OK, WVUBuff, here's your opportunity. Forget all the other ramblings, I want to hear how and why WVU football will dominate, and challenge for the National Championship in each of the next 3 years. By your own admission, one good season is not a valid reason. Almost anything else is fair game. How about telling us how many freshman were starters were on your "freshman dominated" team? You can throw in how the major recruiting services have ranked recent WVU classes. How recruits fit the needs of the team. You can talk about the coaches and their history of success. Recent history of the team, and progression shown. What players you are losing, and who is waiting in the wings. Facilities improvements. Hell, a favorable schedule (toughest games at home, for example) is fair game. How the team will adjust when those underclassmen declare early for the NFL draft. But don't limit yourself to these topics, just about anything else you can come up with is open.

However, just like a football game, there are a few ground rules. You cannot bash or put down other schools (remember, this thread is about WVU). You can, however, reference other schools for compare and contrast purposes (i.e., relative rankings of recruiting classes). Opinions are like ass****s, everyone has one... so try to stick to the facts.

You have proclaimed yourself to be extremely knowledgeable about WVU football. I, and many others, are listening. The floor is now yours. It's your opportunity to make your case. Bring it.

[ January 11, 2006, 07:53 PM: Message edited by: Penn State ]

This is why not only WVU fans but many are forecasting amazing success in Morgantown. Take into account WVU has been in the top 5 of rushing teams in the last 5 years under RR's spread offense. Also, Lineman COach Trikett is considered the best OL coach in America, so developing amazing lineman is becoming a yearly event for him.

2006

West Virginia returns 9 starters on offense. 7 of them were 1st year players last year. On defense, WVU returns 7.

Here is a breakdown of WVU's high powered offense and why it will be difficult to contain.

QB Pat White.

As a freshman, Pat White only started the last 6 games of WVU's regular season. During those 6 games, Mr White passed for almost 850 yards ( 9 TD's & 5 ints) & and rushed for 976 yards with 7 touchdowns ( 7.7 yards per carry 2nd only to Reggie Bush in college football)
*Pat White made CFN's list of the top 10 Quarterback overall in college football.
* 1st team freshman All American
*3 games with over 200 yards rushing
* Pat White turned down the Angels and their 350,000 signing bonus & LSU, Auburn, Alabama, Tennessee, & FSU to play for coach RR. He's from Daphane, Alabama.
* 4.4 speed
RB Steve Slaton

As a freshman, Slaton rushed for 1100 yards & 17 touchdowns in only 7 games.
Sugar Bowl MVP rushing for 204 yards against UGA #4 ranked Defense.
* 1st team Freshman All American
* From Philly and chose WVU over Maryland, Iowa, PSU, and others
4.3 speed & 100 meter champion in PA his senior year

Fullback Owen Schmitt

In his first year in college football, the bruising fullback ran for 450 yards & 5 touchdowns. His blocks were crucial for taking out linebackers and opening huge holed for Slaton & company.


WR Darrius Reynaud

This dazzling sophomore playing his first year of football and will regain a year of eligibilty when he graduates on time in 2008. Caught over 30 passes for 400 yards & 7 touchdowns.
*Had 7 catches in the Sugar Bowl for 87 yards with 1 TD & ran 11 yards for another touchdown.
* Chose WVU over LSU and other SEC schools. Track & field champion in Louisiana & led team to state championship in football. 4.2 speed

WR Darryll Jollah
Sensational downfield blocker. Caught 9 passes for 150 yards and 3 touchdowns.

OL Ryan Stancheck
*Started 10 games this year as a redshirt freshman
* 2nd team freshman All American
* Chose WVU over Mich State, NC State, Purdue

OL John Bradshaw
Started 3 games & played reserve as a freshman. Very Talented and will replace 2nd team All American OL Garrin Justice
* Top lineman in VA in 2004. Chose WVU over VT, UVA, Clemson, UNC, Mich State

freshman PK Par Mcafee 11-17 on FG's including 9 of his last 11. Kicks almost every kickoff through the end zone.

