 25 2008, 06:34 PM)

I don't think that over/under is fair for Alaska. The ratio of men to women is so rididulous that even thestraightest men would look for a manhole at least once in their lives.
Are there hustlers in Alaska? LOL
They probably have sex with the caribou.
climber30
Oct 25 2008, 11:33 PM
I'm definitely moving to Alaska then...<grin>
canmark
Oct 26 2008, 09:29 AM
Anchorage Daily News
supports Obama. "Palin's rise captivates us but nation needs a steady hand"
swiminbuff
Oct 26 2008, 09:55 AM
I'm loving these reports of a rift in the campaign between McCain and Diva Rogue Palin. Looks like a lot of knives will be flying around the room on November 5th.
sportinlife
Oct 26 2008, 03:19 PM
QUOTE(canmark @ Oct 26 2008, 10:29 AM)

Anchorage Daily News
supports Obama. "Palin's rise captivates us but nation needs a steady hand"
I think they are being a little too kind to Governor Sarah Palin only because they know they have to sell papers to a lot of people who love her.
jaragonus
Oct 27 2008, 01:19 PM
Now that Larry Flynt is doing a Sarah Palin porn spoof-Alasaka's First Dude deserves his own movie. Todd Palin would be perfect subject for a Joe Gage movie...
HornFan
Oct 27 2008, 10:57 PM
Could one of the pressers please ask Gov. Palin if she's voting for Senator Ted Stevens after being found guilty on all 7 counts?
swiminbuff
Oct 28 2008, 04:17 PM
So, if Stevens is re-elected and then forced to resign I bet Governor Palin then appoints herself to fill his Senate seat. Having had a taste of the limelight I don't see her giving up the chance to play on the national stage. As for the First Dude and the kids, they can always hire a nanny to stay in Wasilla.
hockeyTom
Oct 28 2008, 04:45 PM
Speaking of Miz Palin. Yesterday some McBush advisor called her a " diva." Today in the McBush camp, somebody said she was a "wack-job."
swiminbuff
Oct 28 2008, 05:03 PM
QUOTE(hockeyTom @ Oct 28 2008, 05:45 PM)

Speaking of Miz Palin. Yesterday some McBush advisor called her a " diva." Today in the McBush camp, somebody said she was a "wack-job."
Yeah, but the base still love her and think that hse is the future of the GOP
hockeyTom
Oct 28 2008, 07:58 PM
What does that tell you about the base?
SFJohn
Oct 29 2008, 10:27 AM
I heard Palin talking the other day to the people of Iowa. She was spewing all this crap about how Obama wants to spread the wealth and how that's the most horrible thing she's ever heard. She was saying, "And Barack wants to take your money and then have the government distribute it to someone else!" And of course the crowd booed very loudly for a long time.
But these are the same people who will be waiting for the federal government to declare a disaster area and provide federal funds to rebuild following the next tornado that wipes out a small town. It makes me sick.
hockeyTom
Oct 29 2008, 11:37 AM
Shes bad enough, but McCain is worse. He referred to Obama yesterday as " the great redistributionist". Did anyone catch McCain on "Meet the Press" last Sunday? He was asked among other questions to comment on when just a couple of years ago, he said he was against the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy, because they were " disproportionally for the wealthy". He had a great big shit eating grin on his face, didn't really explain his change or should I say FLIP FLOP!!. Desparate people do and say desparate things.
mdterp01
Oct 29 2008, 11:50 AM
I have to say that I have an issue with that West Hollywood Halloween display that shows Sarah Palin hanging by a noose. If this were an effigy of Barack Obama there would've been far more coverage and outrage than seems to be being covered by MSM. I do not agree one iota with that woman's policies or direction for the future of this country, but that goes too far. Any image of anyone hanging from a noose in this country, given the history of lynchings is just unacceptable. I cringed when I saw that.
boomer400
Oct 29 2008, 11:55 AM
Anyone else laugh involuntarily upon hearing that Sarah Palin planned to make a "policy speech" today?
SFJohn
Oct 29 2008, 12:24 PM
QUOTE(mdterp01 @ Oct 29 2008, 09:50 AM)

I have to say that I have an issue with that West Hollywood Halloween display that shows Sarah Palin hanging by a noose. If this were an effigy of Barack Obama there would've been far more coverage and outrage than seems to be being covered by MSM. I do not agree one iota with that woman's policies or direction for the future of this country, but that goes too far. Any image of anyone hanging from a noose in this country, given the history of lynchings is just unacceptable. I cringed when I saw that.
I think the noose goes too far. Perhaps a better prank would have been showing her having to pay for her own rape kit.

