QUOTE(Bill W @ Dec 15 2008, 04:14 PM)

The man is a MASS MURDERER -- even a worse one than most US presidents -- and I'll stop before I say what he deserves.
The NY Times site currently states,"An Iraqi journalist who hurled his shoes at President Bush and called him a dog became a huge celebrity in the Arab world and beyond on Monday, with many supporters exalting him for what they called a courageous act in the face of American arrogance about the war...."
By your reckoning, FDR, HST, and Bill Clinton, even, were "Mass Murderers," responsible for the mass aerial bombing of German and Japanese cities during WWII, the atomic bombs detonated over Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and the bombings in the Balkans, Somalia and other places in the nineties. There has been a rigorous and lively debate whether all these were acts of necessity or acts of revenge. Do the acts of these presidents, including GWB, rise to the level of the acts committed by, or in the name of, the Ottoman sultan, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Bokassa, Pinochet, various Argentine juntas, the Duvaliers, Milosevic, the Hutu, Mugabe, Al Qaeda, the "Great and Dear Leaders," Laskar-e-Toiba, and, dare I say, Saddam Hussein? No. The American government is responsible for prosecuting a war with very little evidence for its justification that has resulted in the deaths of thousands, further immediate destabilization of a region already fragile, the stretching of military personnel and resources, and further erosion of American standing in the world. In the run-up to this war, many elected and appointed officials of all political stripes, the print, radio, and television media, the blogosphere, and the American people accepted what was presented to them by this Administration and Congress as fact. That, sir, is criminal.
QUOTE(PennState4Ever @ Dec 16 2008, 09:38 AM)

Dude, I'm talking about Sadrists...in Sadr City. Not exactly a reserved bunch. And also not representative of the average Iraqi. But hey, what would I know?
PennState4Ever, is there a disconnect between what is reported in the American press and what you experience on a daily basis? For example, on the Front Page of today's "NY Times" there is an article about how this journalist has become a hero in the Arab world, but on closer examination, the quotes of those who are hailing him as such include Sunnis and one with ties to Hezbollah, not exactly unbiased viewpoints. The head of an umbrella governing body in Anbar province condemned the attack.