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hockeyTom
Other names being tossed around include John Kerry, Colin Powell, and Gov. Bill Richardson. Any of these IMO, would be excellent.
Tennis Guy
QUOTE(hockeyTom @ Nov 14 2008, 09:56 AM) *

Other names being tossed around include John Kerry, Colin Powell, and Gov. Bill Richardson. Any of these IMO, would be excellent.


Colin Powell and possibly Richardson, yes. Kerry or Hillary? Uh, no.

shep71
I've thought all along that Clinton would be up for this. There was some type of arrangment made back when she threw support his way. That's what she was holding out for. I think she would do an effective job as Sec. of State.

All this talk of her for the Supreme Court is absurd too. Even with a democratic majority, I find it hard to beleive that she would be confirmed. She's far too polarizing a figure.
Munson Man
I haven't heard Powell's name mentioned anywhere. I think that's wishful thinking on someone's part. The four names I've heard are Clinton, Kerry, Richardson (easily the most qualified), with Tom Daschle as a possible compromise candidate. I feel like Clinton is perhaps the front runner - why else would the Obama campaign even float her name after making it publicly clear they did not even consider her for VP? Frankly, I don't understand it - I don't see her as any more or less qualified than a dozen other Democrats, but she carries a lot of baggage others don't. The argument that "she's met so many world leaders" is as laughably absurd as Sarah Palin's "Russia is next door to Alaska" nonsense.

I remember Katty Kay reporting last summer that the Obama folks had reached a deal with Hillary and NY Governor David Patterson that Hillary would be appointed to the Cabinet, and Patterson would appoint Caroline Kennedy to her Senate seat as a reward for Kennedy's early, key endorsement of Obama. The thinking, though, was that Hillary would get the Attorney General position. Sounds like she may have held out for an even better deal.

Lastly, what a kick in the balls to Bill Richardson. He's arguably the most qualified candidate, as he has been a diplomat at the UN, and actually nogotiated substantive issues with North Korea and China, and very publicly broke his connection with the Clintons by also supporting Obama. My guess is Hillary would take the job just to repay him for what she sees as an act of treachery.
theodoresdaddy
QUOTE(Munson Man @ Nov 14 2008, 08:18 AM) *

I haven't heard Powell's name mentioned anywhere. I think that's wishful thinking on someone's part. The four names I've heard are Clinton, Kerry, Richardson (easily the most qualified), with Tom Daschle as a possible compromise candidate. I feel like Clinton is perhaps the front runner - why else would the Obama campaign even float her name after making it publicly clear they did not even consider her for VP? Frankly, I don't understand it - I don't see her as any more or less qualified than a dozen other Democrats, but she carries a lot of baggage others don't. The argument that "she's met so many world leaders" is as laughably absurd as Sarah Palin's "Russia is next door to Alaska" nonsense.

I remember Katty Kay reporting last summer that the Obama folks had reached a deal with Hillary and NY Governor David Patterson that Hillary would be appointed to the Cabinet, and Patterson would appoint Caroline Kennedy to her Senate seat as a reward for Kennedy's early, key endorsement of Obama. The thinking, though, was that Hillary would get the Attorney General position. Sounds like she may have held out for an even better deal.

Lastly, what a kick in the balls to Bill Richardson. He's arguably the most qualified candidate, as he has been a diplomat at the UN, and actually nogotiated substantive issues with North Korea and China, and very publicly broke his connection with the Clintons by also supporting Obama. My guess is Hillary would take the job just to repay him for what she sees as an act of treachery.



what he just said

can anyone imagine hill playing second fiddle to anyone? I can't imagine her being selected as SOS; she's going to be Obama's first Supreme Court nominee and she'll said through the approval process pissing every last right winger off to no end
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kick
QUOTE(theodoresdaddy @ Nov 15 2008, 01:22 AM) *

what he just said

can anyone imagine hill playing second fiddle to anyone? I can't imagine her being selected as SOS; she's going to be Obama's first Supreme Court nominee and she'll said through the approval process pissing every last right winger off to no end
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I was thinking Hilary for SCOTUS as well, but in an article I read they mentioned that this would be less an opportunity because of her age- at 61- that she would have significantly less years potentially on the bench compared with someone 15 or so years younger. Obama may want to have someone on the bench that he knows is going to be there for some time- especially with Bush's 2 nominees potentially being there for quite some time. I would think AG before SCOTUS for Hillary, but I think she would rather stay in the Senate before being AG.

I am thinking Jennifer Granholm or Janet Napolitano though for Attorney General.
hockeyTom
According to reports, Obama offered the position to Hillary on Thursday, so will have to see what develops.
mdterp01
I would much rather see Colin Powell as Secretary of Education. I don't think that man wants any parts of military type leadership. I was hoping that Richardson would get the Secretary of State post. Richardson was critical in Latino support I believe (and helped deliver New Mexico for Barack), in addition to the fact that he threw his support behind Barack long before Barack had secured the nomination. I think Hillary is a good choice, but I would put Richardson before Hillary on who I would like to see be SOS.
jay original
I would much rather see Hillary stay in the Senate and work to get health care passed because it is her baby and she was thrown to the wolves during Bill's administration over the issue.

