I don't want to blacken the ACC thread with this thug so I decided to relegate it to its own thread.

Beamer is meeting with Vick today.

I can't find the exact terms, but wasn't he supposed to be on "probation" with Virginia Tech for the entire season as a condition of his reentering school after the drug/underage drinking/underage f--ing issues? What's this "one more misdeed" b.s.?

I didn't see a lot of the Virginia Tech game. I'm wondering if there's a clip of the Vick stomp online somewhere. Anyone know?

I agree with ESPN's Pat Forde, who wrote in a very early preview of next season's Top 25: "Until Marcus Vick gets the punk element out of his game, there is reason to doubt Virginia Tech."

It is funny you post this, oh bitchmeister of this hokiebird. I arrived home yesterday to learn that "the stomp" has created a huge firestorm in the hokie community, especially the alumni. I figured that it would just go away like many of the actions of players on other powerhouse teams in college football (you know, like, oh, damn, can't mention that team, may get slapped by the meister). But according to the Roanoke, Virginia tv stations and radio call-in shows, and according to most newspapers in the state, Vick's intentional cleating has caused a majority of the VT fans, especially alumni who give generously to the football program, to call for Vick's ouster.

An example: http://www.roanoke.com/sports/vtfootball/wb/47267

I don't think Beamer expected such an outcry. The coaches are doing a two-step trying to calm the situation, but given what I have read and in talking to lots of well-healed hokie fans, a one-game suspension is not going to satisfy them.

Actually I am proud of the fans, I would have expected more of a "oh the boys get so excited, etc.," but the reaction has been almost unanimous that Vick should be kicked off the team. That is certainly my vote. He can't last 2 more years without another incident, given his past history.

If our most recent National Title of 2001 is "ancient history", then the thug image of the 80's seems to be "prehistoric".

I'm glad the Hokie clan is outraged. It renews my faith in hillbillies. wink

[ January 06, 2006, 11:14 AM: Message edited by: KeyWest Guy ]

According to some on ESPN, VA Tech isn't sure if that one more misdeed meant off field or on. Since the "stomp" happened on the field it may not be a violation of his probation for his off field antics. Whatever!

Maybe the alumni outrage will help them decide.

Marcus Vick arrested Dec. 17th.

I think this is Baby Vick's last straw. eek!

The governor-elect was quoted saying how embarrassed he was by the stomping incident. Now the arrest. Vick is gone, if people find out that Beamer or other coaches knew of the arrest before the Gator Bowl, Beamer may be in trouble too.

Well, maybe my plans for Jacksonville in Dec., 2006, were a bit premature.

Vick permanently dismissed from the Hokies! eek!

Nice to know that KWG hangs out at classy websites like Hokiesports.com.

Interesting, and pretty gutsy by the administration. Of course the pressure from the fans and alumni (those holding the pursestrings) was really strong, then the news of the arrest comes out. I don't think they had any other choice.

So does Jim Budinski have any eligiblity left? Blacksburg is a great place to live, Jim, no smog, no traffic, lots of sheep, you could be the Ennis of the Roanoke Valley.

so when should we expect Miami to offer him a scholarship

WOW!! I've got new respect for Frank Beamer. Coker would have made him a captain for this...

Can't wait to read about him teaming up with Maurice Clarett as a modern age Jesse and Frank James. What a douche.

Maybe Marcus and Maurice Clarett can hang out now.

VT, Miami, and FSU are fine ethical universities that represent the ACC comercial boasting SPORTSMANSHIP. The ACC is turning into a joke on and off the field &courts ( literally).

[ January 06, 2006, 07:16 PM: Message edited by: WVUBuff ]

Not to mention the governor and governor-elect having to issue statements...Higher Education in Virginia is ultimately responible to the governor and legislature... The elected officials weren't happy.

Virginia Tech has been running a thug rogue program for a decade now. Teams like UVA & WVU already knew this. UVa & WVU are first class institutions that wont tolerate thugs or even recruit them. VT has known the only true way it can compete against the better established programs like UVA & WVU in the area was to turn their head to the criminal element that is similar to how FSU & Miami escalated their program.

Scott Van Pelt ESPN SportsCenter announcer who is a Maryland fan & WVU supporter is compiling info and running a story on the miscounduct and criminal element that has gotten out of hand in blackburg regarding the arrests, rapes, drug convictions, and other charges. VT athletic department has turned their heads and now its too late.

Expect some serious tidal waves at VT. Just dismissing Marcus Vick isn't enough. VT is in serious trouble along with GT, Miami, and FSU of the ACC.

It is about time...Although biased (UVA student here), I was hoping the media would finally pick up on this and approach it. My partner and I were just discussing the fact that Vick has had an accumulating record since he joined the team...He was issued a warning again and again and nothing was ever done...They did nothing after the Dec 17th issue and waited until the media picked up on it...I hope Beamer and everyone else in the Athletic Department is punished for their behavior.