But I disagree that the Obama hanging in effigy would've drawn far more coverage and outrage. Last week on the campus of Western Carolina University, a dead bear was found with Obama signs all over the body. That got almost exactly the same amount of news coverage as this Palin WeHo incident. And last month at George Fox University in Oregon, an Obama lifesize cutout was hung in effigy and got very little coverage nationwide, much less in fact than the WeHo Palin thing. When racist Ohioan Mike Lunsford hung an Obama effigy from a noose in the tree in his front yard recently, it was barely covered by anyone. The sad truth is this... there are numerous Obamas being hung in effigy around the nation and the coverage is almost non-existent and we aren't hearing about it. The Palin thing is getting major play. When your crowds are yelling, "Kill him," and "Terrorist!," you should expect some hatred in return. It's not right on either side and I don't condone it at all, but it's happening way more from the Republicans.
HornFan
Oct 29 2008, 01:09 PM
The hanging Palin display is reprehensible, no doubt about it. Disgusting. It was covered in the MSM (at least the ones I've seen including CNN) adequately in my opinion (even the View showed pics). There comes a point where too much attention just rewards the bad behavior. I would have thought more coveage if it had been Obama because of the past history of our country lynching black men, but I didn't hear about some of those incidents. We don't have a history of hanging white women outside of the justice system. Perhaps a witch burning scene featuring Palin ala Salem would have brought more coverage? Death and candidates is a bad combo no matter the circumstances.
mdterp01
Oct 29 2008, 01:32 PM
QUOTE(SFJohn @ Oct 29 2008, 12:24 PM)

I think the noose goes too far. Perhaps a better prank would have been showing her having to pay for her own rape kit.

But I disagree that the Obama hanging in effigy would've drawn far more coverage and outrage. Last week on the campus of Western Carolina University, a dead bear was found with Obama signs all over the body. That got almost exactly the same amount of news coverage as this Palin WeHo incident. And last month at George Fox University in Oregon, an Obama lifesize cutout was hung in effigy and got very little coverage nationwide, much less in fact than the WeHo Palin thing. When racist Ohioan Mike Lunsford hung an Obama effigy from a noose in the tree in his front yard recently, it was barely covered by anyone. The sad truth is this... there are numerous Obamas being hung in effigy around the nation and the coverage is almost non-existent and we aren't hearing about it. The Palin thing is getting major play. When your crowds are yelling, "Kill him," and "Terrorist!," you should expect some hatred in return. It's not right on either side and I don't condone it at all, but it's happening way more from the Republicans.
Wow SF...I hadn't heard about all of those incidents. I had heard about a couple previous ones that happened several weeks ago, but I didn't hear anything about the West Carolina Univ incident, the Oregon incident, or the Lunsford incident. Its disturbing all the way around.
hockeyTom
Oct 29 2008, 02:16 PM
MSNBC has a story about yet another Obama effigy found hanging from a tree at the University of Kentucky. Disgusting.
Chill-Trick
Oct 29 2008, 02:24 PM
Just goes to further prove the point of McCain supporters being ignorant and intolerant.
HornFan
Oct 29 2008, 02:37 PM
Which is why I wish the Obama "supporters" in West Hollywood hadn't shown their asses. I just saw a live shot on CNN because there are protesters holding sheets up to block the view of that dispicable display of Palin. Just take that crap down.
Munson Man
Oct 29 2008, 02:39 PM
QUOTE(Chill-Trick @ Oct 29 2008, 03:24 PM)

Just goes to further prove the point of McCain supporters being ignorant and intolerant.
Ugh. Comments deleted. Some folks are't worth the effort. Time to re-learn use of the "Ignore" button.
Chill-Trick
Oct 29 2008, 03:08 PM
Guess I know where I stand then. I have a certain political view BASED ON FACTS, and you don't consider me worth your time because they differ from yours?
alrighty then.
mdterp01
Oct 29 2008, 04:20 PM
QUOTE(hockeyTom @ Oct 29 2008, 02:16 PM)

MSNBC has a story about yet another Obama effigy found hanging from a tree at the University of Kentucky. Disgusting.
Definitely disgusting. This stuff is really getting ridiculous.
TheOtherFSU
Oct 29 2008, 04:21 PM
Oh my God, that idiot Joe the Plumber is not only running for Congress in 2010, but he announced today that he's going to "keep fighting for the middle class," and has been signed to a book deal and his book will be released "in a few weeks."
What a joke.
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