"Just then, Shawn Green emerges from the showers, rubbing a towel on his head and wearing only a towel. Three millimeters thick of terry cloth is separating Green’s goodies from my life’s most embarrassing moment. I really didn’t have that much time to think about it before Green whipped off the towel and began to get dressed.
Holy $@!!!
I’m going to need to see a chiropractor for the whiplash I gave myself. I turned away to not see most of the goods, but due to circumstances beyond my control, I saw Greenie’s buns, le toosh, el booty. Catch my drift?"
A Different Side Of #15 Article
Patti Shea's first assignment at Dodger Stadium will probably be her last. The Santa Clarita Signal reporter has decided she doesn't belong anywhere near the clubhouse. "I'm better off watching baseball and not reporting on it," she writes. "I don't need half-naked or naked men showing me their other talents while I'm trying to talk to them. I write on news and politics for Pete's sakes, where people are fully clothed when giving interviews ...Oh wait, I was a Clinton White House intern!"
I believe that members of this forum would have a slightly different reaction?!!
At least I know my member would!
Full Version: In the Dodger Lockerroom
Frankly, I'm appalled by Patti Shea's behavior. Why the hell did she turn away?!?!
Alison Gordon, a Toronto Star reporter back in the '80's wrote a book called "Foul Ball! Five years in the American League" about her experiences as a sports writer covering the Blue Jays during the time when they first opened the clubhouse to women reporters. At the time, it was pretty controversial and she encountered some hostility and some harrassment. She said that some players, out to embarrass her would go out of their way to be naked. She recounted one player (I think it was Keith Hernandez) doing a handstand in the doorway nude with his umm...flag at half mast. It's kind of an entertaining read, though I've always felt that the locker room interviews were an intrusion on the players privacy and it would have been better to exclude all reporters from the locker room rather than admit women.
She subsequently became a mystery writer specializing in baseball-related stories. The only one I read "The Dead Pull Hitter" was kind of fun.
She subsequently became a mystery writer specializing in baseball-related stories. The only one I read "The Dead Pull Hitter" was kind of fun.
I think the idea behind going into locker rooms is to get player/coach reactions as quickly as possible. The more time passes after a game, the more they cool down and aren't quite as open about the events on the field. Whether it's needed or not, I don't know. But whatever access is given to men, women should be given equal access.
As for this Patti Shea, I would normally say that she's an embarassment to sports journalism, except that she's clearly not a sportswriter and isn't interested in covering sports on a regular basis. But apparently she isn't able to conduct herself in a professional manner like so many others, both male and female.
No wonder people don't think women should be covering sports at all, let alone go into a locker room.
[ August 21, 2002: Message edited by: Joe in Philly ]
As for this Patti Shea, I would normally say that she's an embarassment to sports journalism, except that she's clearly not a sportswriter and isn't interested in covering sports on a regular basis. But apparently she isn't able to conduct herself in a professional manner like so many others, both male and female.
No wonder people don't think women should be covering sports at all, let alone go into a locker room.
[ August 21, 2002: Message edited by: Joe in Philly ]
I know I'll get blasted for this.... But, I believe that women reporters have no place in the men's lockerroom. Think of the opposite situation... do men reporters go into the women's lockerroom to get the immediate reactions of Venus and Serena Williams? Are men allowed to see Anna Kournikova right after her post match shower? Do men get access to the WNBA lockerrooms?
As to the other matter...... I'm right there with her and her reaction... except I would not have gotten whiplash by looking AWAY. I would have zeroed in on those "goodies" like a vulture on a piece of dead cattle.
As to the other matter...... I'm right there with her and her reaction... except I would not have gotten whiplash by looking AWAY. I would have zeroed in on those "goodies" like a vulture on a piece of dead cattle.
But a gay male reporter could presumably interview men in the locker room, so why can't women?
[quote]Originally posted by canmark:
But a gay male reporter could presumably interview men in the locker room...