The 2 other starters for next year


Senior Center All American Dan Mozes
* 2nd Team All American in 2005 by amost everyone & finalist for top OL in country.

Senior Jeremy Sheffey
*3 year starter who should be an All American candidate next season

Other offensive contributors

Senior to be 6-6 Brandon Myles
* 34 catches 540 yards 4 touchdowns. Needs to work on his blocking and doesn't start because of this.
* 5 catches in Sugar Bowl

[ January 11, 2006, 08:57 PM: Message edited by: WVUBuff ]

you make a very compelling case for why the college football world will have to reckon with the mountaineers in '06. they were very good this year, and return a ton of (talented) starters.

but (there always is one, isn't there?) your predictions for years beyond is where my credulity gets a bit strained. in the good old days, that old-school folks like me long to return to, kids stayed in school until they graduated or their eligibility was used up.

these are not the good old days. promising athletes these days hit the recruiting radar screen in junior friggin' high school and get pampered and preened until they commit to some big-time program. at that point they generally think they are god's gift.... and that is why top talent goes marcus as often as they do. who's to say one of the talented underclass mountaineers won't go marcus and leave the game, dubiously, within the next year or two?

and then there is the next level -- the pros. used to be that professional teams kept hands off until kids left school. officially, they still do. but don't think for a minute that hot prospects aren't being 'recruited' into the pros. how many articles have we seen about whether young or bush would be the top overall pick? thinks that's idle sportwriter speculation? hardly, the message is being sent, via the press, is that if you turn pro, we'll take you first in the draft. and with the speculation about contracts and signing bonuses that appear in print, the temptation for underclassmen to jump to the pros is, increasingly, too great.

and that is why, even with their cadre of underclass talent, it is difficult to predict more than a year out. were wvu to win it all next year, how many kids in their program would adopt the "there's nothing left to achieve at this level" attitude and turn pro?

as for sticking around to earn the old sheepskin -- not likely. the mountaineer football team has a 33% graduation rate , so earning a degree doesn't seem to be much of a motivator.

your prediction for next year seems justified, and you might be right with your predictions beyond next year, but long-term predictions are a risky business, indeed, these days.

[ January 12, 2006, 06:05 AM: Message edited by: thersis ]

That graduation rate ( 2003) was right after a coaching change as legendary & college fotoball hall of fame coach Don Nehlen retired & Coach RR had many leave the program his first two years, thus having a lower graduation rate.


WVU's graduation rate is now back in the 60 percent range as it typically stays. Also, WVU typically has more Academic All Big East & All American palyers than any Big East schools ( ranked 2nd in graduation & 3rd academics for athletics).


There isn't a high turnover anymore now that Coach RR has been in morgantown for 5 years.

Buff is right...in the last reporting year, WVU graduated 64% in football.

apologies.

my intent wasn't to disparage the west virginia program, but to point out the various avenues via which a program can lose talent other than through graduation, and to point up the difficulties of keeping young talent together, thus making multi-year predictions untenable.

WVUBuff We had a full stable of QB's last year and knowing we had Caudle locked up for 2006, we didn't recruit a QB.

Here is a little history

Pat White was in the class of 2004 in high school & redshirted last year as the Great Rasheed Marshall was WVU's QB last season ( Big East MVP last season).

Pat White originally commited to LSU, but had a change of heart and came North to Morgantown. All the schools I listed offered and recruited him hard with some wanting him as a DB, WR, or QB.

He choose WVU.

I would imagine Auburn might have not recruited him hard for QB, they wanted him more as an athlete. ( as I forget the Queen Tigger for a minute and her presence on the board) But, I actually like Auburn. The Tiggs are my second favorite SEC team. Some of my better friends in Atlanta are AU grads and attended the SEC championship game in Atlanta last season as well as the game in Knoxville.

I agree with those saying you have to watch for underclassmen going to the pros early. You will have those players for a year or two, but you probably won't get 3 more years if they are as good as advertised. And then there's the sophomore slump... some have it, some don't.

