canmark
Jul 19 2009, 03:58 PM
The Star's Richard Griffin does a good job of summing up Ricciardi's Blue Jays in answering the mail bag:
QUOTE
Q: Hi Richard, I have just one question: Whatever the hell happened to “we're one year away”??!!
A: The worst thing that happened to the Jays in the J.P. Ricciardi years is the mirage of 86 wins in 2003, his second season at the helm. It was good for the fans but promised too much, too soon. All of a sudden, that blip of a season changed his thought process and made him and the organization believe “the future is now”. It made him look like a genius for installing Carlos Tosca as manager and for competing with the big boys on a budget after just two seasons. “Just a couple of more pieces and we can win it all,” was the mantra. Instead of patience and building through the farm, they went for it and won a mere 67 games in 2004. Back to square one. Don’t forget, in ’03, Halladay won 22 games and the Cy Young, while Carlos Delgado and Vernon Wells made like Ruth and Gehrig with a combined 75 home runs and 262 RBIs. Don’t forget Josh Towers at 8-1. After the smoke of ’03 cleared and the mirrors fogged up, the first “one-year plan” became a long-term rebuilding with John Gibbons at the wheel. There was an original plan to win by 2006, don’t let anyone try and rewrite history. We know, after that, there was a plan to win in 2008, but now they’re just so two-thousand-and-late. Then A.J. left and injuries happened and Doc is on his way out the door, so there’s no longer any plan at all.
Meanwhile, Roy Halladay pitches a gem, a
complete game 3-1 victory at home over the Red Sox.
Interesting stat from ESPN.com: No pitcher has a better winning percentage during day games than the Blue Jays' Roy Halladay.
Pitcher Win Pct. Record
Roy Halladay .727 56-21
Pedro Martinez .718 74-29
Whitey Ford .713 57-23
Ron Guidry .711 54-22
Randy Johnson .708 92-38
Travelpat
Jul 21 2009, 07:45 PM
All kinds of trade rumours continue for Halladay. If he is not traded by this Friday - I will be at what will quite possibly be his last home start as a Blue Jay against the Rays as that will be his last home start before the July 31 trade deadline. A friend who has a private box that night has invited 15 of us to join him. I'm sure it will be one of the few times that one of the corporate boxes at the Rogers Centre has hosted 16 gay guys at once. lol
I heard something like 12 teams had scouts or other management personnel at the last start for Halladay.
Updated - This story just appeared on the Toronto Star website saying a Halladay trade is now unlikely according to Ricciardi.
http://www.thestar.com/sports/baseball/article/669660
Joe in Philly
Jul 22 2009, 04:28 PM
He can say that for public consumption but if a team makes a suitable offer, even if it's on July 30th, and if Halladay is willing to go, Ricciardi will make the deal.
canmark
Jul 23 2009, 05:48 AM
C'mon Phillies (and Dodgers)... why are you not dangling your top prospects in exchange for Roy Halladay?! Dingle, dangle!
SCTrojan
Jul 23 2009, 09:43 AM
LOL! Enjoy.
QUOTE
As for Jolie, you probably wouldn't expect her to be trade bait. To be honest, we've had our fill of her, that exquisite face and all that humanitarian work. Yacks left, bats right. If she wants the Nobel Prize, why doesn't she just say so? In the meantime, she makes women here feel inferior and our men seem not quite up to the task, so please take her off our hands.
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OK, how about we throw in that Beckham fella too, whose act is getting a little stale. He's not even the best player on the Galaxy, so how much do we really care? The guy may be considered great looking in other parts of the world, but out here he's just another wanna-be wiping down tables. Take him, he's yours (we'll keep that Posh, though; she completes us).
QUOTE
To sweeten any deal, we're willing to pony up Santa Anita Race Track, the old Pickford estate, and the young hurler out of Hollywood, Lindsay Lohan. Sensational kid, good energy. Just keep her away from the Gatorade.
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All I know is the Dodgers need some pitching and we mean business. We've got Emmys. We've got Oscars. If it's leadership you're looking for, we'll offer up our governor, whose steroid issues are mostly behind him.
