White Sox over Angels in 7
Astros over Cardinals in 7
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white sox in 6
cardinals in 6
BUT i'm hoping they go the distance.
cardinals in 6
BUT i'm hoping they go the distance.
White Sox in 5
Cards in 6
Man, I'm going to be so depressed if my prediction comes through. The other two main fan bases on campus are going to be going crazy, while I watch from the sidelines.
Again. :mad:
Cards in 6
Man, I'm going to be so depressed if my prediction comes through. The other two main fan bases on campus are going to be going crazy, while I watch from the sidelines.
Again. :mad:
Where's the poll?
I agree, Whitesox in 7 and it better go 7 for me to have any interest.
Cardinals in 6.
I agree, Whitesox in 7 and it better go 7 for me to have any interest.
Cardinals in 6.
This is the poll. This way you can't stay anonymous when voting. wink
Halos in 6
Red Birds in 6
Red Birds in 6
I'm rooting for an Angels-Cardinals WS, but I fear the quick turnaround for the Angels may hurt them. Still I'll go with the Angels in 7, Cardinals in 6.
Here's what I would LOVE to see....
Astros over Cards in 6
White Sox over Angels in 5
And for the realists out there....
Cards over Astros in 5
Angels over White Sox in 7
Then in World Series
Cards over Angels in 6
Astros over Cards in 6
White Sox over Angels in 5
And for the realists out there....
Cards over Astros in 5
Angels over White Sox in 7
Then in World Series
Cards over Angels in 6
Anaheim in 7
St Louis in 7
Joe Buck and Tim McCarver annoying in 2
~Adam
St Louis in 7
Joe Buck and Tim McCarver annoying in 2
~Adam
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Adam:
Joe Buck and Tim McCarver annoying in 2
Is that innings? If not, I've got the under in a big way!
Joe Buck and Tim McCarver annoying in 2
Astros and White Sox ... I'll say 6 each. Los Angeles-Disneyland is too banged up, the Cards are about to meet a Team of Destiny (to a point).
The Angels take a 1-0 lead. I guess rest is overrated. wink
Now the part of the playoffs I despise the most: when television dictates that we can't see both LCS games. Instead of the old 4 pm and 8 pm start times, both games tomorrow will start at 8 ET. So one game will be on Fox and the other on FX.
Now the part of the playoffs I despise the most: when television dictates that we can't see both LCS games. Instead of the old 4 pm and 8 pm start times, both games tomorrow will start at 8 ET. So one game will be on Fox and the other on FX.
JOEINPHILLY you are rigt about the tv selection! My Dad now deceased, was a huge baseball fan (RED SOX) but stopped watching after the television market took control. Making the CUBS have night games etc! Why did the Angels have to play tonight? Because of television sponsorship! Yeah they won, but having to travel to Chicago w/ a 2 hour time differnce is just not right! America's game indeed!
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Joe in Philly:
The Angels take a 1-0 lead. I guess rest is overrated. wink
Now the part of the playoffs I despise the most: when television dictates that we can't see both LCS games. Instead of the old 4 pm and 8 pm start times, both games tomorrow will start at 8 ET. So one game will be on Fox and the other on FX.
That's why God invented TIVO, Joe. Once you have it, your life is forever changed for the better.The Angels take a 1-0 lead. I guess rest is overrated. wink
Now the part of the playoffs I despise the most: when television dictates that we can't see both LCS games. Instead of the old 4 pm and 8 pm start times, both games tomorrow will start at 8 ET. So one game will be on Fox and the other on FX.
Ain't nothin' like pausing one tuner, watching the other, pausing that one, going back to the other, etc.
I meant to do this before I found out last night's score, so I'll give my predictions based on what I thought before last night (even though last night's outcome wouldn't have changed my mind.)
Angels in 5
Cardinals in 6
Angels in 5
Cardinals in 6
Shouldn't Piniella be mandated to throw one tantrum per game in the booth?
If I hear "smallball" 2000 more times in these series, I may puke. Small ideas for small minds.
If I hear "smallball" 2000 more times in these series, I may puke. Small ideas for small minds.
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MIB:
That's why God invented TIVO, Joe.
Republicans ... living in a world where everyone can afford electronic toys.
That's why God invented TIVO, Joe.