You've only talked about the offensive side of the ball. You're going to need to score lots of points if your defense isn't stopping anyone. I know if won't be the same team on the field next year, but you gave up 34, 44, and 35 points to the 3 best teams on your schedule, Virginia Tech, Louisville and Georgia respectively.

Also, what about recruits for next year? I know kids are still committing, but who do you have coming in?

[ January 12, 2006, 06:17 PM: Message edited by: Penn State ]

Ok, since I have found real sports fans, let discuss PSU. Since I admit I was being slightly playful when throwing fun at PSU's backup sophomore QB Anthony Morelli.

What's the word on him? How has he looked?

Also, did Galen Hall really make that much of a difference with Robinson at QB?

From this season from last season, I don't know if I have ever seen a QB improve as much as Robinson did in one year.

Is that attributed to Hall?

It is being more attributed to Paterno finally changing and letting go enough to let his coaches - coach. He sent his assisstants to the University of Texas in the off season where they learned how to run an offense with a quarterback that is more in the same vein as Vince Young..although no Vince Young. Honestly, WVUBuff, I've never seen Morelli take a snap, so I have no idea how he is going to be. Maybe good, maybe not. But hs is not going to be the same as Robinson. And it makes many PSU fans wonder, if Robinson had played just quarterback for the previous three years instead of being moved all over the field, could he have made a difference. Hard to say with him having this years freshman receivers to hand off and throw too, but one enver knows what could have been.

There was absolutely a huge difference. I hope a drop back passer can deliver PSU to the same kind of success as Robinson did this year.

Does PSU have other QB running/passing prospects similar to Robinson? It would make sense to not fix what isn't broken.

Part of it was Paterno keeping his nose out of the playcalling on offense. For years he let the defensive coordinator do his job, but when it came to the offense, he would be calling his own plays. That was great when Paterno's style of offense won games. Had he done that a few years ago, even with Robinson at receiver and Mills at quarterback, things might have been different. Remember, we were losing games by less than a touchdown (remember the 6-4 Iowa debacle, where Iowa willingly gave up safeties because they knew we couldn't move the ball?). Ganter took the heat, and was moved into an administrative position, and Hall was brought in. Known as an offensive genius, he wasn't given much opportunity to display that until this year.

Every once in awhile Paterno realizes that some things need shaken up (usually a little too late after the fact). This time the result was that he sent Hall and Jay Paterno to Texas, as was mentioned before. And then he actually let them use what they learned. Imagine that.

JayPa is viewed by most as the anti-Christ, who only has a job as quarterbacks coach due to his father. However, he is supposedly very close to his players, and even named his first two children after Zack Mills and Michael Robinson. So the jury is still out on this one. However, I think it can safely be said he was a terrible recruiting coordinator, and things really started to change in that area once they took him out of that role a couple of years ago.

I have heard (though I have no confirmation) that Morelli is a much more accurate passer than Robinson (many are), and that he was actually outperforming Robinson in the preseason. JoePa, however, rewarded Robinson for sticking with the program and gave him the reigns. Also, Michael was a HUGE leader for this team. If you go back and read quotes from other players from the year before when we couldn't win to save our lives, it was apparent that the team looked to him, even though he wasn't the captain that year.

We haven't really seen Morelli, especially in anything that matters. As is typical at PSU, backup QB's rarely get to see the field except in extreme mop up time, when Joe is trying to run out the clock by calling 3 straight handoffs between the tackles with the 2nd and 3rd stringers playing against the opposing teams 1st string, and then trying to complete a desperate 4th and 15 using the same players. He gets reps in practice with the 1st string, but rarely in game situations. He is a big question mark, however, PSU has rarely been able to recruit talent of this level (#2 ranked QB nationally out of HS) at the QB position. So how bad could he be compared to past QB's? LOL Pitt fans loved him until he took back his verbal and went to PSU... now he's overrated, etc. if you listen to them. Time will tell. Actually, Morelli probably would have committed to PSU first, but he thought Henne was going there, until Henne pulled some last minute theatrics to play for Floyd and the Referines in Ann Arbor. This after telling the PSU coaches and his high school coach he was going to Penn State. Because of that, PSU backed off of Morelli, Morelli saw what was going on, and before you know it he's verbaled to Pitt.

