I've lost the website for these hot men, but it doesn't matter because I leave for France next week with the sole(okay not really) intention of finding the hot hot hot calendar and videos these men put out. Does anyone have the website? Would anyone else like me to pick up a calender, the new year is coming.

you don't have to search too far to find them.

I'm assuming you'll go to Paris. Go to Le Marais (Hotel de Ville metro stop) and go to the gay book store you see 2 blocks up. across the street from L'open cafe.

For all three calendars

stade francais - boutique


For ordinary photo gallery (match action, team, etc)

stade francais - photo archive

just received my delivery from the website. It took almost two months for some reason. But it was worth it.

I ordered the calendar for a friend's Christmas gift. But the "Making of..." DVD is mine to keep.
All I have to say is that the DVD is one of the hottest things I have seen in a loooong time. It's better than any porn I can think of.

Oof!!!!!

Here are a couple more links:

http://www.scrumdown.net/picture%20gallery...e%202/index.htm

http://www.scrumdown.net/picture%20gallery...e%203/index.htm

Incredible...

They sure do take their squats seriously in France! Whew, and Air France discontinued the Concorde?? They could have had me at bonjour! wink

there is one guy who my straight friends went "wow!" over.

let me explain... the video is very careful not to show the front. only the amazingly beautiful buttsides of these dudes. However, they make the exception of showing this dude... and it becomes crystal clear why they show this dude front and back. Knowwhatahmean?


By the way.. he is absolutely beautiful, face, butt, body and other aspects..

Rugby God

more of the beau mec

a teammate. this one is south african-Irish

[ December 01, 2003, 07:57 PM: Message edited by: ung ]

That French Rugby calendar/DVD can create posts to last a lifetime. Keep 'em comin'!!

Thanks for the post. 46 Euro=$38.65 US. I played rugby against Stade- My team was Nuits St. Georges in Burgundy. Stade is one of the best organized and skilled clubs in France rugby.
I miss my Frenchmen. wink wink

I think your conversion is a bit off. Rge Euro is worth more than the dollar

the God again showing one of his talents

a blond god

une emission typique de France2

Ung:

Yes, I received my calendars last Saturday night (November 29). I am glad that my order through the Internet went well - although I was nervous placing an Internet order to an small sports organization overseas!

I noted that my package was postmarked on November 11 in Paris, so it took them only three weeks to ship the calendars - on surface mail (the cheapest shipping method). That's not too bad!

Ung, how did you view the DVD in PAL format here in the USA? I tried to see the DVD on my combo TV/DVD player, but it didn't work. What should I do to see the DVD?

Mikestead

Comrades:

Let me share my thoughts on the calendars. I ordered the 2001, 2002, 2003 and 2004 calendars and they gave me a free black T shirt with their club name on it! The T shirt looks so cool!

I am interested in fund raising methods for gay organizations, so that's why I ordered the three calendars. Wow, they are indeed NICE calendars - 12 inches by 20 inches in heavy glossy paper! The paper is thicker and heavier than the paper in most 2004 calendars in America!

The calendars appear to be different in France. Each page shows 1/2 of each month (15 days), and the first 1/2 of each month is called the first fortnight with the second half as the second fortnight. As a result, there were 24 pages for each year! Of course, that means more pictures per calendar year! grin

The 2001 calendar was done in black and white photography. All the rugby players were shown in typical rugby positions and poses. The Feb 2001 first fortnight page had an interesting picture of two men holding a massive championship plaque - but it was the same man on both sides of the picture! I don't know how it was done to have one man on two opposite sides of one picture! The last picture of the 2001 calendar showed the team winning the 2001 French rugby championship!

The 2002 calendar was in full color - and it was a pleasant surprise to see stunning color! All the pictures were taken outside of the locker room, and most of the players posed in non-athletic backgrounds. Some women posed in full dress in some pictures - the first time women appeared in these calendars. The February 2002 second fortnight page showed a wicked photo of a grinning man urinating at a lamp post outdoors (although the background looked suspiciously fake - like a theatre stage setting). The June 2002 second fortnight page showed an American country music scene with a guitar player in a cowboy hat amid bales of hay! It was a surprise to see an American setting in a French calendar!

The 2003 calendar was in all black and white photography - and it was a more subdued calendar. I guess that the previous color calendar cost so much money that they had to economize on the following year. The pictures showed individual players with no backgrounds or scenery used at all.