This tells you how bad colleges want to win at any cost. They go out and recruit thugs like these only because of their physical ability. Does anyone really think guys like Marcus Vick or Maurice Clarett went to their respective schools to study biology or literature?

Not all Colleges Amazin. Outstanding programs like Maryland, UVA & WVU in the DC area have always run 1st class programs and doing the right ethical thing. Va tech knew back int he early 1990's the only way to compete with the above schools was to go after the bad element. It worked, but its all coming back on va Tech now.

As the Hoo fan above stated, UVA & WVU has long known about the criminal element in Blacksburg and win at any cost. Its been kept under the radar as best as possible until now and ESPN is going after the Tech program.

Consider Tech's 10 year run over with Beamer Ball offically over now.

apparently, even va tech has its limits, though they be rather loose. it seems vick has been cut loose and will turn pro.

this is the right thing for vt to do, but i get the feeling that without help marcus vick is a train wreck happening right before our very eyes...

Does Marcus Vick think NFL teams are just going to ignore his lurid past? This over-confident idiot looks like someone with a major attitude problem. I wouldn't be surprised to see him head down the "Lawrence Phillips" road. CFL, Arena or NFL Europe will be in Vick's future.

I am a Va Tech fan/alumni and I am for Vick being permanently removed from the team. Yes, he is a good quarterback but it seems like he is more of a loaded gun rather than a team player. I think we will be MUCH better off without him and we won the ACC in 2004 with Randall while Vick was off the team. I only hope the team can get control of these kids emotions and stop the personal fouls and celebration penalities. I know every team has them but the are so unneccessary and I don't feel that the coaching staff really disciplines these guys. It seems like the "Hokie Nation" stood up and said this must stop and the Tech Admin made their move.

I have read the posts from the WVU and UVa guys and I agree we have some bad apples but WVU, UVa, and UMd is not extra holy. I think that is obvious.

And furthermore Vick giving alcohol to minors really bothers me. NFL players worry so much about having a gay teammate in the same locker room. How about having a sexual predator who gets young girls drunk sharing a locker room with you? That's acceptable?

[ January 07, 2006, 05:47 AM: Message edited by: amazin12 ]

What do you mean VT should be commended for doing the right thing? Are you guys serious?

VT was forced by the Governor to make this decsision. The VT administration allowed Marcus to play in the Gator Bowl after he was arrested for the fourth time during his college career on Dec. 17th in Hampton. The VT administration kept this hush until after the Gator Bowl because of Marcus's extensive rap sheet. This is yet another example of Beamer Ball and the conduct that has has been given a green light in Blacksburg.

Scott Van Pelt did a 10 miunute story on ESPN SportsCenter last night about the criminal element in Blacksburg an win at any cost.

Its sad Va Tech Athletics has decided to even one up on Miami & FSU as the black eye of college athletics.

Somebody earlier in the thread mentioned that that had more respect for Frank Beamer because Vick has been suspended. While I don't know for sure, I have a feeling Beamer had to be really strongarmed into going along with this.

And this will go down as one of the funniest quotes of 2006:

Gotta love the cavalier attitude. This will be one of the more satisfying falls in recent memory.

Not following Va Tech football much, I have to ask a question. Let's say none of this disciplinary crap went on. Was this Vick considered a lock to be drafted? Are scouts thinking he can really play in the NFL?

I have to ultimately agree with this. I mean Vick has an extensive rap sheet and the whole stomp incident after the arrest really makes this guy seem like a loose canon. This is Virginia Marcus...still the south. Be lucky your black ass was given the second chances you got which was only because they wanted to win and were willing to turn the other cheek for awhile. This time was the last straw though and I question if he will get picked up by someone in the NFL.

Shame on ESPN for holding on to this story until now. If it was a 10 minute piece, surely it could have been done prior to the latest Vick Stomping. And why didn't they? I'm gonna guess because VaTech has been a national power all these years and they make ESPN some nice money.

The ESPN talking heads Herbie, Corso, & company pimped Vick the entire 2005 season. Finally, ESPN Sports center behind the direction of Scot Van Pelt is finally exposing the VT program. Last night before Sports center airing, as I posted on the board, Van Pelt and the co anchor are going to be airing 5-7 minute segment regarding Marcus Vick and his thuggish behavior. ESPN aired his greatest moments of 2005 when he threw a football at WVU’s safety Erick Wicks in the back of the head, elbowing a WVU assistant coach in the back of the neck on the sidelines intentionally, and using the middle finger to salute the crowd, to his latest antics of stomping on Dummervill in the Gator Bowl. Vick was told before the season, one more incident and he will be thrown out of school. Even after the Dummervill incident & his latest arrest, Beamer wasn’t going to suspend him until the pressure was built and Vick stated he wanted to go pro.


VT is merely playing damage control at this point. They have no choice. Virginia's Governor Tim Kaine publicly called out Va Tech's program. He stated young kids of Virginia are looking at these classless actions by the Tech program and the Tech players are not the role models. Also, Va Tech’s School president seems to be distancing himself from Beamer as he is baffled at Beamer for hiding Vick’s 4th arrest on December 17th.