Uh, Earth to Bill, TIVO's are a dime a dozen. It's not exactly like they're expensive, you know. They cost as much as someone's willing to spend, meaning if one wants to replace the hard drive in them with a larger one, tweak the software with customized modifications, then, yes, they'll run a bit more; otherwise, a DirecTV customer can get one for free.
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MIB:
Ain't nothin' like pausing one tuner, watching the other, pausing that one, going back to the other, etc.
And how do you watch one game and avoid seeing score updates from the other game flash on the screen? Ain't nothin' like pausing one tuner, watching the other, pausing that one, going back to the other, etc.
wink
Cards lead the NLCS 1-0...ALCS tied at one with help from what sure looks like a bad call by the home plate umpire. I switched back and forth early on, and then stuck with the AL game once the Cards opened up the lead in their game.
Mike Scioscia was asked if he felt the game was stolen from the Angels and he said "No, we didn't play well enough."
Mike Scioscia was asked if he felt the game was stolen from the Angels and he said "No, we didn't play well enough."
Nice victory tonight in the bottom of the 9th, they needed this victory. Pitching has been solid so far...the hitting, well thats a different story..
GO SOX!!!!
GO SOX!!!!
ALDS....what a crock. Just like the NBA, the "officials" become involved to ensure the series goes the maximum number of games.
The catcher should've waited for the out call before he rolled the ball back to the mound. Even if it was a bad call he should know that has to see the umpire signal that the batter is out. S
Hey, guys, there's a good discussion of this going on in the Ask the Ump section. The thread is LCS Umpires. We still haven't heard from our own Ump about this. Maybe it was HIM? 
Fox Cancels ALCS After Just Two Episodes
October 13, 2005 | Onion Sports
LOS ANGELES — Fox Entertainment president Gail Berman announced Thursday that the network is pulling the plug on ALCS, the new three-hour drama/comedy about two rival clubs competing for the coveted "pennant," just two shows into its run.
"This uninspired series featured a cast of uninteresting characters, a hackneyed plot, and more boring narration than actual meaningful dialogue," Berman said. "We tried to find an audience on Tuesdays, then on Wednesdays, and we were prepared to move its time slot to Friday nights or Saturday afternoons before ultimately realizing that the series had zero potential."
Television experts cited several other possible reasons for the early cancellation, such as the overly expensive sets and costumes, the show's subject matter, and the fact that the series' projected breakout character—a brash, outspoken black man named Carl Everett—tested very poorly with audiences. Fox remains optimistic about its other fledgling program, NLCS, but critics say the series has "very little chance" of making it past seven episodes.
October 13, 2005 | Onion Sports
LOS ANGELES — Fox Entertainment president Gail Berman announced Thursday that the network is pulling the plug on ALCS, the new three-hour drama/comedy about two rival clubs competing for the coveted "pennant," just two shows into its run.
"This uninspired series featured a cast of uninteresting characters, a hackneyed plot, and more boring narration than actual meaningful dialogue," Berman said. "We tried to find an audience on Tuesdays, then on Wednesdays, and we were prepared to move its time slot to Friday nights or Saturday afternoons before ultimately realizing that the series had zero potential."
Television experts cited several other possible reasons for the early cancellation, such as the overly expensive sets and costumes, the show's subject matter, and the fact that the series' projected breakout character—a brash, outspoken black man named Carl Everett—tested very poorly with audiences. Fox remains optimistic about its other fledgling program, NLCS, but critics say the series has "very little chance" of making it past seven episodes.
That was a "Chicago style" win, as in Doug Eddings playing Mayor Daley delivering Cook County to JFK.
It also enabled Crede to redeem his dumbass baserunning boner.
Scioscia was just trying to keep the umps from being pissed if he blamed the loss on them.
It also enabled Crede to redeem his dumbass baserunning boner.
Scioscia was just trying to keep the umps from being pissed if he blamed the loss on them.
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buccoman:
The catcher should've waited for the out call before he rolled the ball back to the mound. Even if it was a bad call he should know that has to see the umpire signal that the batter is out. S
The Catcher should have tagged the batter after the third strike automatically. It should be habit by now...The catcher should've waited for the out call before he rolled the ball back to the mound. Even if it was a bad call he should know that has to see the umpire signal that the batter is out. S
M
So every time an umpire gives the same exact strike 3 call and you happen to catch the ball before it skips the dirt (like every replay I've seen) you should tag the batter?
