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BigBlueCowboy
Cynthia Nixon recently caused a minor tempest with her comments in a New York Times Sunday Magazine interview on choosing to be gay.

Here is the Times' op-ed columnist Frank Bruni's response. I have to say that I agree with Bruni. I can't remember coming out of the womb, but by puberty I knew that I was attracted to guys rather than gals. And if everything is biologically or genetically determined, why bother getting out of bed in the morning, if the risk of cancer runs high due to one parent's side or the risk of derision runs high on the other parent's side?

As Bruni concludes, why should it be one way or the other?

Genetic or Not, We Won't Go Away!

In case you need to subscribe, from NY Times January 28, 2012
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Genetic or Not, Gay Won’t Go Away
By FRANK BRUNI
BORN this way.

That has long been one of the rallying cries of a movement, and sometimes the gist of its argument. Across decades of widespread ostracism, followed by years of patchwork acceptance and, most recently, moments of heady triumph, gay people invoked that phrase to explain why homophobia was unwarranted and discrimination senseless.

Lady Gaga even spun an anthem from it.

But is it the right mantra to cling to? The best tack to take?

Not for the actress Cynthia Nixon, 45, whose comments in The New York Times Magazine last Sunday raised those very questions.

For 15 years, until 2003, she was in a relationship with a man. They had two children together. She then formed a new family with a woman, to whom she’s engaged. And she told The Times’s Alex Witchel that homosexuality for her “is a choice.”

“For many people it’s not,” she conceded, but added that they “don’t get to define my gayness for me.”

They do get to fume, though. Last week some did. They complained that she represented a minority of those in same-sex relationships and that she had furthermore handed a cudgel to our opponents, who might now cite her professed malleability as they make their case that incentives to change, not equal rights, are what we need.

But while her critics have good reason to worry about how her words will be construed and used, they have no right to demand the kind of silence and conformity from Nixon that gay people have justly rebelled against. She’s entitled to her own truth and manner of expressing it.

Besides which, there are problems with some gay advocates’ insistence that homosexuality be discussed and regarded as something ingrained at the first breath.

By hinging a whole movement on a conclusion that hasn’t been — and perhaps won’t be — scientifically pinpointed and proved beyond all doubt, they hitch it to a moving target. The exact dynamics through which someone winds up gay are “still an open question,” said Clinton Anderson, the director of the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Concerns Office of the American Psychological Association. “There is substantial evidence of various connections between genes, brain, hormones and sexual identity,” he said. “But those do not amount to a simple picture that A leads to B.”

One landmark study looked at gay men’s brothers and found that 52 percent of identical twin brothers were also gay, in contrast with only 22 percent of nonidentical twin brothers and 11 percent of adoptive, genetically unrelated brothers. Heredity more than environment seemed to be calling the shots.

Other research has posited or identified common anatomical and chromosomal traits among gay men or lesbians, and there’s discussion of a gay gene or, rather, set of genes in the mix. The push to isolate it is entwined with the belief that establishing that sexual orientation is like skin color — an immutable matter of biology — will make homophobia as inexcusable as racism and winnow the ranks of haters.

But bigotry isn’t rational. Finding a determinative biological quirk, deviation or marker could prompt religious extremists who now want gays in reparative psychotherapy to focus on medical interventions instead. And a person’s absence of agency over his or her concentration of melanin has hardly ended all discrimination against blacks.

What’s more, the born-this-way approach carries an unintended implication that the behavior of gays and lesbians needs biological grounding to evade condemnation. Why should it?

Our laws safeguard religious freedom, and that’s not because there’s a Presbyterian, Buddhist or Mormon gene. There’s only a tradition and theology that you elect or decline to follow. But this country has deemed worshiping in a way that feels consonant with who you are to be essential to a person’s humanity. So it’s protected.

Our laws also safeguard the right to bear arms: not exactly a biological imperative.

Among adults, the right to love whom you’re moved to love — and to express it through sex and maybe, yes, marriage — is surely as vital to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness as a Glock. And it’s a lot less likely to cause injury, if that’s a deciding factor: how a person’s actions affect the community around him or her.

I USE the words “moved to love” in an effort to define the significant, important territory between “born this way” and choice. That solid ground covers “built this way,” “oriented this way,” and “evolved this way”; it incorporates the possibility of a potent biological predisposition mingling with other factors beyond anyone’s ready control; and it probably applies to Nixon herself. In a Daily Beast interview after the Times article appeared, she clarified that she has experienced an unforced, undeniable attraction to individuals of both sexes. In other words, she’s bisexual, not whimsical. She just happens not to like that term, she said.

In any case, concentrating on how she ended up like that misses the point.

“Most people’s sexual attractions are pretty much fixed” once they take root, said Jack Drescher, a psychiatrist and psychoanalyst who has written extensively about homosexuality. In light of both that and the unanswered questions about what fixes them, there’s more wisdom and less harm in accepting and respecting homosexuality than not.