As a gesture of good faith, we'd like to throw in 12 copies of our new treatise, "How to Argue With Umpires in Three Languages at Once (It Really Messes With Their Heads)."
QUOTE
We might also work out a trade with AC Milan for a goalkeeper and 17 yards of top-grade Italian silk.
That poor Jamie McCourt has to wear something.
Joe in Philly
Jul 23 2009, 06:08 PM
QUOTE(canmark @ Jul 23 2009, 06:48 AM)

C'mon Phillies (and Dodgers)... why are you not dangling your top prospects in exchange for Roy Halladay?! Dingle, dangle!

Halladay apparently says he will become a free agent after 2010. If he's not willing to work out an extension, guaranteeing a team will get to keep him for more than a year-plus, that to me will drive down the price. Bargain bin!
canmark
Jul 23 2009, 06:40 PM
Hey, how much is a World Series worth to you? Bid high!
Roy is 11-3 with a 2.73 ERA this season on a team that is below .500.
He has a career 143-69 record(!).
He doesn't know a lot, but even George W. Bush
knows that Halladay is the best pitcher in baseball, someone you can build your team around.
QUOTE
Mr. President, you're a Major League Baseball team owner again. Everyone is a free agent. You have a Yankees-like wallet. Who is your first position player? Who's your pitcher?" asked Allen.
Without hesitation, the former part-owner of the Texas Rangers chose Philadelphia Phillies second baseman Chase Utley and Jays ace Halladay.
"Roy Halladay from the Toronto Blue Jays is a great pitcher," Bush said. "He's a steady guy, he burns up innings."
Joe in Philly
Jul 23 2009, 06:57 PM
Arizona's Dan Haren hasn't pitched fewer than 6 innings all year. He's allowed more than 3 runs only once (when he gave up 4 homers in, of all places, Oakland), and since then he's had 10 starts in a row with 7-plus innings allowing 2 runs or less in each. Plus he's signed through 2012 with a team option for 2013. If Arizona is willing to part with him and the price is right I'd VERY seriously consider him instead of Halladay.
canmark
Jul 24 2009, 05:40 AM
Dan Haren's career numbers (3 teams in 7 years): 75-57, 3.52 ERA, 9 complete games and 2 shutouts. Most wins in a season (16). Number of 20 win seasons (0). Most losses in a season (13)
Roya Halladay's career numbers (1 team in 12 years): 142-69, 3.46 ERA, 44 complete games and 12 shutouts. Most wins in a season (22). Number of 20 win seasons (2). Most losses in a season (11).
Joe in Philly
Jul 24 2009, 02:21 PM
That could mean Haren's got more of an upside.

Even after he gave up 4 runs in 5 innings to the Pirates yesterday.

Definitely means he's younger. His contract status makes him cheaper. He wouldn't have to adjust to NL pitching because he's already in the league.
Joe in Philly
Jul 24 2009, 07:40 PM
Philly.com: Jays want Drabek, Happ, Brown for Halladay
Without a contract extension, I tend to think that's too high an asking price.
canmark
Jul 25 2009, 08:37 AM
I don't know anything about those guys, but 3 prospects sounds reasonable. If Kyle Drabek is anything like his father Doug, I'm interested.
In what could be his last start as a Jay, Roy Halladay goes 9 innings and leaves with a tie. He's now tied with Randy Johnson for the most 9 (or more) inning starts since 1998 with 44. Halladay's line:
9.0 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 3 BB, 10 K
Halladay lowers his ERA to 2.62, 4th best in the AL. He's also 4th in innings pitched (despite missing a couple of starts) and 5th in strikeouts.
Joe in Philly
Jul 25 2009, 02:00 PM
Apparently the Phils agree with me, at least according to
ESPN's Jayson Stark.