Its ridiculous to blame Paul for the that. The umpire is clearly at fault in this situation, and every baseball columnist and expert is on the Angels side in this situation.
On Baseball Tonight, they reviewed the umprire's calls and they showed that he had the same strike three call for every strikeout. That one on A.J. was no different. And Paul said there was no verbal signage that the umpire thought the ball had hit the dirt.
The call was bad. The excuse given was worse. He should publicly apologize.
Its ridiculous to blame Paul for the that. The umpire is clearly at fault in this situation, and every baseball columnist and expert is on the Angels side in this situation.
On Baseball Tonight, they reviewed the umprire's calls and they showed that he had the same strike three call for every strikeout. That one on A.J. was no different. And Paul said there was no verbal signage that the umpire thought the ball had hit the dirt.
The call was bad. The excuse given was worse. He should publicly apologize.
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DCBucky:
Fox Cancels ALCS After Just Two Episodes
October 13, 2005 | Onion Sports
LOS ANGELES — Fox Entertainment president Gail Berman announced Thursday that the network is pulling the plug on ALCS, the new three-hour drama/comedy about two rival clubs competing for the coveted \"pennant,\" just two shows into its run.
\"This uninspired series featured a cast of uninteresting characters, a hackneyed plot, and more boring narration than actual meaningful dialogue,\" Berman said. \"We tried to find an audience on Tuesdays, then on Wednesdays, and we were prepared to move its time slot to Friday nights or Saturday afternoons before ultimately realizing that the series had zero potential.\"
Television experts cited several other possible reasons for the early cancellation, such as the overly expensive sets and costumes, the show's subject matter, and the fact that the series' projected breakout character—a brash, outspoken black man named Carl Everett—tested very poorly with audiences. Fox remains optimistic about its other fledgling program, NLCS, but critics say the series has \"very little chance\" of making it past seven episodes.
Fox Cancels ALCS After Just Two Episodes
October 13, 2005 | Onion Sports
LOS ANGELES — Fox Entertainment president Gail Berman announced Thursday that the network is pulling the plug on ALCS, the new three-hour drama/comedy about two rival clubs competing for the coveted \"pennant,\" just two shows into its run.
\"This uninspired series featured a cast of uninteresting characters, a hackneyed plot, and more boring narration than actual meaningful dialogue,\" Berman said. \"We tried to find an audience on Tuesdays, then on Wednesdays, and we were prepared to move its time slot to Friday nights or Saturday afternoons before ultimately realizing that the series had zero potential.\"
Television experts cited several other possible reasons for the early cancellation, such as the overly expensive sets and costumes, the show's subject matter, and the fact that the series' projected breakout character—a brash, outspoken black man named Carl Everett—tested very poorly with audiences. Fox remains optimistic about its other fledgling program, NLCS, but critics say the series has \"very little chance\" of making it past seven episodes.
Got to love the onion.
[quote]Illini_fan:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DCBucky:
[qb] Fox Cancels ALCS After Just Two Episodes
October 13, 2005 | Onion Sports [/quote]Please post the link--this is hilarious!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DCBucky:
[qb] Fox Cancels ALCS After Just Two Episodes
October 13, 2005 | Onion Sports [/quote]Please post the link--this is hilarious!
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fantomas:
Please post the link--this is hilarious!
Here it is. Please post the link--this is hilarious!
The Onion has increased their sports coverage of late -- lots of good stuff there:
Apparently Soccer Player Just Did Something Really Good
MLB Promises Next Season Will Be Even More Predictable
Peyton Manning's Wife Tired Of His Constant "Audibles" At The "Line Of Scrimmage"
ESPN Courts Female Viewers With World's Emotionally Strongest Man Competition
oh ... and this gem:
THIS DAY IN SPORTS HISTORY
Oct. 13, 1996:
Billy Ripken's long-running consecutive-games-not-played streak comes to an end when seven Orioles players come down with the flu during the American League Championship Series, forcing manager Davey Johnson to choose between Billy and relief pitcher Archie Corbin for the starting second base job.
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MetsfaninVA:
... every baseball columnist and expert is on the Angels side in this situation.
Hardly. As more of them view closer shots of the pitch, and realize what umpire mechanics are, they're changing their minds. Several of the so-called "experts" today have admitted their change of opinions on this. Even I changed my mind when I saw what turned out to be the decisive view of the ball hitting the ground.
... every baseball columnist and expert is on the Angels side in this situation.