We don’t need to be born this way to refute the ludicrous assertion that homosexuality poses some special threat to the stability of the American family. We need only note that heterosexuality — as practiced by the likes of Newt Gingrich and John Edwards, for example — isn’t any lucky charm, and yet no one’s trying to heal the straights.

We don’t need to be born this way to call out Chris Christie, currently trying to avoid responsibility for a decision about same-sex marriage in New Jersey, for being a political wimp. Andrew Cuomo showed courage and foresight in fighting successfully for such legislation in New York. Christie, who fancies himself a dauntless brawler, should do the same in the state next door.

I honestly have no idea if I was born this way. My memory doesn’t stretch to the crib.

But I know that from the moment I felt romantic stirrings, it was Timmy, not Tammy, who could have me walking on air or wallowing in torch songs and tubs of ice cream. These feelings gelled early, and my considerable fear of society’s censure was no match for them.

I know that being in a same-sex relationship feels as central and natural to me as my loyalty to my father, my pride in my siblings’ accomplishments and my protectiveness of their children — all emotions that I didn’t exit the womb with but will not soon shake.

And I know that I’m a saner, kinder person this way than trapped in a contrivance or a lie. Surely that’s not just to my advantage but to society’s, too.
TXEX97
If Cynthia Nixon had simply said, "I'm bisexual. I am currently in a relationship w/ a woman. B/c a same-sex relationship is gay, in that sense I 'chose' to be gay. Likewise, I was formerly in a relationship w/ a man. In that sense, I had "chosen' to be straight,'" she wouldn't have gotten herself into any hot water.

However, she dug herself a deeper hole in the follow-up w/ The Daily Beast.

In an ideal world, it shouldn't matter one bit if sexual orientation is innate or chosen.

But we don't live in an ideal world.

Yes, it doesn't matter to the homophobes whether the cause of homosexuality is nature or nurture. As we've all experienced, there's no getting through to their ilk by using logic, the results of academic studies, etc. They'll use the "homosexuality is a choice" argument whether Nixon had said what she said or not.

But to dismiss Nixon's comments on those grounds is missing the point.

Legally, it DOES matter whether homosexuality is a "choice." When courts determine the constitutionality of laws that make distinctions/discriminate on some characteristic, there are 3 tiers of review. The top tier of review is reserved for, amongst other things, "suspect classes." One of the defining features of "suspect classes" is that they possess an "immutable characteristic."

So when lawyers for our side try to convince courts to use the highest tier of review of the constitutionality of discriminatory laws, it doesn't help their case that a nitwit celebrity insists that she "chose" to be gay.
fenwayguy
Nixon clarifies:
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While I don't often use the word, the technically precise term for my orientation is bisexual. I believe bisexuality is not a choice, it is a fact. What I have 'chosen' is to be in a gay relationship.

...most members of our community cannot and do not choose the gender of the persons with whom they seek to have intimate relationships because they are only attracted to one sex.


Good for her. End of "controversy"?
SeaCraig
I think the most interesting question here is "Does the relationship one is in define their sexuality?"

Many, many, many men are married to women, have kids and yet it they could be totally honest with themselves would identify as gay.

Personally I don't think the bottom line is a "choice" but I do believe people choose relationships that don't align with their sexuality all the time.

I love what Martina Navratilova said in response to Margaret Court's assertion that gay was a choice.... she said that that must mean Margaret tried gay and chose straight.
canmark
If anything, the gay community's treatment of Cynthia Nixon's comments plays more into the enemy's hands than anything she said. What happened to our open and accepting community? Is there only one way to be gay? Do we all have to speak the party line?

She never said she was speaking for the entire LGBT community; she was merely speaking for herself. She can do that, can't she?

And so what if some people use her comments out of context? Those people will use anything out of context. They'll use bogus statistics, and lunatic "experts", and just make things up. It's not going to make any difference to them. We're becoming just like them if we are demanding everyone follow the gay dogma. Can we not accept people for who they are? Who are we to say that her marriage to her husband and her kids was somehow bogus? Or that her current relationship with a woman is bogus? If she says her feelings were/are real... then they're real!

She's now been bullied into issuing a new statement, although I'm pleased she didn't entirely cave in. You go, Cynthia! We got your back!

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"My recent comments in The New York Times were about me and my personal story of being gay. I believe we all have different ways we came to the gay community and we can't and shouldn't be pigeon-holed into one cultural narrative which can be uninclusive and disempowering. However, to the extent that anyone wishes to interpret my words in a strictly legal context I would like to clarify:

"While I don't often use the word, the technically precise term for my orientation is bisexual. I believe bisexuality is not a choice, it is a fact. What I have 'chosen' is to be in a gay relationship.

"As I said in the Times and will say again here, I do, however, believe that most members of our community — as well as the majority of heterosexuals — cannot and do not choose the gender of the persons with whom they seek to have intimate relationships because, unlike me, they are only attracted to one sex.

"Our community is not a monolith, thank goodness, any more than America itself is. I look forward to and will continue to work toward the day when America recognizes all of us as full and equal citizens."
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