While some are commending Va Tech for throwing Marcus off the team, it should be known that Marcus had no intention of coming back to Blacksburg. This is purely to save face and ESPN is calling Tech out for their less than ethical practices. Keep in mind, VT's administration stated if Vick was in trouble again, he was done at Tech. Beamer not only kept his 4th arrest while at Tech away from the VT administration ( Dec. 17th in Hampton), but allowed Vick to start & the thug make even more of a fool of himself by slamming on Dummervill’s leg.

Tech is getting exactly what many at UVA, MD, and WVU have known for over 10 years & its coming full circle for the Hokie program.

Way to have your head in the sand Beamer! Funny how we only see what we want to. I've never liked va tech, but I always somewhat respected Beamer for creating a good football program in a hole like Blacksburg. However, he's turned into Tom Osborne. Sure Osborne finally got his national championships, but remember the thugs he brought in to do it. Not that I think the maroon and orange ( by the way, who in the hell came up with that hideous color scheme) will ever win a national championship.

http://www.wdbj7.com/Global/story.asp?S=4329480

just remember that the fish rots from the head down--Frank Beamer is the head of the Va Wreck fish

he needs to go

he allowed this culture to develop at Va Wreck

In announcing that he's going to enter the NFL draft (gee, like he had a raft of options available...) Marcus Vick almost seemed to make his suspension from Virginia Tech sound like a positive: "I am very excited about this opportunity and look forward to proving my athletic ability at the professional level. I believe I am ready for this challenge and the next chapter of my life." He did apologize to the "Virginia Tech community" but contrition and personal responsibility were half-hearted at best. Sad.

~Adam

Just heard that Vick was arrested today on three counts of brandishing a firearm.

Busted!!!

His mother is really to blame. Did you hear the interview with her after the foot stomp? She talks like he is such a victim, and that everyone has it out for him....No wonder that he is such a train wreck. No one has ever made him take responsibility for his actions...

Well what mother is going to give an interview and admit "My baby is a royal f**k up. I sure hope tehy suspend his ass." Though it might make for a refreshing change.

Posted by ClemsonTigah (Member # 3874) on January 09, 2006, 05:20 PM:

I just saw this on the Comcast sports wire. He evidently pulled a gun on three teenagers in a McDonalds parking lot in his home town. Just when you thought he couldn't screw up any more....

http://www.comcast.net/sports/index.jsp?ca.../09/300360.html

[ January 09, 2006, 06:05 PM: Message edited by: m1 ]

from the Gator Bowl to the Va State Pen--sad

What the hell is Club Childress?

I think it's a bathhouse located here. I hear the steamroom is very active. eek!

Really? How's Willie Williams working out for ya?

Marcus Vick ought to play in NFL Europe or the CFL because here in the U.S. I'm hoping that NFL fans give him a hard time wherever he plays. Chants of "Rapist!!" and "Child molester!!" will be cascading down from the upper decks.

thanks for letting people know that the damn site plays Yellow Rose of Texas

So big brother Michael has finally spoken out publicly for the first time since Marcus' troubles. He says that Va Tech overreacted vy dismissing Marcus and that Marcus would never do anything like the stomp intentionally. He also thinks that the university should have consulted with him before dismissing Marcus.

Now I know that it's your first instinct to defend your brother and Michael may very well be saying something quite different in private. But don't treat us like we are all morons. How about not saying anything in public Michael because you can't possibly believe that stomp was an accident. Unless you are a stupid as you seem to beleive the rest of us are.


Vick Defends Vick

I read this in the paper today. I loved this quote from Ron Mexico: "He didn't do anything wrong. The world will all know when the truth comes out." Well, the player Marcus stomped said that, contrary to what Marcus said, Marcus did NOT apologize to him. Is this the "truth" that he's talking about?

Joe - I think he's talking bout the criminal charges with that statement. The quote you're referring to comes right after the description of the charges, and a sentence that says Michael believes Marcus will be exonerated. At least that's my take on it.

The stupid quote is the one near the top, when Michael says "sometimes emotions take over" and "he's (meaning Marcus) not the kind of kid that would do something like that on purpose" referring to the stomp. Does he really believe that it was an accident because Marcus was pissed? I dunno, but in my world if you get pissed and stomp on someone, it's done on purpose.

The Thugs at Tech jhust don't know when to quit with the stomp.

Thug Tech basketball team kicks the face of a Duke player tonight.

Simply amazing....

Big East thugs

So I just heard from a somewhat reliable source that VaTech has suspended another QB. That program just fell apart after the 27-7 beatdown by the Canes.

KWG, I'll watch the local news tonight and report back. I'm intrigued as hell.

I wouldn't say our football program fell apart. It's just undergoing a temporary setback!

Anyway, this link
http://hokiesports.com/football/recaps/2006032aaa.html

discusses the QB that got suspended. Just says a violation of team policy. No other details.

Josh

Might this be the reason?

Tsk, tsk, tsk.