The other thing that hasn't been mentioned is the OL play. We have had real trouble with this group the last 4-5 years. This year's group, while not world beaters, played way above expectations, and did enough. And when they didn't, Robinson bailed them out with his legs. So that is an area of concern next year with Morelli having a great arm, but not the scrambling ability (that we know of) of Robinson. If they can't keep the pocket from collapsing in 2 seconds, it'll be a long season.

And, of course, it helps to have a stable of receivers that can catch the ball and make big plays. And like WVU, they are all YOUNG, but team oriented and mature for their age. Another one of Paterno's shakeups was to actually let them play. For years, he would play upperclassmen over more talented underclassmen. There were exceptions here and there, of course, but by and large you had to pay your dues before starting. This was not a secret, especially among PSU fans. The fact that we consistently won without our best team on the field was, at times, amazing. But, the cupboard was bare the last couple of years. And I think JoePa realized that, over the years, scholarship limitations meant other schools were getting some of the talent PSU (and other schools, like Nebraska) used to "stockpile." Teams are no longer as deep as they used to be, and your backups are no longer as strong in some cases. So the dropoff between the best players and your second teamers is sometimes greater. To make matters worse, some of those kids went to "lesser" programs to increase their chances of playing time, and are now lining up across the field from you. Therefore, you can no longer play the less talented upperclassmen without a larger impact in performance on the field. This is not always the case, but happens more and more often. Also, and JoePa has admitted this, many underclassmen are more mature than in the past. They are more media savvy, and have been in the spotlight due to increased media coverage of HS sports, and the whole, bloated recruiting process. Physically, too, the kids are more gifted and more developed coming out of HS. While there is still a big difference in level of competition, many of these kids are better able to adjust to the college game. JoePa has been a little late coming around to this, but hey, better late than never. He's still not a big proponent of it (if he had his way, all freshman would still be ineligible and play on the freshman team), but I also think he has a strong desire to leave the program in good shape, and is willing to make changes in some areas, without selling his soul and bringing in academically ineligible kids, kids with too much baggage, kids who are not team players, etc.

Sorry to hijack the WVU thread I started, but you asked. wink

Since we have posters on the board that can't keep insults out of Big East threads & Sugar Bowl threads, I will post this tribute from the Sugar Bowl since the Sugar Bowl thread was deleted. Anyway, another rather funny tribute to UGA fans.

http://media.putfile.com/Sugar-Bowl-Refl

Sweet. Simply Sweet.

The only person I see hurling insults is you. Perhaps it's due to the well-deserved WVU inferiority complex. You're out of your league talking about WVU being a legitimate College Football power. Oooo, you just won the Big Least. Big whoop. The Big Least is College Football oblivion.

I'm sorry your Jayhawks are a joke in football & they are becoming a disaster in basketball. Your coach left for a better program at UNC & Kansas basketball is now laughable making the NIT if they are lucky this season.

Also, maybe your Irish ( how many teams do you have?) will win a bowl game sometime in the future ( going on almost a 15 years). There is always the NAVY game & an almost win against USC.


I can see why you are envious of WVU. Good luck with that and maaybe exanding your teams to three is in order. Good luck with that, ok?

[ January 15, 2006, 06:59 PM: Message edited by: WVUBuff ]

[/QUOTE]The only person I see hurling insults is you. Perhaps it's due to the well-deserved WVU inferiority complex. You're out of your league talking about WVU being a legitimate College Football power. Oooo, you just won the Big Least. Big whoop. The Big Least is College Football oblivion. [/QB][/QUOTE]

Last time I looked the winner of the Big "least" beat the SEC champion, basically on their home field.

Dammit people!

How many posts do I have put up on the CF threads before you realize Buffalo is college football oblivion.

btw.....video is a chuckler.

