This program on the Discovery Channel is very interesting! I am into this show now and just voted for Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Anne Coulter, by the way cand Suck my a**! Nothing new there though, she's an idiot.

How in the world did Clinton and Shrub end up 7 and 6? Neither should have been in the top 25. Clinton should not be considered on his infidelity and lying about it alone. Shrub could easily be the worst American ever dividing the countrty, lying to go to war, lying about avoiding service to the country by using Daddy's name, letting the country slide into a hell hole of an economy when the country was in good shape when handed to you in a non-win election, letting the rest of the world advance in the arena of stem cell research while all of our money goes into a useless war, should I go on? I don't have all night so I won't.

On The Greatest Canadian, broadcast on CBC last fall, the Top 10 were:

1 Tommy Douglas (the 'father of medicare')
2 Terry Fox (lost leg, yet ran 'Marathon of Hope' across country to raise money before succumbing to cancer)
3 Pierre Elliott Trudeau (prime minister)
4 Sir Frederick Banting (discovered insulin)
5 David Suzuki (environmentalist and broadcaster)
6 Lester B. Pearson (prime minister)
7 Don Cherry (hockey 'personality')
8 Sir John A. Macdonald (first prime minister)
9 Alexander Graham Bell (invented the telephone)
10 Wayne Gretzky (hockey player)


The Greatest American
Current top 5: Benjamin Franklin, Martin Luther King Jr., Abraham Lincoln, Ronald Reagan, George Washington.

I love Bill Clinton. I still consider him one of the best Presidents we've ever had. Big deal if he lied about getting blown in the White House. Shrub has done much worse than Clinton, but that's just me.

BTW ... I voted for Martin Luther King Jr for the Greatest American.



[ June 20, 2005, 09:50 AM: Message edited by: Allen ]

I voted for Lincoln. The adversity that man went through as President, and the stands he took - WOW! But, all five men are great people.

BTW, who was the highest woman on the list?

OK, I just saw the list of the top 100. Huh? I love Condi Rice (she was a professor of mine, so I have a soft spot for her). But, top 100 greatest Americans? Tom Cruise? May Angelou? FOUR Bushes (there are more Bushes than Kennedys!)? JOHN EDWARDS?? Rush Limbaugh???? DR. PHIL!!??!!?? They must have just drawn names out of a hat.

[ June 20, 2005, 11:10 AM: Message edited by: Cyd at Outsports ]

It's pretty obvious that people don't have a sense of history. It's always "what have you done for me lately?" so people are going to nominate people of recent history. No one ever has perspective anymore.

By the way, the heading of this post made me think we were going to talk about the greatest American TV show, which I would say is either the Mary Tyler Moore Show, Cheers, Friends or I Love Lucy. Not necessarily in that order.

The heading should be TV Show: The Greatest American.

Funny you should say that, batboy. When I saw the topic, I started singing, "Believe it or not, I'm walking on air..."

LXN

Ha! I used to hum to that too! I vaguely remember that show but remembered that I liked it at the time. I probably would think it's stupid now.

"Who could it be? Believe it or not it's just me"

Ha!

I was more along the lines of...

"I bet we been together for a million years,
And I bet we'll be together for a million more.

Oh, It's like I started breathing on the night we kissed,
And I can't remember what I ever did before.

What would we do baby, Without Us?
What would we do baby, Without Us?

And there ain't no nothing we can't love each other through.

What would we do baby, Without Us?

Sha la la la."

And the winner is... Ronald Reagan.

Ronald Reagan was voted The Greatest American.

Top 5:

1) Ronald Reagan
2) Abraham Lincoln
3) Martin Luther King Jr.
4) George Washington
5) Benjamin Franklin

eek! eek! I obviously didn't get to vote! eek! eek!

Remember, a couple of years ago, the Brits did a "greatest American" survey and Homer Simpson won.

~Adam

[ June 30, 2005, 09:36 AM: Message edited by: Adam ]

And the British survey clearly is more accurate than this one.

This is a classic example of events dictating
public opinion.The only reason Raygun ended up
in the top 5,much less winning is all the
publicity and media coverage surrounding his death and funeral last summer.

Prior to that,he had basically faded
into a historical footnote,except among his ardently conservative disciples.The
revisionist history that the Right was able to engineer during that 2 week spectacle was both offensive,and unfortunately, highly effective.It served as a rallying point for the true believers going into the GOPconvention,and set the tone for the type of cleverly distorted campaign they were able to put over on the
electorate thruout the fall. eek!

[ June 30, 2005, 10:02 AM: Message edited by: Tim ]

Will you still feel that way when they carve his face in Mount Rushmore?

LXN

It would definitely be a reason for me to
avoid putting the Badlands on my travel
itenerary.Btw,I imagine if you had polled
his contemporaries James Polk would've
probably made the same sort of list.
However history is usually more
discerning-don't imagine you'll
find old JK on too many top Prez
lists.

From a former resident of South Dakota, it will NEVER HAPPEN!!!

If Reagan's face gets etched into Mount Rushmore, I hope God smites the mountain as He did the Old Man of the Mountain in New Hampshire.