I had the sports-talk radio station on earlier. According to the hosts Halladay last night denied saying he wouldn't sign an extension, as Ricciardi had stated, and that ownership has essentially put Ricciardi under a gag order until the whole thing is over with.
canmark
Jul 25 2009, 06:20 PM
Ricciardi was trying to put the blame for a trade not going down on Halladay. Halladay never asked for a trade. Ricciardi was the one to announce that the Jays were entertaining offers. He does this just prior to the All Star Game, putting Halladay on the spot. Rather than being praised as the starting pitcher, he's grilled about whether he thinks he'll be traded or not. Then Ricciardi says he doesn't think a deal will go down, perhaps because few teams showed legit interest. I think the Red Sox and Yankees realize that it would be PR suicide for the Jays to trade their best player to their divisional rivals, so they didn't bother offering. But with only the Phillies and Dodgers showing serious interest, Ricciardi was unable to set up a bidding war. Then Ricciardi says that Halladay forced his hand, saying that he would test free agency... implying that he wouldn't sign an extension wit a team that acquires him (thus lessening Halladay's value). Halladay has denied this. He told the Jays that he was not going to *now* sign an extension with the Jays, but wanted to wait and see how the team was doing in 2010. But Ricciardi is trying to make Roy, one of the most upstanding players in team history, into some kind of villain. But this is Ricciardi's M.O. He tried to make Carlos Delgado a villain before he ran him out of town. Now he's trying to make Roy a villain while he's trying to shop him around. The guy is not only incompetent, he's a low life sleeze.
Joe in Philly
Jul 27 2009, 08:05 PM
Doesn't seem like any fans are falling for Ricciardi's painting of Halladay as a villain. That's good. Maybe it'll get him fired sooner.
Travelpat
Jul 28 2009, 10:35 AM
There is no way Ricciardi will succeed in convincing Jays fans that Halladay is the bad guy in this sad story. He is probably one of the most loved players in franchise history.
I was at the game on Friday night and what the fans on TV did not see - was that not only did the crowd give Halladay loud standing ovations as he came off the mound after the top of the 8th and 9th innings - but in the 9th that standing ovation just kept getting louder and louder right through until the first pitch of the bottom of the inning with a few fans near us even wiping away some tears.
Joe in Philly
Jul 29 2009, 02:54 PM
Looks like the Phils have told the Jays to do something that Dick Cheney once told Sen. Leahy.

They've reportedly agreed to a trade for
Cleveland's Cy Young winner Cliff Lee and outfielder Ben Francisco. The Phils are giving up 4 players, none of whom are the players the Jays were asking for (Happ, Drabek, Brown). What happens to Halladay now?
phillyrunner
Jul 29 2009, 04:57 PM
This is great news, the Phillies gave up a lot less to get Lee and got a bat off the bench to boot. I wonder if JP will now be more desperate and trade Halladay to one of the remaining interested teams for less than he wants.
canmark
Jul 29 2009, 08:00 PM
From what I'm reading, no. It now seems highly unlikely that the Jays will trade Halladay (who lost to the Mariners today in a 3-2 game where the Jays could muster only 3 hits). I really feel bad for the guy. The chance at being traded to a division leading team (Phillies, Dodgers, Angels...), play meaningful games, be in the spotlight, likely pitch in the post season... and now he may be stuck pitching for the Jays (now 4 games under .500 and 13 games out of first) for the rest of the season... and maybe even next season (some have suggested that the Jays will hold Halladay to his contract and not move him at all). A dismal prospect for a guy who signed the 3-year extension because (a) he was loyal, and (b ) he was promised that the team would contend.
Joe in Philly
Jul 31 2009, 04:26 PM
Two more starters got traded, but not Halladay. It seems to me like the Jays are going to get less than they think if and when they finally do trade him.
canmark
Jul 31 2009, 10:11 PM
Halladay stays, but Rolen goes.
Jays send Scott Rolen (.320, 8hr, 43 rbi in 338 ABs) plus Rolen's 2009 salary to the Reds for Edwin Encarnacion (.209, 5hr, 16 rbi in 139 ABs) and pitchers Zach Stewart and Josh Roenicke. Apparently Rolen asked to be traded and the Jays accommodated him.
So there you go. After his big announcement about entertaining offers for Halladay, J.P. fails to move him while other name starters (Lee, Peavy, Washburn) are moved.
Joe in Philly
Jul 31 2009, 10:16 PM
QUOTE(canmark @ Jul 31 2009, 11:11 PM)

Apparently Rolen asked to be traded and the Jays accommodated him.
Really? Wow, so he's three for three!