Now, the 2004 calendar was the biggest and boldest calendar. There was some frontal nudity but it was discreet. All pictures were taken in the locker room. One bad thing about the 2004 calendar was that the picture took up the entire page with no white background for the month at the bottom of the page (as previous calendars had). As a result, some pictures completely obscured the month display at the bottom, and it was impossible to read the photo captions, too!

So, comrades, that is how the calendars looked like! You can buy a special package for the 2001, 2002 and 2003 old calendars for 46 euros altogether ($55.20) Not a bad deal!

Mikestead

Comrades:

I have a question about the rugby club. Is it a gay rugby club in Paris?

I doubt that it is a gay sports organization, because they are selling 100,000 copies of the 2004 calendar at 26 euros each ($31.20). That is a big project! I don't think that most gay organizations in the USA or Europe would be able to manage such a large calendar project - especially four years in a row!

However, I doubt that it is a straight group of men. I know that men are more liberated in Europe, than in America - but I wonder what kind of straight men would be willing to pose nude in four years in a row?

I have seen some beefcake calendars of policemen and firemen in America, but these Americans were not totally nude. These beefcake calendars were only one-time events which were not repeated every year.

Eastsidewa, you have played with the Paris team. Are they gay or straight? Or are they the world's first metrosexual sports team? grin

Mikestead

Mikestead: I saw no gayness when I played Club Sportiff Stade. We got pounded and pounded by very fit and agressive rugby players. Lots of players say that the reason France has opted out of wars and international conflict is because of Sunday Rugby. wink ;)Stade was very very organized. They had 12 active sides plus juniors and colts. I also played rugby of London Irish who had 15 active sides plus juniors and colts. But Stade - Their grounds are 10+ acres -nice clubhouse overmatched the London Irish. The Calendar has progressed in the last 5 years to top Xmas seller in France. Coming Out in Rugby is still difficult. But Stade does have it's act together. Yes, men in Europe are more liberal -bisexual is an attractive word. See the difference in the Aussie side Aussie Rugby Site

[ December 02, 2003, 08:26 AM: Message edited by: Eastsidewa ]

Umm, what exactly does this have to do with preparing for a \"rugby match\"? :confused:

sportinlife - I just knew you'd find that one!

Mike, we are glad you explained why you ordered all 4 calendars.

If you hadn't explained, we might have thought otherwise. wink

In reply to some of the previous posts...

NO. This is NOT a gay club. This is a very much the regular pro team of Paris. If you see the DVD, you will see that these are not pro models, nor are they gay porno wanna-bes. They are just very pretty athletes who happen to enjoy (or at least agree to) being photographed naked.

About playing the DVD. The DVD is in a "universal" or "code free" format. meaning it's supposed to work in all DVD players. I have had no problem playing the DVD in any and all players.

and what does that particular pose have to do with playing rugby? Nothing. But then.... neither does lounging on a clay tennis court with your naked ass showing. It's a way of showing beautiful men in poses that get out blood racing.

Eastsidewa

The link you made to Aussie Rugby Site in incorect. This is the Aussie Australian Rules (AFL) Shirtless site. AFL is a completely different game to Rugby

You have to get your protein to keep your strength up for the match. :cool:

Nothing wrong with that!

Mike, if you ordered the DVD in PAL format, that won't work in American DVD players. If my memory is correct, PAL format is for European use and not American use. You'd have to get the standard DVD or VHS format. It's kinda like trying to play a beta tape in a VHS machine.

I think there is a way of re-recording them to play on the other system. Try asking at a video-rental shop that has foreign films (or your local sex shop)

Could you give info on how to order "making of " dvd? Thnx.

Aussie Bomber- YOU are 100% right. I was in a hurry. The "L" in AFL stands for League not Rugby Union. One of the main differences is League players are that they are Pros- they get paid to played rugby. Union players do not get paid. They do it for free. Good Union players usually get tossed a bone or two (pun intended) of an easy job at a Rugby run business (a Bar/ a Travel Agency or something in mareting). The Stade Players in France are amateurs - Not Pros- but most of them do have easy jobs. Sorry for the confusion. Aussie -what position did you play? I'm a flyhalf. J

[ December 03, 2003, 02:42 PM: Message edited by: Eastsidewa ]

Probably the same thing this photo does...

Repeat after me:

These guys are not gay

They are NOT, NOT gay

They're just posed that way

They were told to do it and did it for fun

not NOT NOTgay...sigh

So did they tell this guy to work it up?

Oh, what the hey, can't hurt to look

The DVD is playable in the us. It's not for Pal only.