You know, I wanted to wait until I've seen the play about five hundred more times before I responded to this. I've read columns on ESPN, the New York Times, USA Today....where are these people you're talking about coming from? Your neighbors? You can clearly see the ball in Paul's glove.
Can't you just accept that the umpire blew a call? The guy made a mistake. End of story.
Can't you just accept that the umpire blew a call? The guy made a mistake. End of story.
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MetsfaninVA:
You can clearly see the ball in Paul's glove.
Uh, not quite. Comcast's big zoom shot shows the ball clearly hitting the ground.You can clearly see the ball in Paul's glove.
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Can't you just accept that the umpire blew a call? The guy made a mistake. End of story.
Ok...so even though the guy says he should have made himself clearer, no mistake was made.
Even though the guy who made the mistake says that he should have done something different, there obviously wasn't anything off that occurred right?
Whatever.
Even though the guy who made the mistake says that he should have done something different, there obviously wasn't anything off that occurred right?
Whatever.
Of course, all this could have been avoided if only Josh Paul had tagged Pierzynski, whatever Eddings had done.
On a similar note, there's a move afoot on local sports talk to have fans at the game tonight eschew thunder sticks and rally monekys and instead show their support for the Angels by tucking their fingers into their palms, cocking their elbows, and pumping their fists. Strike three, you're out. Anything that rids us of the rally monkey is a good thing by me.
~Adam
On a similar note, there's a move afoot on local sports talk to have fans at the game tonight eschew thunder sticks and rally monekys and instead show their support for the Angels by tucking their fingers into their palms, cocking their elbows, and pumping their fists. Strike three, you're out. Anything that rids us of the rally monkey is a good thing by me.
~Adam
Someone suggested the Angels run to first on every swinging strikeout...
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Adam:
On a similar note, there's a move afoot on local sports talk to have fans at the game tonight eschew thunder sticks and rally monekys and instead show their support for the Angels by tucking their fingers into their palms, cocking their elbows, and pumping their fists. Strike three, you're out. Anything that rids us of the rally monkey is a good thing by me.
Even if people do it, it won't last. It makes no noise and you can't make money by selling it at the concession stands. You're stuck with rally monkeys. wink
On a similar note, there's a move afoot on local sports talk to have fans at the game tonight eschew thunder sticks and rally monekys and instead show their support for the Angels by tucking their fingers into their palms, cocking their elbows, and pumping their fists. Strike three, you're out. Anything that rids us of the rally monkey is a good thing by me.
Rally monkeys...
...see the People Who Should be Shot Thread.
...see the People Who Should be Shot Thread.
White Sox win 5-2!
Two complete game gems in a row. Garland comes off two weeks rest to pitch a complete game, with only one mistake--a pitch hit for a 2-run dinger.
Chicago is halfway to a World Series! Oh, someone pinch me...(wait--this IS Chicago, and there's plenty of time to still blow this thing). eek!
Two complete game gems in a row. Garland comes off two weeks rest to pitch a complete game, with only one mistake--a pitch hit for a 2-run dinger.
Chicago is halfway to a World Series! Oh, someone pinch me...(wait--this IS Chicago, and there's plenty of time to still blow this thing). eek!
By the time I got home from the hockey game tonight the game was already over. Last week when I got home the Angels and Yankees were only in the 7th inning. wink
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MIB:
Chicago is halfway to a World Series! Oh, someone pinch me...(wait--this IS Chicago, and there's plenty of time to still blow this thing). eek!
I predict that if the White Sox win the World Series you'll spontaneously combust. wink Chicago is halfway to a World Series! Oh, someone pinch me...(wait--this IS Chicago, and there's plenty of time to still blow this thing). eek!
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MIB:
Oh, someone pinch me...(wait--this IS Chicago, and there's plenty of time to still blow this thing). eek!
The first time I read this I thought it said punch, not pinch, anmd thought there would be lines around the block to volunteer for this task given the animosity some have for the judge.Oh, someone pinch me...(wait--this IS Chicago, and there's plenty of time to still blow this thing). eek!
Sox were pretty impressive last night and the Angels offense has been anemic.
What's with all the facial hair in the Astros-Cards series? Previously clean-shaven guys (Ausmus, Lamb, Lane, Clemens, Morris, Sanders, Mabry, etc.) are all sporting beards or stubble.