Travelpat
Aug 1 2009, 12:38 AM
The Jays are at the Expos tipping point. Either Rogers has got to spend some money to try to contend in the very tough AL East - or the slow decline in interest in the Jays will continue just as it did for the Expos.
You can't tell me that a team in this big market - with almost all their games televised to a fan base all across Canada - can't somehow be generating enough revenue to be spending more money. To me it was a real reminder of just how popular the Jays are - or can be if they were actually competitive- all across Canada when watching the games from Seattle earlier this week. Of 26,000 fans there the one night I think it is safe to say that at least half of them were obviously down from BC and cheering on the Jays. Sometimes Jays games in Minny likewise have thousands of Jays fans who drive down from Winnipeg.
You can't tell me there is not some way for a team with that kind of national appeal to be able to generate revenues to support them being able to spend at least a little more on their payroll - so as at least to have a chance against the huge $$$ Yankees and Red Sox.
canmark
Aug 8 2009, 01:11 PM
The Toronto Blue Jays have brought back members of the 1992 and 1993 World Series teams (
video here), for Alumni celebrations this weekend. The players include Joe Carter, Roberto Alomar, Devon White, John Olerud, Kelly Gruber, Dave Winfield, Paul Molitor, Jack Morris, Pat Hentgen, Todd Stottlemyre, Dave Stieb, Tom Henke, Duane Ward, Candy Maldonado, Alfredo Griffin, David Cone, Tony Fernandez, Pat Tabler, Rance Mulliniks, Woody Williams, Dave Stewart, Jimmy Key, Pat Borders, and more.
Edit to add: found this
YouTube video of the 92-93 players being introduced on field.
canmark
Aug 10 2009, 10:08 PM
The Chicago White Sox picked up Alex Rios off waivers thereby saving the Jays $61 million as part of the 7-year contract he signed with the Jays in 2008. Of course, this was a deal that J.P. Ricciardi signed, and now Rios leaves and we get nothing in return. This, of course, is plus since we're not paying the other team to take a player off our hand--such as with Scott Rolen, a former All Star and Gold Glove who was hitting .320, yet somehow we had to pay Cincinatti to take him off our hands. And it's better than the B.J. Ryan deal, where we've released him outright but still how him $15 million.
Rios was a frustrating character. A five-tool player, he showed promise, but never realized it (like the Raptors' Joey Graham). His "breakout" season was in 2007, where he hit .297, 24 hr, 85 rbi. That was what earned him the big contract. Yet are those numbers all that great? 85 rbi in 643 at bats? At least Vernon Wells (who has an even more untradeable contract), had some seriously big years: 215 hits, 33 hr, 117 rbi and .317 batting avg. in 2003. But since signing his big deal he's been a dud: 80 and 78 rbi in '07 and '08, and only 47 rbi this season. His former Gold Glove defense has also declined. Would that some team would claim him off waivers.
Bill W
Aug 11 2009, 07:33 AM
"Five tools" and triple crown stats -- not to be trusted, ever.
Joe in Philly
Aug 11 2009, 02:50 PM
I would assume that the only way Wells will be traded is if the Jays agreed to pick up a chunk of his salary, or if a team is really desperate. The fact that the White Sox took Rios, thus taking that salary off the Jays' books, is a break for Toronto.
canmark
Sep 3 2009, 05:26 AM
Finally, J.P. Ricciardi
taking some blame for the Jays' miserable season (59-73).
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"I take full responsibility for what's going on," Ricciardi said last night as the Jays wrapped up a four-game series against the Rangers.
"The team's not playing well. Obviously we're not happy with that, but someone has to be held accountable and I accept that responsibility."
canmark
Sep 4 2009, 09:02 PM
Roy Halladay is back. After a few shaky starts, he turns in a gem tonight: complete game one-hit shutout over the Yankees.
canmark
Sep 9 2009, 09:31 PM
With Roy Halladay on the mound tonight the Jays drew the
smallest crowd in Rogers Centre/SkyDome history.
QUOTE
The Toronto Blue Jays hit a new low Wednesday night, and for a change it didn't come on the field.