To order, go to the www.stade.fr site and follow instructions to order. (see instructions of french phrases to look for in earlier posts)

THnx UNG.

Ung:

How come my DVD will not play in my DVD/TV combo?

I inserted the DVD and there was nothing on the screen for a few minutes. I tried the DVD/TV combo on-screen menu to see if I could change the format of the built-in DVD player, but I could not see any information.

I read the fine print on the brochure that came with the DVD, and it said that it had region 3 coding or something like that. I need to go home and look it up again.

Ung, did you do any special procedures to view your DVD? I got a few minutes of blank screen!

I don't encourage Outsports fans to order the DVD here in the USA, till we make sure that all of us can view the DVD ourselves.

Mikestead

Eastsidewa
I think you are still confused. There are 3 codes of football.

1. Australian Rules (AFL)
2. Rugby League
3. Rugby Union.

The web site you had the link to was Australian Rules.

Mikestead regarding you question:

"I have a question about the rugby club. Is it a gay rugby club in Paris?"

And other comment -

"However, I doubt that it is a straight group of men. I know that men are more liberated in Europe, than in America - but I wonder what kind of straight men would be willing to pose nude in four years in a row? "

Having lived in France for three years (I could tell you about the retired french rugby guy I..uh... well maybe not here), I can assure you the attitude is so far from anything Americans could imagine. I could write a book on it.

I'll give you one simple example. When I returned to the states I made friends with a straight French 6' 4" jock that looked like a greek god a paraded around nude as often as he could. I invited him and his french girlfriend up to a ski lodge I was sharing with a gay couple. He would walk naked to a fro the shower without even a towel wrapped around him. It was so extreme his gf pulled one of my friends aside and said "I don't want you to get the impression all French guys are like him. He's extreme. He even parades nude in front of my girlfriends."

My friend got a kick out of guys lusting after him and believe he had his share. I found that attitude not uncommon among hunky straight Frenchmen.

To the french these shots are not pornography but art. And beautiful art at that!!!

I did nothing special to play the DVD.

You may have gotten a DVD that's region 2 encoded. (that's the region for europe) The USA is region-1. If that's the case for you, you need a region free or a "code free" DVD player.

My DVD says "universal" and "all region". That's why mine works in all players.

Mais oui! French actors appear to be equally nonchalant when interviewed about playing gay roles and/or having gay fans, in contrast to American actors' tendency to declare their straightness as a hedge. (Stephane Rideau -- who, coincidentally, was discovered while playing rugby -- is the main example I can think of.)

I think its just part of the more overt sexual display which goes on in all Latin countries. If youve got it, flaunt it certainly applies in Spain and Italy too. I remember when I lived in an industrial town in Spain the unbelievably sexually-revealing clothes worn by young women to work every day was really quite shocking to my Anglo-Saxon eyes. I remember telling one girl who was going to live in England for a while that she would have to tone down the way she dressed if she wanted to be taken seriously in business.

I know what you mean. In the canary islands (Las Palmas) there are a lot of british tourists (from Birmingham mostly it seems) and they all seem to take a step back when seeing the local customs or clothing in Las Islas Canarias.

I had no problem with it obviously. Viva Espana! Vive La France!

[ December 05, 2003, 01:23 PM: Message edited by: ung ]

I've now spent some time looking at the photos on Scrumdown (which provided us with those excellent images of the French players) and I'm really surprised at the obvious comfort of the men with being naked. I guess that most of them are European, non-Latin, as implied by an earlier post. And I find the comfort so dissimilar to the tight attitudes in US gyms. Even the little exposure I've had to gay teams and nakedness, the men are uptight about it. Why do you think there seems to be such a difference of expression/comfort?

I viewed all of the photos, not a bad thing to do on a snowy day in New England, and the comfort level of most of the guys with the camera is obvious. Television isn't censored in Europe like it is here in the US and nudity is seen as a natural thing. If you are exposed to it in the media and with teammates its not such a big deal. The religious right and bible thumpers here in the US are still an influencial force. It's those types of cultural differences that make nudity and sexuality so much more natural in European countries.

[ December 07, 2003, 06:40 PM: Message edited by: WestMass ]

Why the difference between the attitudes of the US vs France?

Think about it. In the US, you have Bible thumpers on every street corner talking about how everything is a sin and just another sign of the coming apocalypse. I mean... we can't talk about condoms to prevent AIDS because the church says it promotes promiscuity etc etc.

If you think about it, there are many "christians" in the USA who would love to turn the country into something that looks a lot like the veil wearing, religious ruled muslim countries.