[ October 16, 2005, 03:03 PM: Message edited by: canmark ]
[ October 16, 2005, 03:03 PM: Message edited by: canmark ]
My favorite stubble.. Ausmus and Burke
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canmark:
What's with all the facial hair in the Astros-Cards series? Previously clean-shaven guys (Ausmus, Lamb, Lane, Clemens, Morris, etc.) are all sporting beards or stubble.
Playoff beards? I thought they only did that in hockey. wink I'm not complaining, though, as long as they keep them from getting unruly.What's with all the facial hair in the Astros-Cards series? Previously clean-shaven guys (Ausmus, Lamb, Lane, Clemens, Morris, etc.) are all sporting beards or stubble.
The Angels are in serious trouble.
White Sox, one away from American League Champions.. Third starter completing the game...
I can't wait for a World Series Huston/Sox..
I can't wait for a World Series Huston/Sox..
Love the introduction by John Buccigross (Adam's penpal/stalker) of the "Baseball Tonight" crew tonight, with Harold Reynolds, Jeff Brantley, Larry Bowa and himself: "with the player, the pitcher, the manager -- and I'm the geek!" wink
With all the attention the AL series is garnering (mostly due to questionable calls...) the NL is sort of the overlooked series, but it's really been a nice example of "NL-style" baseball. I hope it goes the full seven.
~Adam
~Adam
Well, there are some questionable calls in the NL series. That is, Tony LaRussa and Jim Edmunds have been tossed for questioning balls and strikes.
My question is: Jim Edmunds was tossed and a pinch hitter had to come in with a 3-2 count. Will that AB count (for statistics purposes) for Edmunds or the pinch hitter?
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Edit: just noticed that John Rodriguez is credited with an AB (0 for 1), which seems kind of unfair since he came in with a 3-2 count.
Question 2: There are stats kept for # of pitches seen (ie. pitches taken for balls, swinging strikes, taken strikes). Since Edmund's AB doesn't 'count' as an AB, would the pitches he took in the AB count on those statistics?
I guess this is similar to the case where a guy is in the middle of an AB and a runner is caught stealing for the 3rd out. The AB doesn't count as an AB. (But the pitches thrown would presumably count in the pitchers pitch (and balls/strikes) count.
[ October 16, 2005, 04:51 PM: Message edited by: canmark ]
My question is: Jim Edmunds was tossed and a pinch hitter had to come in with a 3-2 count. Will that AB count (for statistics purposes) for Edmunds or the pinch hitter?
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Edit: just noticed that John Rodriguez is credited with an AB (0 for 1), which seems kind of unfair since he came in with a 3-2 count.
Question 2: There are stats kept for # of pitches seen (ie. pitches taken for balls, swinging strikes, taken strikes). Since Edmund's AB doesn't 'count' as an AB, would the pitches he took in the AB count on those statistics?
I guess this is similar to the case where a guy is in the middle of an AB and a runner is caught stealing for the 3rd out. The AB doesn't count as an AB. (But the pitches thrown would presumably count in the pitchers pitch (and balls/strikes) count.
[ October 16, 2005, 04:51 PM: Message edited by: canmark ]
Houston does it again.. what a game!!, LaRussa ejected, Edmonds ejected and one of the most incredible double plays I've ever seen to end the game...
Go Astros!!
Go Astros!!
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canmark:
There are stats kept for # of pitches seen (ie. pitches taken for balls, swinging strikes, taken strikes). Since Edmund's AB doesn't 'count' as an AB, would the pitches he took in the AB count on those statistics?
The pitch count was inherited by his replacement, Rodriguez, who finished the at-bat, so they do count as pitches on the pitcher's record. How they would count on the hitter's record for those really arcane stats like "Edmonds is 4 for 8 when swinging at the third pitch of an at-bat on a Friday in June when it rained that morning but not the day before" I'm not sure. wink There are stats kept for # of pitches seen (ie. pitches taken for balls, swinging strikes, taken strikes). Since Edmund's AB doesn't 'count' as an AB, would the pitches he took in the AB count on those statistics?
I was amazed at that double play the Astros turned to end the game -- it seemed like such a slowly hit ball that I figured the game was tied. And if it had been, what a momentum-turner it would've been for the series after they allowed Larry Walker to get to third base.
As I write this the White Sox are 3 outs away from the World Series...I can't see them blowing a 3-run lead here.
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