The next Survivor...coming in 2005! This time, 20 survivors will meet and, according to the promo, everything they have known from previous seasons will be changed within the first 10 minutes.

[ December 13, 2004, 05:28 AM: Message edited by: bobby78751 ]

What could they possibly do differently?

Oh, I don't know...eat one of the other contestants, maybe.

I volunteer to eat Ami. :cool:

Ami looked beautiful last night on the reunion special. I mean for for being a girl and all.

[ December 13, 2004, 10:20 AM: Message edited by: CHIathlete ]

GJ, you've been hanging around us boys too long. Didn't you know lesbians are supposed to be all relationship-y and not even think about sex.

I agree. I thought she was beautiful all the way thru. And the fact that she voted for Twila was awesome.

I hope they get rid of the team concept, and make it every person for him/herself. I'd even vote for getting rid of the voting concept. Have an elimination contest every day, and the loser goes home. Eliminate the weak and stupid. That way the survivor would actually be a survivor, not the best liar/mind game player. This whole alliance/voting concept is a bunch of crap. It's turned into nothing more than a big mind game, certainly not the survivor game it seemed to start out wanting to be.

They being EPMB have said this every season since the first season.

OMG everything will be changed within the first 10 minutes!!! Typically we get lame twists like men vs women, or let the oldest people pick the tribes. These types of things are not mind blowing.

Mike

Weaselman the main premise of Survivor is a game of social interaction and trust to develop a society. That is what makes the game most interesting IMO. It would be very boring to have each person for themselves.

How much are you willing to lie and backstab to get further in the game? This makes the game interesting.

Mike

Interesting question. I like the idea of some change to scew the game towards more of a game of survival. What if they kept the tribe concept for reward competition, with rewards allowing for more food and rest and then made the eliminations individual?

I was a huge fan of all the seasons of Survivor, but this one did not grab me at all. Part of it was the emergence of Lost and Desparate Housewives to take up more of my limited TV time, but the show also seemed very tired (not to mention the fact that the goodlooking guys were all voted off early!)

Hmmm...the main premise is a game of social interaction and trust, and to get further in the game you must lie and backstab. How does lying/backstabbing fit into the premise of trust and developing a society?? It might make for "interesting" TV, but it's really just the same old stuff every season with a different cast. Kind of like the Real World on an island, but with the added "twist" of voting people off.

As I recall, the build-up to the first season focused on the survival aspect; each contestant could only bring 1 item with them, people were eating rats because they were hungry and losing weight like crazy. The winner used his brains to figure out that he should form some alliances to win because otherwise he had no chance in hell - since then, it's been nothing but the same old crap over and over, just in a different location. The people change, but ultimately, it's just a head game. What would be so wrong about turning it into a true survival game, rather than this lame show about who can lie and backstab the best? If the format stays the same as always, maybe they can just rename it : "Survivor: Junior High all over again".

After the show was a breakout hit after season 1 people who applied for this show figured out what needs to be done to get further in the game.

For example it is a well known fact that most of the contestants start packing on the weight once they know they are cast. I believe I also read that the food issue was dealt with by the producers as in earlier seasons people got really sick. For example I know Lex from the Africa season wound up with really bad parasites that took him over 2 years to get rid of.

Granted I believe that is the price you pay for trying to win a million dollars and become a media whore. So they get little sympathy from me.

I like the concept of individual immunity, but the majority of the challenges tend to be physical which would automatically put any older or out of shape contestants out in the early rounds of the game.

I think the game was interesting and original for the first 4 seasons. The show I believe has a limited life span and is nearing its end. Too many of these people go one these shows to use as a stepping stone into the world of entertainment and most fail.

Sorry for the long post.

Mike

They also said next season will begin with 20 castaways. Survivors 1 through 7 had 16 people, then they went up to 18 for all-stars and Vanuatu.

They have hyped up "everything will change in the first ten minutes" in past seasons, but after the initial surprises it turned into the same old Survivor as always. One season the two oldest castaways picked tribes; one season they had to jump off the boat with a few bucks and buy provisions in a village; twice they've had male vs. female tribes. I hope they really shake it up
this time.

I wish they would live as one big tribe. Then for competitions they vote for two leaders, and the leaders pick teams, one-by-one. Losing team goes to tribal council. Next competition, they start over again with new leaders, new teams. Something like that, that combines the individual survival aspect with the team aspect.