My vote of Secretary of State would be Bill Richardson, he's has the experience and it'd be nice to see a qualified Latino in a top post unlike our former Attorney General. rolleyes.gif

I always thought that the Richardson endorsement and James Carville calling him "Judas" etc. came about because of a similar deal which for me was always Sec of State since he doesn't seem as qualified for Supreme Court.
Joe in Philly
The more seniority you get, the more you can get done in the Senate. Hillary should stay in the Senate and gain that seniority. I think if she's a pick for a Supreme Court vacancy, the confirmation hearings could get nasty.
fantomas
People, come on. COLIN POWELL??? The man who actively assisted George W. Bush and Dick Cheney in duping the Congress and country into the ongoing Iraq War? Please! He shouldn't be anywhere near any senior post in the Obama administration. There's magnimity and foregiveness and all, but Powell doesn't deserve anything. His support of Obama was expiation on his behalf, but we're still in Iraq and soldiers and Iraqis are still dying. He could have openly challenged Bush back in 2002 or 2003, but stayed silent and in office till the end of Bush's first term. Keep him FAR away from the new administration.

Richardson really ought to be the leading candidate for Secretary of State. I'm not sure what's in it for Hillary, but she still has to deal with her husband Bill Clinton's various ties and issues. Any way things go, she's never going to get the post she wanted, so would she be content in this job? Would Obama essentially give her free reign/rein? I doubt it. Could she deal with that? I don't know.

QUOTE(kick @ Nov 15 2008, 01:56 AM) *

I was thinking Hilary for SCOTUS as well, but in an article I read they mentioned that this would be less an opportunity because of her age- at 61- that she would have significantly less years potentially on the bench compared with someone 15 or so years younger. Obama may want to have someone on the bench that he knows is going to be there for some time- especially with Bush's 2 nominees potentially being there for quite some time. I would think AG before SCOTUS for Hillary, but I think she would rather stay in the Senate before being AG.


Obama's first two picks for the Supreme Court should be Elena Kagan and Harold Hongju Koh. They are both under 60, brilliant and progressive.
aquaman
I think Hillary as Secretary of State is a good choice for a number of reasons.

First, by moving Hillary out of the senate, Obama removes a major threat to his legislative initiatives AND he ties Hillary's future ambitions to his own success. If Hillary stayed in the Senate, she could be a thorn in Obama's side for years. This also benefits HIllary as it gives her a high profile launching pad for her own future presidential ambitions AND she avoids having to cast controversial votes in the Senate over the next 8 years, allowing her to lock in her current reputation as an aisle-crosser and diligent worker.

Second, Hillary and the Clinton brand still have a lot of international goodwill. I think she could make a very appealing public face for the US overseas.

Third, I think nominating Hillary gives Obama carte blanche in pursuing Larence Summers as Treasury Secretary. The greatest opposition to Summers would be from feminists, who very well could be placated by having their chosen one (Hillary) in an equally important position.
hockeyTom
Did anybody else read David Broders comments this morning? He thinks Hill is definitely qualified for the job, but he didn't think Obama should pick her for Secretary of State. Meanwhile breaking news on another Cabinet post. Dem. sources are saying the HHS position looks like it will go to Tom Daschle.......
Munson Man
QUOTE(aquaman @ Nov 17 2008, 08:05 PM) *

I think Hillary as Secretary of State is a good choice for a number of reasons.


And just think of the energy savings - when Hillary flies to some far-off land to discuss international issues, Bill can fly on the same jet and hit the same people up for donations to his private foundation, thus saving the oil he'd waste on a private jet! It warms the heart.......
Bill W
Don't Hire Hillary


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Appointing Senator Clinton is a bad idea. If the President-elect is truly for change he needs someone who supports that and so far Clinton has held true to business as usual.

Clinton is a member of the establishment. She has transformed herself into one of the best politicians in recent memory. The result was a very formidable bid for the Presidency, but let's face it: she did not win. America elected Obama and change.

The repeated debates between these two candidates clearly showed one area where she and Obama differed tremendously. That area is foreign policy.

She supported the Iraq war, he is against it. Clinton was unapologetic about voting for the war despite pleas from her own constituency to admit it was a mistake. Alternatively, she took a hard stance and further disagreed with Obama's idea of withdrawal.

Under no circumstances does Clinton want to speak with Iran. Obama, on the other hand, stated that he felt speaking to Iran was a requirement for getting them past their nuclear weapons ambitions. Her policy ironically is to use ours on them if they did not submit to US demands.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/patricia-deg...y_b_145250.html


Of course, Obama is not going to -- and cannot -- make a sea-change in Washington. Only the naive thought he would. Take off your blinders and be prepared to protest...

(I can't even be happy over losing such a lousy senator.)
TRL
OK, so Hillary accepted? It's a done deal?

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Bill W
so the NY Times is reporting.

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