You missed my point about Ellen. I wasn't just referring to her talk show. I've seen her stand-up act a couple of times in person... both times she took audience questions after her act. The last time I saw her, a woman in the audience got up to the microphone and asked her what she thought about Bush and the Iraq war. She refused to answer and moved on. The response from the sellout crowd was a collective groan and it was really uncomfortable. A few people even walked out.

It's hard to really like someone who doesn't take a stand on anything. Ellen has a great opportunity to speak out on her talk show but will never speak up about what she truly believes. I think that's unfortunate. Sure she may last longer on TV but what has she gained in the end? More money? Yeah. More respect? No. So now we know what she is all about. If she really cares that much about what a conservative ma and pa in Kansas City think about her, then she's lost my respect.

OK, now back to the Kathy discussion...

[ August 19, 2005, 04:56 PM: Message edited by: TheOtherFSU ]

Tonight ... Kathy is at the Grammys and I think her gay, Dennis, is along for the ride.

Loving this show more and more every week! :cool:

So ... who's your boo?

Stop looking at my rack!

Who else do you think has Hepatitis C?

What do you order at The Olive Garden?

Hey, could you fill in for me? Usher just slipped me his room key.

Hey Blind Boys ... come over here!! :cool:

Do you think Star's snatch and my snatch are the same {insert censor beep here} [discarded suggestion from the Main Gays]

I remember watching the Grammy red carpet telecast when it happened and it was one of the funniest things ever. The E! Network kept bleeping her though so you never quite knew exactly how funny the jokes really were, but they left enough intact. Among the highlights... Kathy posed this question to a fairly obscure rapper, "I think America looks to you for answers, so tell me... who's going to win Project Runway?"

I imagine your vagina looks like Audrey 2 in Little Shop of Horrors.

I cracked up when I heard that!!

I forgot this one ... What's up with Jesus?

[ August 25, 2005, 02:15 PM: Message edited by: Allen ]

I think Kathy's hilarious, I love her timing.

My only slight disappointment was her reaction to the Leno thing, where she was saying how he said "a before and after" picture...something about being the really attractive girl's friend at the bar.

Her entire act is based upon making fun of celebrities. I just think if she's going to be able to dish it out as harshly as she does, she should be able to take it. Reacting like that just didn't make sense for that reason, and because she's always so willing to make fun of herself, too. Sure, no one wants to be called ugly, but I don't think she can really think for a second that she's some kind of beauty queen, and that she's exempt from being a target.

Man, Clay Aiken must have insulted her in another life, because she really lets him have it. A lot of it is absolutely hilarious, though.

[ August 25, 2005, 08:04 PM: Message edited by: Tennis Guy ]

I don't think Kathy overreacted to Leno at all. I thought what he did was cruel. It wasn't comedy.

Kathy indeed does make fun of celebrities as part of her act. However, she doesn't make fun of them when she's sharing the stage with them. Or when she's invited them to an event (unlike Leno who insulted his invited guest, Kathy). Humor is far different when it's in someone's face. Would Kathy call Star Jones a fat pig to her face? No. Would Kathy go off on Oprah while in Harpo Studios? No.

When Kathy presented with Clay at the American Music Awards, she poked fun at him by saying she was still sore after sleeping with him the night before. That kind of joke is funny, and I doubt Clay took offense to her proclaiming him as a heterosexual man on national TV.

Leno's "humor" was not humorous at all.

There are those who would argue that saying something behind someone's back you would never say to his or her face is far crueler than saying something obnoxious. I don't find Griffith's schtick terribly entertaining. I don't find Leno all that funny. Getting indignant about a comedian trying to be funny and failing seems a bit sanctimonious.

Leno was an ass**** towards Kathy - plan and simple. Kathy did a great job on the Tonight Show, however, Jay needs some compassion which he will never figure out.

Last night's episode was AWESOME!! Kathy being tormented by Renee Zellwiger sending Kathy a bouquet of roses that cost $520.

LOVED IT!!

"There's something sinister about this. Don't you think so? Don't these look like they're the color of menstrual blood?"

I sure hope they do another season. I can't believe the run is over already.

And oh yeah, SUCK IT!

Kathy Griffin was on Adam Corolla's new talk show on Comedy Central last night. She is auctioning off a concert ticket to see Kelly Clarkston in concert in Las Vegas w/ Kathy and "her gays" on Ebay.