So last night at the end of the Reunion Episode, Jeff gave info on new Survivor season sign-ups. He specifically said something to the effect 'If you are going to QUIT, don't call us.' Well, given he just got back from taping Survivor Palau...it is my guess that somebody on S10 quit...a la Osten.

She did look nice. What I couldn't figure out was why she showed up for the tribal council looking like she was going to a cocktail party.

All of the women looked hot last night with the exception of Scout and Twila...she is a total future client for Extreme Makeover. But I love Twila- her honesty at tribal council was touching.
But Chris did earn the victory.

I think a couple things could be done to spice things up....

Right off the ship, the first 18 to the island will be the ones who make it in the game... Sort of symbolizes those in war who don't make it to shore....eliminate 2 right off the bat.


Or start off with 4 tribes of 5. 2 tribal councils the first 2 episodes. Would be interesting to have a tribe of all women, a tribe of all men, and two tribes of 3/2 splits. During reward challenges the tribes are on their own. But during immunities, the tribes are somehow "drawn" to pair up. The losing 2 tribes each lose a member.

The fun of it...the 4 tribes never know which other tribe they will be paired up with when getting voted off is at stake.

Maybe Chrissy was still on the island and they had "special plans." wink

I agree with Kick re: the immediate elimination within the first 10 minutes. 20 is too many and they'll make them perform some challenge that will immedately knock off the excess baggage.

And no more balance beams!

Maybe it will be the homos vs. the heteros. That would be a switch. Highly doubtful, but hey! It's something.

[ December 14, 2004, 10:26 AM: Message edited by: Allen ]

For those interested the cast list is now up at the CBS website.

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor10/

The premiere is until February 17th.

Mike

Wow, it looks like there is a great hunk factor this time around! Of the 10 men, 7 of them are "currently single." Only one jumps out as gay (stereotypically gay, anyway): Coby's bio says he "studied at the Aladdin Beauty College and received his license from the Texas Cosmetology Commission. He currently co-owns a hair salon with his best friend, Amanda. He enjoys traveling, taking photos, visiting museums or painting. He has acted in local and professional theatre and loves being involved in anything artistic."

Indeed. I saw a number of men who were easy on the eyes. wink

My pre-season faves:
Jeff
and
Jonathan

3 attorneys...the chick from Houston has DRAMA written all over her. Move over, Omarosa.

I don't want to jinx myself again by saying who I think is cute, they never seem to last. So I think I will try the reverse season and say the people who I want voted out first as being the eye candy.

Thus my list of hotties includes.

Wanda (Twila redux)
Willard
Ashlee (Neleh redux Mormon chick)

Did anyone notice our token Gay boy Coby he graduated from the Aladdin beauty college. Angie seems to be on the fringe. I wonder if she will be able to mesh with these people? What is up with the feathered wing hairdo on the photo of Ian??? I will let it slide since he is a dolphin trainer and works with disabled youth.

Mike

I like Weaselman's suggestions, although I doubt we'll ever see that happen unless the ratings plummet and CBS is desperate to make some drastic changes....as maxallen pointed out, this cast definitely appears to have more of a "hunk factor" than any of the previous nine including Bobby Jon (you know he's gotta be from the south with a name like that wink ) who was voted Alabama's most eligible bachelor by Cosmopolitan and moved to L.A. to pursue a modeling career in 2003.

CBS also may have consciously chosen cast members who bring more of a human-element to the show, as with Jonathan, a 23 year old who "was diagnosed with and cured of testicular cancer earlier this year" and has spent time over the last two years "learning how to skillfully master the art of sushi-making"....gee, and for all this time I didn't even know there was much "art" or "skill" involved in making sushi.

~Joe

The comments written about Coby on this site are a HOOT!!

I e-mailed a friend of mine who is from the Athens, Texas, area and he says that he met Coby at a gay bar in Tyler and Coby e-mailed a naked pic of himself...and, according to my buddy, Coby is "massively hung". Still, Coby isn't my type, I don't care how big his schlong is.

Some things are better left unsaid Bobby.

eek! eek!

maybe Bobby Jon is a stealth gay. Or not. Anyway, boy pinged my gaydar.