Hell, you could probably throw in pro football oblivion as well. Six straight non-playoff seasons should qualify it as the Arizona of the AFC. frown

[ January 16, 2006, 07:05 AM: Message edited by: blueraider ]

I couldn't get the damn thing to load

I'd get up to 94% buffering and then it would quit

Let's look at that game closer. Outside of the 1st quater shock-fest, the game was very even. How much of the game was WVU's emotions (Pumped up, pysched to play and feeling a little overlooked) vs. Georgia's (cocky, felt it'd be easier, felt they needed a better opponent.) WVU is a good team, but it's a long way to claim the Big East is a great conference.

Actually, WVU became passive in the 2nd quarter & 3rd quarter thinking the game was going to be a blowout and let UGA back into the game.
Our freshman let their guard down.

Our freshman will have learned from this & wont make the same mistakes again when playing in future BCS games & national championships. They will TKO their opponents from now on with no chance of a comeback.

As someone who watch Georgia play all year, they didn't have a fire in the first half, but they did in the second.

UGA only outscored WVU 14-7 in the second half & WVU was inside the 20 yard line twice & didn't score.

Also, WVU outgained UGA in the 2nd half in total yards.

As someone that watched WVU & UGA all season, the better team won in the Sugar Bowl.

Better luck to the SEC next year. Maybe they will draw an ACC team and give them their yearly BCS beatdown.

No doubt WVU is a good team. I thought they could beat Georgia, I'm not disputing that, what I'm disputing is that WVU is a whole level above Georiga.

I am not saying WVU is on another level than UGA. Actually, over th last 5 years, UGA has the better program. WVU had a coaching change from our legendary coach Don Nehlen and had a 7-5 record in 2000 (Nehlen's last year) and a 3-8 season in 2004 in RR's first season.

Since the 2001 season, WVU has won 8,9,9, & 11 games.

If you go back to the 90's, WVU was better than UGA. In the last half of the 80's, WVU was better. In the first half of the 80's, UGA was A LOT better.

All in ALL UGA like Auburn, Alabama, UT, FLordia, and LSU have tremendous football backgrounds, but there are other teams outside the SEC that play football too & the Sugar Bowl was an example of demonstrating this.

Hey CoyoteUgly, I'm surprised you never responded to this:
Kind of rich for someone who claims three programs (WVU, UT, Gonzaga hoops) of his own, two of which represent schools he never attended. Doncha think that's a tad hypocritical, Coyote?

[ January 18, 2006, 01:30 PM: Message edited by: Herr Tiggee ]

WVUBuff Wha? shu' up with such blasphemy.

Am I a bandwagon fan of Gonzaga? Absolutely. I recgonize superior basketball and the Zags program that is worthy of my attention.

I have no ties to this amazing school in Spokane. I am not Jesuit. But, being a former hoops player, I absolutely love their offensive brand of basketball. Anyone that is a real athletic and has participated would get what I am preaching.

Also, regartding WVU, I have been a fan since I even knew what college athletics was as I attended games since 6. Maybe I should post pictues of myself with Major Harris (2 time hHeisman finalist) & other Mountaineers I had taken as a kid on my visits to Morgantown from Knoxville.

Would this assist Queen Tigger and her mindless disciples and their inability to grasp complex issues beyond uniform colors, rainbow tailgates, and gameday outfits.

[ January 18, 2006, 01:51 PM: Message edited by: WVUBuff ]

You miss the point, as usual. You gave someone grief over the fact that he has multiple interests, yet you yourself have multiple teams. That's called hypocrisy.

Those darn rainbow tailgaters! Ya gotta hate it when the gays hang out and enjoy each others company! I much prefer to bash 'em and hang out with my straight buds.

Actually, I gave them "grief" after this ammuntion was hurled at me initially. So, turn about is fair game.

So, now you are crying when I play at this game?

Again, my point I have made all along on this since my inception on this board.


SOme of you CRY then the same behavior is thrown back to you. I suggest you learn how to catch if you want to post with the big boys or just leave insults out of sports all together and allow this to become a valid message board.