EXACTLY. As for the Williams sisters, this never comes up because there are interview rooms at tennis tourneys...
And it doesn't come up at all for female team sports, because men don't care about them.
But a gay male reporter could presumably interview men in the locker room...
EXACTLY. As for the Williams sisters, this never comes up because there are interview rooms at tennis tourneys...
And it doesn't come up at all for female team sports, because men don't care about them.
[quote] But a gay male reporter could presumably interview men in the locker room, so why can't women?
I think we all know the answer to this one, right? All boys grow up sharing bathroom facilities with other boys and we do all have the same parts (albeit in different sizes) so it's not a big deal for one guy to see another guy naked in a locker room. He's seen it his whole life. It's just one facet of our culture that we differentiate between sexes when it comes to nudity. (And on a primal level, the unspoken potential for rape also probably figures in there when you're talking clothed male/naked female. Who is it that has the power in that situation?)
The real question is why was she wasting her time on that Tom Green boy when she could have been checking out Tyler Houston, a REAL man?
[ August 22, 2002: Message edited by: Lots-of-us ]
I think we all know the answer to this one, right? All boys grow up sharing bathroom facilities with other boys and we do all have the same parts (albeit in different sizes) so it's not a big deal for one guy to see another guy naked in a locker room. He's seen it his whole life. It's just one facet of our culture that we differentiate between sexes when it comes to nudity. (And on a primal level, the unspoken potential for rape also probably figures in there when you're talking clothed male/naked female. Who is it that has the power in that situation?)
The real question is why was she wasting her time on that Tom Green boy when she could have been checking out Tyler Houston, a REAL man?
[ August 22, 2002: Message edited by: Lots-of-us ]
canmark..... Correct me if I'm wrong please. But when equating womem reporters with gay male reporters.... you're only looking at one side of the whole lockerroom interview equation... that is... the reporters reaction to the naked (hot) jocks.
The other element that should not be ignored is the athlete's reaction to the presence of a woman in the lockerroom as they are in various states of undress. a gay male reporter would not be as "disturbing" as a female reporter. sharing the lockerroom with a gay man happens everyday in gyms everywhere, whether one knows it or not. Sharing a lockerroom with a woman does not.
The other element that should not be ignored is the athlete's reaction to the presence of a woman in the lockerroom as they are in various states of undress. a gay male reporter would not be as "disturbing" as a female reporter. sharing the lockerroom with a gay man happens everyday in gyms everywhere, whether one knows it or not. Sharing a lockerroom with a woman does not.
If she can't take the heat, she shouldn't be in the kitchen--she did the right thing and quit. Any reporter worth her or his salt (and with any semblance of a libido) wouldn't hesitate to catch these studs mumbling while in their birthday suits.
Before she fled, however, did she catch sight of Brian Jordan, Dave Roberts, Adrian Beltre, or baby-faced Odalis Pérez? Do they do handstands in the nude? Is there some way to persuade them to try?
Before she fled, however, did she catch sight of Brian Jordan, Dave Roberts, Adrian Beltre, or baby-faced Odalis Pérez? Do they do handstands in the nude? Is there some way to persuade them to try?
Ung... but, what I was thinking of was the players' reaction to the reporters in a (sexual) safety sense.
Men (and male players), generally speaking, have little to fear from women.
Women (and female players), have a lot to fear from men--harassment, rape, etc.
Women reporters are less likely to get off on seeing Shawn Green's parts as male reporters would get off on seeing Anna Kournikova's. And that's just because men are men.
Men (and male players), generally speaking, have little to fear from women.
Women (and female players), have a lot to fear from men--harassment, rape, etc.
Women reporters are less likely to get off on seeing Shawn Green's parts as male reporters would get off on seeing Anna Kournikova's. And that's just because men are men.
lots-of-us.....you are so right, Tyler Houston is one hot man and what a great ass!!
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