It's not just Europeans; even Canadians are easier going then us when it comes to religious issue.

Did anyone read this article in the times?

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/02/internat...cas/02CANA.html

I found this comment interesting:

"The nations remain like-minded in pockets, but the center of gravity in each has changed. French-speaking Quebec, with nearly a quarter of the population and its open social attitudes, pulls Canada to the left, just as the South and Bible Belt increasingly pull the United States in the opposite direction, particularly on issues like abortion, gay marriage and capital punishment."

I know Québécoises almost as well as southerners and they have many similarities. Both are country folk and rebels that have trouble accepting the outcome of a war that was lost more than 100 years ago. But the Québécoises went through a kind of revolt against the Catholic Church and all its corruption that has led to their currently easy going attitudes. Just visit Montreal and you’ll realize your not in Kansas anymore.

So how about a calendar of nude French Canadian NHL players!!!

It's not just the south and the bible belt pulling the strings.

FoxNews loves to use writers from The Washington Times on its shows. The Wash Times is the conservative paper in DC (as opposed to the wash post) and as such, fits in with FoxNews' personality better.

Please note that The Washington Times is owned by none other than the rev. Sung-myun Moon and his Unification Church. Yes! The loony head of the moonies who claims to be the second coming of Christ owns The Times.

Yeah, attitudes are really different here in Europe, for example, people think nothing of going to a spa and going through all the saunas, steamrooms & jacuzzis in the nude in front of both men & women. Some of the spas require you to go nude, others have a bathing suit optional policy, but for men, they only allow very brief speedos, no boardshorts or anything like that. And it's just accepted, I've never seen anybody get "aroused" at a spa. Altho I have to admit, it would be more fun if they had separate areas for men & women

My question (since we are featuring these guys in Picture This tomorrow): Are they all active rugby players or just men with beautiful bods who have played at one time? Seems that when I look at their game action photos that the guys don't look as model-ese as the calendar men. I'm just curious; are these guys on the calendar the equivalent of the Denver Broncos in terms of their skills?

I think there is more than enough here to make a calendar:

Official photo of the 2003 French National Rugby Team

And those form-fitting unis are the hottest thing since the Italian soccer team wore their skintight blue shirts in the 2002 World Cup.

To answer your question, Jim.... Yes. They are all professional top level Rugby players. (again this is not like a calendarof models playing pretend in football pads and gear. It;s more like The Broncos, DC United or Real Madrid posing for pics)

The DVD has a section that gives each and every man's stats: name, country of origin, height, weight, color of eyes(don't ask me why), playing experience and age.
The webpage may have the link also. I don't know.

and yes... not all the players make it to the calendar. The french know what they're doing. This is not a Rugby calendar. This is a beefcake calendar put out by a Rugby org. Nuance!

[ December 09, 2003, 07:26 PM: Message edited by: ung ]

Thanks!

We've gotten a few letter from people asking how to order. Can anyone post on the easiest way to do it?

Thanks.

Jim, as ung says Stade Francais is a top club - a number of the players competed for their countries in the World Cup just finished (eg Michalak for France, Bergomasco for Italy and Corleto for Argentina).

See my post above for a link to order - and as mikestead found if your DVD player doesnt have universal coding you need to make sure you get the one encoded for the right region. Perhaps an Outsports e-mail to Stade Francais to get the exact info on that for North American buyers?

[ December 11, 2003, 10:29 AM: Message edited by: jamesw ]

Um, maybe someone has pointed this out, but the Latin peoples originated IN EUROPE. Spain, Portugal, France, Italy, and Romania are ALL LATIN COUNTRIES.

Their people are primarily descended from the Latin-speaking Romans (their languages are all very closely related), as well as others (Celts, Goths, Moors, Arabs, Jews, etc.).

America's culture was set early on by our Puritan ancestors, so that body hatred and puritanism goes all the way back to the 1600s!

[ December 10, 2003, 06:51 PM: Message edited by: fantomas ]

Don't only VHS tapes come in PAL and NST format? With DVDs, you have to make sure you have the right region code. Most computers give you FIVE opportunities to reset/change the code. Then, you either to have a new DVD player or new DVD player software installed.

With new high-quality DVD players, they can shift many more times between region settings. Most porno is non-coded, as are some movies, but most Hollywood products and many European films or DVDs produced in Europe do have regional settings encoded.

It's a problem the DVD machine-makers created to keep you buying DVD players--the genius of capitalism!