Is Coby gay? I can't tell...

Have you seen the latest hype commercial? The survivors are stranded with no supplies and no help...and three survivors leave during the first show! Hype, hype, hype. Why have we not yet heard the voice-over of, "The most shocking SURVIVOR episode...ever!"

For those of you who just can't get enough of past Survivor contestants, I found this bit of news on TV Guide online:

[quote]George_Eaglesfan:
For those of you who just can't get enough of past Survivor contestants, I found this bit of news on TV Guide online:

[QUOTE] Uncle Sam may want to set his TiVo to Family Feud the week of Feb. 14. That's when alleged tax evader Richard Hatch will try to outwit, outplay, and outlast the likes of Susan Hawk, Rupert Boneham, Ethan Zohn, Rudy Boesch and Johnny Fairplay on a special Survivor-themed edition of the game show[/quote]So...you think old Rich will report any of these winnings on his taxes? What a moron.

The most shocking twist ever for Survivor.
They don't have to swim to the island!
For reality fan junkies Saw a clip on Fear Factor tonight that they are doing a reality star edition.
It flashed pretty quick so didn't catch who is on except they did a bio on ****Omarosa****
showed a clip of her in the water and looked like she was drowning!

I heard that Amazing Race's Reichen is supposed to be on, too. Omarosa..ooooh, this is going to be good!

My favorite (based strictly on looks).

Just don't make me actually watch the show. Warring tribes? I get enough of that at the office. eek!

Another rocket scientist tries to get on reality TV (from TV Guide):

Bumping this thread up for tonights season premiere!

Mike

As stated earlier...
my 2 preseason faves:
JEFF
and
JONATHAN

I just think it's bizarre that 3 people will go tonight.

The spoiler sites all seem unanimous on the 'boot' pick for tonight.

Wow, It was a medium "shocker" but how could nobody pick Jon? I guess the older lady in the end figured she could have a better alliance with the guy that looks like Ed Bradley then the young guy. To add pain to punishment he had to ride off with the lady screeching another song she had written!
I think this season will be much better then last though. People seem much more interesting!

My instinct tells me that something interesting could be done with Wanda and Jon.

In the past, Jeff Probst has always been adamant to tell interviewers and the public that "fire represents life", etc, etc. Your game is only over once "the tribe has spoken"...

Who is to say that Wanda and Jon couldn't be brought back into the game later as "prisoners of war" or something else....

Or I could just be smoking crack LOL

Jonathan is gone! Damn you, Survivors! I hope rats nibble at your feet, sand fleas infest your hair, and a thousand snakes find their way inside all of your bodies! Damn you all to hell!

It was great to see the smooth, hairless pits of my other fave Jeff. He'll probably be picked off next week!

The soon-to-be-departed Jonathan swimming to shore

Jonathan looking disgusted

Sad Jonathan

Goodbye, Jonathan

[ February 18, 2005, 06:50 AM: Message edited by: bobby78751 ]

Always remember that Survivor is all about twists and turns. Jeff said that two people would be packing up and going home. He didn't say when they would be going home. I would bet we see them again. Just wait!!

Also, remember the season finale of the last year's show when Jeff said if you sign on for Survivor do not quit. We don't need quitters. Who do you think quits this season? I am sure he was referring to someone quitting during this season.

[ February 18, 2005, 07:46 AM: Message edited by: gadbearr ]

Survivor used to have 16 players...then 18...and now 20. Granted with 17 remaining, they are now at the same pace as Vanuatu but I just don't see them bringing back sweet Jonathan or Wanda since there is still just a 39-day timetable for the game. That would have to invovled more than one double-elimination episode and I really don't see that happening. I'm afraid sweet guy is gone for good. frown

C'mon bobby, have a heart. Think of the trauma alla those chirren were exposed to by seeing their English teacher in a slip. Ewww! eek!

[ February 18, 2005, 08:01 AM: Message edited by: GatorJamie ]

GJ, I never said I was disappointed that Wanda got kicked off. All that singing...geez!

Why is it that one of the eye candy always has to go first on these shows. Not that there isn't plenty left to look at, but they should have kept Jon and gotten rid of Coby. My favorite at this point is the fireman from NY. On another note did anybody see when Jeff was walking out of the woods? Was it just me or did he look like he was seriously packing???