Either way, I'm more than happy to oblige.

wink

It's not a game you even know how to play. If you want to retliate against his comments (which is fine in my book), you should avoid throwing rocks in your glass house. I'm sure there are more creative avenues you could pursue that wouldn't leave others laughing about your hypocrisy.

And by the way, you attended UT. I think you understand the reverance people in the SEC have for tailgating. "Rainbow tailgate?" That's pretty lame. I have (and I'm sure you have as well) seen straight tailgaters with spreads so extravagant that they out-gay anything gay folks could dream of. I'm so sorry that you have no appreciation of the reverance SEC folks place upon tailgating.

But keep up that hatred you have for gays.
And lastly, have you ever considered that when your "straight buds" look at you they might picture you with a dick in your mouth? Or your butt?

You know, I spent the better part of the weekend reading the pamphlet on the history of West Virginia football.

How many National Championships?

How many Heisman Trophy winners?

Live in your bare foot dream world white trashers. When You make it to the big time, and that does not include a Big East championship, let us know.

L.O.S.E.R.S.

very positive post, and the rest of us barefoot trailer trash thank you for it because it goes to show the ignorance of some of the posters on here

I lived in West Virginia most of my life-moved away when I was about 30

never lived in a trailer during that time, had shoes, saw the dentist twice a year and my daddy never worked in a coal mine

please keep on posting these little gems of wisdom--just goes to show that the straight world doesn't have a monopoly on bigotry and stupidity

Poor Coyote UGLY.. I am certain the last word in his name is an accurate description. You almost feel sorry for poor schmucks like him that spout off.

Like T-Daddy, My father's side of the family is from West Virginia. All my relatives from West Virginia were mostly college educated, proffesional, saw the dentist with regularity, and are easy on the eyes like myself .

Obviously, I am a product of this alleged inferior gene pool that certain Rainbow clowns seem to be obsessed about &can't get over, right?


Maybe, the underlying issue is this alleged poor, economic deprived, shoeless & toothless state is & will continue to produce a superior athletic product than your beloved state's univeristy as you pray it would only attain half the succcess of WVU.. This is what the real issue is, right? Not so much the fact your university is not garnerning attention, but its product is vastly overrated with a future/destiny that pales in comparsion. Even with all the money in the world pouring into your insufficent product doesn't matter. It still falls way short of WVU.

Hell, i go to ESPN.com, Watch ESPN, pick up a Sports Illustrated, read the USA today or NYT, watch CBS. WHat do you see? You see the Flying WV & sports casters discussing WVU athletics and its players. Im sorry wealthier schools from wealthier states are lack the talent & vision and aren't worthy of the same king of attention and accomplishmens little of Little poor West Virginia is being blanketed by the media.


I make no apologies that West Virginia is a so called poor state & kicks the asses of larger financially visable programs. I love visualy witnessing the flying WV logo flying & traveling throughout the country in basketball & football on the MountainEER tour inflicting losses over the best teams in college basketball & football.


Maybe this is the real issue and you feel the need to tear down West Virginians or that you are delivering msplaced bitterness from your napolean comple all because the poor shoeless & toothless hillbillys are simply better. This has obviously irrated your overinflated visualy undesirable ass . Its evident in your post.

Here is some advice. And its free just because I am a charitable guy . Either seek proffesional assistance you with your envy issues or give up college athletics altogether. West Virginia will play for National Championships over the next 20 years. Coach Rodrieguez will continue coaching at his alma malter & make BCS wins the motto of the WVU football program. Also, Coach Belien will guide the Mountaineers to a possible Final 4 date this year after an Elite 8 run last year. I will continute to post as will other WVU fans discussing how great our teams are. If you want to throw insults, let them fly because it simply holds no substances as anyday you wont to compare aspects of life, monetary worth, and physical attributes, I think I would steer clear and stick to sports issues.

The Bottom line. Get use to discussing arguably the two best coaches and their teams. Get use to the flying Flying WV logo at BCS bowl teams & the NCAA tourney on a yearly basis. Get use to the Big East improving greatly and producing exceptional teams. Also, get use to discussing the Big East being best basketball conference in the world outside of the NBA divisions. Get use to me smack talking and laughing at posters like you as my university becomes ONE of the pinnacles of college football & basketball.

