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DCBucky
A great annual rivalry -- The Naval Academy v. St. John's College -- took place yesterday in Annapolis -- on the croquet field (ok maybe croquet is as much a sport as chess ...) St. John's is a terrific small liberal arts college with a Great Books curriculum (I think it's third in age among U.S. college's -- younger only to Yale and Bill & the Bitch). The college doesn't field any NCAA teams -- so this event allows them to contest their cross-town (cross-street actually) rivals.
Navy boys looking \"too cool\" in their croquet whites.

St. John's won yesterday's Cup.
sportinlife
Interesting bit of cricket news on the BBC sport page this morning DCBucky:

100 mph bowl.

Looks like a gentle and gentlmanly game but that sounds like a pretty dangerous missile to get hit by.

That Great Books curriculum looks interesting. Often wish I'd had better grounding in the classics. Hope they get to learn some about other cultures (Chinese, Arabic, Indian -southeast Asian that is) in their spare time though. The world is getting smaller.

I heard that William & Mary was the oldest college from a friend who went to UVA so I guess that's your "Bill & the Bitch." Hate to think what they call my Maryland Terrapins. The possibilties are scary.
twin58
Harvard (1636) is oldest. William & Mary (1693) is second oldest. Yale, the third oldest, was founded in 1701. Thomas Jefferson spent two years at W&M and was graduated in 1762.

Just to show that St. John's is not just a bunch of dumb croquet jocks, here's an article about the academics from Friday's _Post_.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/artic...-2002Apr26.html

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A Classic Conundrum at St. John's
College Lures More Scholars but Hopes to Keep Its Characters

By Nelson Hernandez
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, April 27, 2002; Page B01

Almost every class at St. John's College used to have someone like Stick Boy.

The enigmatic young man earned his nickname for his habit of carrying a tree branch everywhere. Even at bookish St. John's, where students spend four years contemplating thinkers such as Plato and Aristotle on a tiny campus in Annapolis, Stick Boy was unusual. But the college had always embraced nonconformists and even outright kooks.

These days, though, Stick Boy might not make it into St. John's.

In the past decade, the private, nonparochial college has seen its applications soar, reflecting not only demographic trends but also the school's success in promoting its Great Books program. So many students want in that St. John's can no longer accept almost every student who applies, even those who were abject failures in high school or couldn't fit in anywhere else. And that is making St. John's a little less weird.
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sportinlife
Right you are twin58. Harvard is indeed "the oldest institution of higher learning in the United States" as said on their web page.

And William and Mary is "the second college in the American colonies" as stated on their web page.

I should clarify that my UVA friend said there was some dispute about the title of "first college" which I did not understand at the time. After reading a little of each institution's own description of its history it seems that W&M was a "college" from its establishment by British charter, whereas Harvard was a group of nine students with a master training them to be protestant ministers.

I'm sure more knowledgeble people than me have quibbled about the definition of a college in much greater depth but my friend who is the grandson of native americans through at least two grandparents (one cherokee and one blackfoot - one of which is probably part of my own heritage)could contend that any group of nine native americans learning from a wise chieftain might qualify as a college using the standard that these two schools apparently accept.

BTW didn't mean to confuse croquet and cricket. Guess I was as dumb as any jock.
twin58
[quote]Originally posted by sportinlife:
I should clarify that my UVA friend said there was some dispute about....


Friends don't let friends go to UVa.
Chip
um, yeah, right.....NOT
sportinlife
Would you send your kids to a school with a

diamondback terrapin

as its symbol?

Is that scary or what?

My nine month old niece could draw better.

To continue a theme, from Merriam-Webster online, terrapin is a word from the New York group of Delaware Indians, an Algonquin tribe.

Were we discussing croquet?
twin58
[quote]Originally posted by sportinlife:
Would you send your kids to a school with a
diamondback terrapin as its symbol?



Fear the turtle.
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