As of right now @ 818a Central Time, the bid is at $5,900.

All proceeds go to the victims of Hurricane Katrina.

Whoops!! I forgot this ... Kathy's interview in LA's Frontiers magazine.

Would someone tell Kathy "enough with the plastic surgery,already!"

Her plastic surgery looks A LOT better than most Hollywood starlets.

My point is that she really didn't need it.

Kathy is going to be at the Emmys!!! ... with Star Reynolds and Carson Kressley.

Oh well. At least Kathy will be there.

Looks like Kathy and Matt are divorcing. I find that somewhat interesting...

http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2005-0...n-divorce_x.htm

You don't think Matt is a "gaymate" do you? That'd really put a bee in her bonet!

I didn't pick up a gay vibe from him.

Wow, that's shocking about the divorce, considering how she played up her "non-Hollywood-like" marriage during her series.

I was really split about their marriage. At times I thought they really were a sweet couple, but then at times I felt Matt didn't show her as much romance you'd expect from a man in love. Anyway, wonder what she'll do now since he was her business manager. I mean, she can't even get her agent to return her calls!

I'm sad for them. I thought they made a really sweet, oddly balanced, couple.

Kathy has a new special that will air at 7pm on Bravo next Tuesday 12/6 and , undoubtedly, 426 other times throughout the month.

I finally bought her DVD, Allegedly, and it was just OK. I found her last two Bravo specials more hilarious. The stories seemed more developed. I wonder if it was because the DVD was 90 minutes and I can only take 60 minutes of Kathy? Hmm. Anyway, I still love her. I mean, I am one of her gays.

Guess who is coming back to Bravo??

Our favorite D-Lister is comig back this summer and I, for one, is THRILLED!!

Did anybody see her on Bravo last night? Her Oprah schtick was hysterical!

Kathy Griffin wants to get off the D-list!

Go to the link I provided and vote for what she should do to get off the D-List and then she will do it.

I did see that special last night. It was just hilarious!! I really do hope that Matt and her get back together.

I saw the special last night, too. Very funny stuff. The real question: Is Bravo gayer than Logo?? :confused:

I watched too and loved it!! I 'bout fell out with the story on her dogs in Palm Springs. LOL

I seriously think it is!

Anyone watch the first episode of season 2?

Not me. But Kathy Griffin is amazingly hilarious in this! I can't help but laugh. My friend just turned me on this show and it's great! This is trash TV at its best.

My BF and I watched it. We got hooked last season. It was pretty good. She talked about Iraq in her stand up so I'll be interested to see it in the show.

Bravo reran it last night at 11 and I watched... till I started dozing off at 11:50. It was as good as anything in season 1.

I saw Kathy live here in NYC on Monday. She's so funny. All that stuff about Gayken, Oprah, Tom Cruise, Lindsay Lohan - it's so funny.

Caught the first episode the following night. Are she and Matt together, or what? Someone told me they got divorced this spring. I couldn't quite follow Kathy's explanation of it.

The divorce is on hold as Kathy and Matt try marriage counseling. Kathy has joked about it but says she has hopes. I think on some level she realizes a lot of folks are rooting for her and Matt to make it work. Maybe that makes a difference.

Did any of you watch last night? You should have seen it.

She was in Kuwait and then Iraq entertaining the troops. Kathy really keeps impressing me.

She's hysterically funny and she's completely established her niche on Bravo and beyond, and for us gays that spells many more laughs...and entertaining the troops in Iraq definitely takes some balls and well, good for her. I really like Michael McDonald - he's a cutie.

Though I can't imagien the troops wanting her to, let's see Barbra Streisand go over there instead of doing another comeback tour where she's going to bilk her fans at $1000 a pop. Imagine Babs in camoflague?

Kathy is a hoot and she scores major points for going over and making the soldiers forget about the hell they are even even if it's just a few minutes. The ABC improv bit was both hysterical and amazing.

I watched last night. I love her!

Unfortunately, I saw somewhere that the attempted reconciliation with Matt didn't work out and that thay are moving forward with the divorce.

OK, is Kathy really a gay icon or not? I want to think so, but I wonder what everyone else thinks.

[ June 21, 2006, 02:24 PM: Message edited by: UCLAfan ]

Maybe not "icon" yet. But damn funny. I think give her a few years and the title "gay icon" can be had.

"Where my gays at?" - Kathy Griffin to an audiance of US military in Iraq. Priceless