Or simply give up college athletics. The ball is in your court. Act like you know how to dribble it too. Good luck with that.


[ January 22, 2006, 10:13 PM: Message edited by: WVUBuff ]

I also lived in West Virginia for about seven years in the 70's when I was in elementary school. We were in the college (Concord) town of Athens in Mercer county, the most southern county in the state that borders Virginia. My father was an assistant coach in nearby Princeton at the high school. Some of my best memories are of the players being surrogate big brothers and taking care of me and my little brother. We would even run out on the field with the team before the game as well as hanging out in the locker room (and to a nine year future gay guy, seeing all those floppy penises damn near made me bug-eyed).

Anyway, we moved to the Tri-Cities area in southwestern Virginia where I graduated from high school and eventually made my way to Clemson in South Carolina's upstate region. I also lived in Myrtle Beach for seven years.

The point of this useless auto-biography is that I have known rednecks, white trash, black trash, and everything else in the spectrum, and West Virginia has no more of those than any other place. Actually, with all the damned tourists, I'd put Myrtle Beach at the top of ANY redneck list.

So, everyone start playing nice, or I'll hunt you all down like dawgs.

Ok, do I make the obvious incest joke, or should I let someone else do it?

Only if I can inquire if you and your family still have their raft as a decoration.

That is how all people from South Florida came to the United States, right?

If West Virginia is all that, then how come all of you guys that were born there have MOVED OUT???

And as you have stated in previous posts about a) how great WVU sports programs are, its a great academic school, c) you've been a life-long fan, then why o' why did you attend UTenn instead ?????

WVUbuff ROTFLMAO. Buff, did you even BOTHER to look at KWG's pic? If he came to Key West on a raft, he's palest cuban I've ever seen. The boy happens to be from Arkan's Ass. So, he's right up there with the rest of us southerners.

I moved to be with someone who lived in California

how many people on here are still living within a 100 miles of where they grew up--I'm guessing not too many

You mean Mr. Whitey/freckles origins aren't from Cuba? But, I assumed all people from South Florida were from the Carribean & illegals. My apologies on using an ignorant steortype. I hope I am forgiven for using such an outlandish sterotype on this board when discussing college athletics. Certainly my post had to be a first for this board.




Regarding the ASTUTE questioning of why doesn't West Virginia posters currently reside in the state, I am with T-Daddy. TarHeel, why don't you live in NC anymore? This is your home state, right? Also, I have already explained to the board why I attended University of Tennessee. Scholarship from an in state school versus paying 5-6k per semester as an out of state resident at WVU.

[ January 23, 2006, 09:11 AM: Message edited by: WVUBuff ]

I live within 200 miles of where I grew up, but it is still in the same state. My hometown was in the very Southeast corner of AL and Birmingham is in Central Alabama. You West Virginians aren't the only that has their home state stereotyped...you just have to know that, living there, you know what it is like versus stereotypes.

[ January 23, 2006, 09:16 AM: Message edited by: Aubie in Bham ]

"astute" question from me? My goodness, WVUfluffy! Did you just compliment me?

from Fluffy:
...then maybe this thread should be about the Volunteers most recent football season.

Speaking of alma malters, didn't a 2 loss Big East team spank UNC 69-14?

If a two loss Big East team can smack around your .500 ACC school, what's that say about UNC football?

It says that UNC is not a football school. And yet 9 of the 11 teams we played this season went to bowl games. Had we played a patsy Big East schedule, we probably would have been 8-3....and beaten West Vagina.

**sorry, typo**

[ January 23, 2006, 12:18 PM: Message edited by: HotlantaTarheel ]

LOL

UNC would have battled Syracuse for the cellar & UNC basketball wouldnt even be a NCAA team in the Big East. You are lucky your team plays in the ACC.

What the heck is this?

Are they trying to be the Eastern version of \"The U\"?

at least he waited until he graduated until he started pulling guns on people

dumb #!$%