Only 11,159 fans came out to watch Canadian slugger Justin Morneau homer off Roy Halladay in the eighth inning of a 4-1 Minnesota Twins victory, the smallest crowd in the history of Rogers Centre. The previous low of 12,571 came on April 30, 2002 versus Texas, when the building was still known as SkyDome.
The sparse gathering underlines the growing indifference toward the Blue Jays (62-77) amid this latest meaningless September.
Joe in Philly
Sep 15 2009, 07:12 PM
So guess which
2008 World Champion team is spending 2010 Gay Pride weekend in Toronto? I'm sensing a trend.
SCTrojan
Sep 15 2009, 07:27 PM
Maybe there are lots of closet homos on the Phillies.
Travelpat
Sep 17 2009, 03:05 PM
Well - if there are some closet homos who think they may be in town for the big final weekend events of Toronto Pride (which runs for 10 days now) - they are going to be disappointed.
Usually the last weekend in June is the climax with all the BIG events of Pride festival - including the three day closure of Church Street with all kinds of beer gardens and outdoor stages and of course the two parades (Dyke March and Pride Parade). But next year everything is being backed up a week because of the G8 happening just north of Toronto on the last weekend in June - when the Phillies are in town. So for that weekend 90% of the hotel rooms in Toronto have already been booked for that weekend by bureaucrats, media and proably a bunch of protesters that always tag along for that event. So the Phillies may need their bats to battle protesters that weekend.
The big weekend is the following weekend for 2010 with the Pride Parade on the 4th of July.
Joe in Philly
Sep 18 2009, 10:48 PM
Well, that's disappointing. Stupid G8.
canmark
Sep 21 2009, 10:31 PM
Globe and Mail:
Victorious Blue Jays remain a pitiful drawQUOTE
You get the sense the end can’t come fast enough for this beat-up squad, which entered last night’s game against the Baltimore Orioles in fourth place in the American League East, a whopping 281/2 games back of the division-leading New York Yankees.
That margin is the most the Blue Jays have trailed a division leader since the end of the 2004 season, when they finished 33 1/2 games in arrears of the Yankees. Playing at a .383 (23-37) clip since the all-star break will do that.
* * *
Certainly the fans have already tuned this team out.
Last night’s puny announced attendance was 11,598, which is about the norm at Rogers Centre of late.
* * *
In Toronto’s previous home series against the Minnesota Twins this month, the Jays averaged 12,315 over the course of the four-game set.
That includes one game that attracted just 11,159, the lowest for a Jays game in the history of the domed stadium.
This season the Jays are averaging 23,433, down considerably from 29,664 last season.
Travelpat
Oct 3 2009, 02:51 PM
Finally JP Ricciardi is fired. Let the celebrations - led by Canmark - begin!
http://www.thestar.com/sports/baseball/article/705012
canmark
Oct 3 2009, 04:48 PM
Ding, dong, the witch is dead! I can be a Blue Jays fan again!

Jays GM is now 32-year old Canadian
Alex Anthopoulous. Good luck to him!
canmark
Oct 27 2009, 06:11 PM
I don't know how hard they looked, but the Blue Jays have made
Paul Beeston, their interim President and CEO, their official President and CEO.
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It's a familiar role for Beeston, who was the first employee of the Toronto Blue Jays in 1976 and eventually was named the president and CEO of the team in 1991. Beeston held that role until leaving to become the chief operating officer of Major League Baseball in 1997 -- a job he held for six years.
Beeston said that he did not plan on remaining on as the president and CEO, noting that he talked to a host of potential replacements.
"We looked at some very good and qualified candidates," Beeston said. "Names I can't give you, because everybody that we talked to was gainfully employed. From that point of view, I don't think it's fair to say who they are. But, at the same time, it was sincere and it was serious. When it got right down to it, the Rogers people always came back with, 'Well, what about you?'
canmark
Nov 12 2009, 07:50 PM
The Jays pick up two
Silver Slugger Awards: 2B Aaron Hill and DH Adam Lind.
canmark
Nov 21 2009, 07:53 PM
Reports are saying that Roy Halladay will not re-sign with the Blue Jays after his contract expires at the end of the 2010 season.
