QUOTE(CPT_Doom @ Jun 17 2009, 03:50 PM)

The funny thing is that we are the only group that Obama did worse than Kerry with - 27% of the LGBT vote went to McCain, so we were already wary of the guy. This is not helping - in fact I would argue Obama is in the process of destroying - not just damaging, but eliminating - his support in the LGBT community. And the only way we can respond is to do what we are doing - cutting off the funding spigot.
Yes I'm still curious about that drop in LGBT vote with Obama. I haven't seen any articles that really talked about it, but its funny that seniors and gays were the two categories that Obama underperformed. It has to be more than just being "wary" of him given the 8 years we had. More wary to go and support McCain with that sidekick Palin? Hmmm...thats scary. So why did he not have the support Kerry did? He's certainly been more vocally supportive and now with the extension of health benefits than any Republican so if gays want to bite off their noses to spite their face do ya really think anything is going to get done soon? Look how long it took African Americans to stick with one party to get certain rights approved.
Instead of relying soley on the president (because I do believe that gay advocates should still be diggin in his ass for equal rights), what the big gay organizations need to start doing is building their support in the same way that Obama was successful in doing. As a gay man of color I haven't really felt a part of the gay rights struggle. So maybe thats why its nowhere near the top of my priority list for Obama to push through that kind of legislation. People were so outraged and many people's true racism came to light when the exit polls showed blacks voting overwhelmingly for prop 8 (even though thats been dispelled that it was solely us who was responsible for its passage...but ya know with all the numbers out there somehow we got the lion's share of the blame

). That shit with blacks who WERE out there to support No to Prop 8 being called the 'N' word certainly didn't help the gay cause amongst generally conservative blacks.
So how about gay organizations looking in the mirror about how they seem to shape this struggle as a movement that seems to be about white gays. A part of me didn't feel sorry for their outrage after Prop 8 passed because there wasn't much outreach to the black community and you are telling me that you couldn't find one black gay couple from California to put in advertisements??? You need to build a coalition before getting something like this passed. Not reaching out to younger blacks latinos (and not the latinos who think they are white...I'm talking about ethnic latinos) who are certainly more open minded than older blacks/latinos, and the black/latino as a whole about this issue should be a start. I know by simple conversation and dialogue I have single handedly changed the minds that many people have felt about gay men....that its not all about sex and clubbing and men in chaps and drag at gay pride. Sorry but thats what most of them think and I don't see many of the main gay organizations doing much to dispel that through outreach.
In addition, (since its not like many gay activists don't use people for their own gain as well) send out black supporters to meet with black clergy and leaders who may be willing to help join the cause. I think you'll find there are many out there who would be supportive, but who exactly has attempted outreach to them?
Its gonna take time and most of the country is still not ready for this kind of change. Small steps yes...but steps nonetheless. Obama definitely needs to be more vocal about DADT since Congress does have to change law to get many of these things approved. Its not just Obama, but I agree since he is the President he needs to be more vocal about supporting these issues since he sets the agenda. Because his election is so historic, I feel as though he does need to push strongly for this under his watch. Its getting better but its still going to take some more time.
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Newsweek has an article entitled "Can Obama Win Back the Gay Community?" So he's lost the entire gay community like that. What has he done differently that other Democratic politicians have it that now suddenly Obama has lost the gay community? Hmm. Well anyway...here is a comment from someone who posted on the aforementioned Newsweek article that I agree 100% with.
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Obama will not be stupid enough to repeal DOMA and DADT during his first term in office. We couldn't win the gay marriage vote in a relatively liberal state like California. As President, he is representing Mississippi and Kansas, too. Gay and lesbians who are advocating that he swiftly make changes don't care about the rest of us. They'll just push the country toward Republican rule. There are people posting on this board right now that abortion and homosexuality are wrong, and they actually expect for you gay fools to get in bed with them. We like to compare our rights with those of racial minorities. Many racial minorities can't comprehend the similarities. Partly because of homophobia and partly because they really do not see the similarity. As a gay person of color, I'll tell you that I don't get it either. And many (almost all) gays and lesbians are closed to any type of conversation regarding racial discrimination, but will use it in their arguments. I even feel used. The only thing that is similar is the discrimination. Until it is proven that sexual orientation is biological, it is different. (Of course I think there is a biologically component.) Further, racial minorities didn't win right rights away. The fight for the rights of African Americans and other racial minorities started more than 100 years before they received any rights. And it is usually the courts who grant the rights. Unfortunately, the courts have left us extremely vulnerable to the will of the majority.
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Each year that passes by I see more and more support for gay rights so I'm hopeful that we are at least moving in the right direction.