QUOTE(BigBlueCowboy @ Sep 9 2011, 08:13 AM)

Look, I have no problem with churches, synagogues, temples, ministers, priests, nuns, or rabbis being politically engaged. and I have no problem with politicians speaking in churches, synagogues, or temples. The Civil rights movement was led by Christian ministers (the Rev. Dr. MLK, the Rev. Andrew Young, the Rev. Jesse Jackson). Barney Frank's predecessor in the House was a Jesuit priest. Countless men and women of the cloth and religious persons have stood up to injustice and demanded political change because of their religious faith. Separation of church and state does not mean political neutrality, apathy, or antipathy.
What they are doing here is wrong. That is why we need to challenge their assumptions and their arguments. The Republican Part, as it is today, and the Tea Party engages in exploiting fear. We need to counter that.
Once I hit post I knew I wasn't clear enough...the separation violation is trying to enact a religious idea, i.e. no gay marriage, for the entire society. I think the counter to it is helping them understand that if we ever had a government that didn't believe in god that they would be trying to do the same things they're trying to do now. That the country is broader than one group.