To paraphrase Hall & Oates:
He's gone
Oh I, oh I'd
Better learn how to face it
He's gone
Oh I, oh I'd
Pay the devil to replace him
He's gone
What went wrong?
canmark
Dec 15 2009, 06:29 AM
Sounds like Halladay
deal is going down with the Phillies, although it's still not clear who we get. Happ or Drabek, and which other prospects?
I'm fairly happy at this point because (a) I did not want Halladay to be traded to the Yankees or the Red Sox, and sending him to the NL means Jays fans can still cheer for his success. (

it sounds like we may get decent prospects which will, obviously, save salary.
Not sure why the Phillies would go further and move Lee to get prospects in return. A Halladay-Lee 1-2 punch would be awesome.
Joe in Philly
Dec 15 2009, 08:38 PM
They can't financially keep both Halladay and Lee. Lee was unwilling to sign an extension and will be a free agent after 2010 because he wants a giant CC Sabathia-type contract.
The Phils are giving up 3 prospects and getting 3 back. Without knowing how the 6 prospects' careers will turn out, it's essentially a Lee-for-Halladay trade, with Halladay (reportedly) agreeing to a 3-year extension with possible options for 2 more.
canmark
Jan 9 2010, 10:22 AM
I should probably create a new thread for the 2010 Blue Jays, but I'll do that later. In the meantime, the latest news is that
Jays reportedly bid $23M for Cuban.
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According to a report published Friday in El Nuevo Herald, a Spanish-language version of the Miami Herald, the Jays have offered $23 million (all figures U.S.) to hard-throwing Cuban southpaw Aroldis Chapman.
* * *
When the 22-year-old first defected he linked up with an unproven agent, Edwin Mejia, who helped him establish residency in Andorra and made it clear that any club hoping to sign Chapman needed to part with at least $40 million and move Chapman directly to the majors.
Back then the Jays didn't show much interest in Chapman, whose fastball has been clocked at more than 100 m.p.h., but whose ERA was a pedestrian 4.03 in his final season in Cuba's pro league.
canmark
Feb 14 2010, 11:50 PM
This is old news, but I just found out that Buck Martinez will be back doing play-by-play for the Jays on Sportsnet. Yay! Jamie Campbell--nice guy, but didn't really have it. Buck is a good broadcaster and has history with the team as both player and manager.
canmark
Feb 20 2010, 11:07 AM
Why is Roy Halladay wearing red and not blue?
Joe in Philly
Feb 21 2010, 12:09 AM
Red is where it's at!
canmark
Mar 2 2010, 06:41 AM
Q&A with
Kyle Drabek:
Q: What's the No. 1 tune playing on your iPod?
A: Akon ... just the guy.
Q: What would you be doing if not playing baseball?
A: I'd try to be playing golf. I'm not the greatest but hopefully I could work on that to get up there.
Q: What do you do to relax away from the field during the season?
A: Just hanging out with friends and travel and go see them and stuff.
Q: Last movie you saw and a rating of that movie out of four stars?
A: I saw
Valentine's Day and I would give it 3 1/2.
Q: What MLB player, past or present (non-Jays) do you admire most?
A: It was always fun watching Josh Beckett pitch. He's a competitive guy. I watched him when he was in high school (in Texas).
Q: Favourite city on the road, major or minor league?
A: I'm not sure. Major league I'd want to go San Diego, though.
Q: Major fear or phobia?
A: There's not much. I don't know.
Q: What game system do you own and what's your favourite game?
A: XBox360 and Call of Duty.
Q: If given the choice what would be your favourite uniform number and why?
A: No. 4. I've worn it every year since I've been in the minor leagues.
canmark
Apr 1 2010, 05:26 AM
Yesterday the Jays faced their former ace, Roy Halladay, in spring training action... and beat him, 5-2.
Jason Frasor has been named the Jays' closer. In 2009, he was 7-3, 2.50 ERA, with 11 saves in 14 save opportunities.
canmark
Apr 3 2010, 03:27 PM
Following a breakout season last year (.305 avg, 35 hr, 114 rbi), the Jays have given DH/OF Adam Lind a
4-year $18 million deal, with options for the following 3 season.
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