Boltergeist
Sep 19 2003, 10:07 PM
I'll get this one kicked off with this thought, wassup with UNLV and all this TV exposure ... 3rd ESPN/2 game tonight against Hawaii
edit: I guess Robinson will want all the games on ESPN/2 as they go to 3-0 when nationally televised with a 33-22 win over Hawaii
[ September 19, 2003, 10:19 PM: Message edited by: Breesboy ]
Charlie in the Trees
Sep 19 2003, 10:53 PM
QUOTE
Breesboy:
I'll get this one kicked off with this thought, wassup with UNLV and all this TV exposure ... 3rd ESPN/2 game tonight against Hawaii
Mountain West conference teams such as UNLV are notoriously whorish about playing their games on any day, at any time, just to get them on TV.
Speaking of the UNLV game, I caught some of the Hawaii game on TV, which I didn't expect would be on here since it was played locally. I have one question to ask:
Hawaii QB Timmy Chang: where have you been all of my life?What a looker. And a pretty good QB to boot. He threw for a ton of yards in the losing effort. Of course, he threw more INT's than TD's ... which is never a good thing for a quarterback. June Jones runs a pro-style offense out there in the middle of the Pacific. Is Chang even remotely a pro prospect? Or should he just go into modeling with that moody/pouty dark good looks thing he's got going on?
BikeJocks
Sep 20 2003, 01:20 AM
QUOTE
Charlie in the Trees:
QUOTE
Breesboy:
I'll get this one kicked off with this thought, wassup with UNLV and all this TV exposure ... 3rd ESPN/2 game tonight against Hawaii
Mountain West conference teams such as UNLV are notoriously whorish about playing their games on any day, at any time, just to get them on TV.
Speaking of the UNLV game, I caught some of the Hawaii game on TV, which I didn't expect would be on here since it was played locally.
That's because the big spending johns (i.e. the networks) will only screw with the high-price call-boys (i.e. BCS conferences). Hence the non-BCS schools have to turn whatever tricks they can.
As for the UNLV-UH game, I was amazed at the crowd. I mean, it's not like the short trip down Tobacco Road for those Hawai'i fans. That was probably the most impressive turnout by a road team's fans I've ever seen. No wonder you could see the game locally - it was sold out with all those fans from the islands!
Jim
osufan
Sep 20 2003, 07:29 AM
Ohio State: Krenzel is not suposed to play today - injured his hand last week.
All you Ohio State Haters have increased hope for an OSU loss !!
Boltergeist
Sep 20 2003, 01:19 PM
Kansas St. has become Jan Brady left to just say this after their national title hopes may have been thwarted .....
"Marshall, Marshall, Marshall"
ECHusker
Sep 20 2003, 01:24 PM
Coach Snyder and the Kitty Cats are back to chasing their tails rather than a national championship.
Nice job Marshall!
gamecock
Sep 20 2003, 02:50 PM
QUOTE
Breesboy
Kansas St. has become Jan Brady left to just say this after their national title hopes may have been thwarted....\"Marshall, Marshall, Marshall\"
Their national title hopes MAY have been thwarted, Breesboy?....with their cupcake schedule (speaking of non-conference games, of course - Troy State, McNeese State, UMass?

) there's not a chance in hell of the Mildcats playing in New Orleans now no matter what they do the rest of the way....if I had a vote in the polls, I'd drop em out of the top 25 completely (even though I'm sure that won't happen -- but look for them to fall at least 10-12 slots tomorrow).
Bill Snyder may deserve a lot of credit for turning around the once laughing-stock program in Manhattan, KS but he's GOT to schedule more competitive opponents if he expects KSU to be taken seriously as a consistent Top-10 team (taking nothing away from Bob Pruett and Marshall, who have demonstrated the caliber of their athletes and the impact that outstanding coaching can have on a "mid-major" program for quite a few years now).
[ September 20, 2003, 02:51 PM: Message edited by: gamecock ]
Boltergeist
Sep 20 2003, 03:27 PM
Well, well, well .... 24-21 Oregon here in the 4th 9:00 left, and now most of the country gets to see the end (good move ABC). Chris Perry for Heisman .... RIIIIIGHT!
edit: Oregon up 31-21 after blocked punt, Duckboys and Buckeyes across the country smile.
[ September 20, 2003, 03:33 PM: Message edited by: Breesboy ]
theodoresdaddy
Sep 20 2003, 03:33 PM
QUOTE
Breesboy:
Kansas St. has become Jan Brady left to just say this after their national title hopes may have been thwarted .....
\"Marshall, Marshall, Marshall\"
LOL
Marshall played Tennessee tough--the same Tennessee team that beat Florida today.
Just hope my Eers don't lose too bad today.
Boltergeist
Sep 20 2003, 03:53 PM
for long suffering Jayhawks fans here a little something to make you smile
Kansas beat UNLV
UNLV beat Toledo
Toledo beat Marshall
...and we all know what Marshall did today
BikeJocks
Sep 20 2003, 05:33 PM
I can't wait to read David's summary of today. This may have been the most exciting week of college football I've ever seen.
Jim
azairforce
Sep 20 2003, 05:38 PM
some great games today, I think its time to say Marshall is one hell of a football program!! Hats off to Marshall
Boltergeist
Sep 20 2003, 05:43 PM
Thank god for the last channel viewed button on the remote since I was flipping between Georgia-LSU (this one shoulda been on primetime) and Michigan-Oregon ..... what does everyone think of Iowa now (could they repeat as Big 10 champs?) 21-2 over Arizona St. in the 4th
and Northern Illinois is playin with a cup of ambition, down "9 to 5" in Tuscaloosa
gamecock
Sep 20 2003, 05:47 PM
Some exciting finishes again today as a few more "elite" teams get knocked from the unbeatens....Ohio State may have a long winning streak (what is it at now - 19 games?) and even though Krenzel was out with an injury today I gotta believe that all these close calls against inferior opponents will catch up with em once they have to face some tough Big 10 competition.
I, too, am impressed with Iowa -- everyone figured they'd be a mediocre team this season but it looks like Kirk Ferentz is doing another masterful job, despite fielding a young, largely inexperienced squad....it's funny you talked about hitting the "last channel viewed" button on your remote over and over again, Breesboy, because I was doing the exact same thing -- Michigan and Georgia (both of whom I picked to win in the Outsports weekly contest

) had their chances down the stretch (especially the Wolverines after they recovered that onside kick) but couldn't convert....you've got to give credit to Oregon and LSU, though, for hanging in there when it counted -- very impressive.
Fisher Deberry's Air Force Falcons are off to a good start again (4-0), even though their defense keeps giving up a ton of points....their small QB Chance Harridge has got to be one of the toughest players in the country, pound-for-pound, considering the beating he takes on just about every play.
[ September 20, 2003, 05:55 PM: Message edited by: gamecock ]
Boltergeist
Sep 20 2003, 06:58 PM
FINAL - Northern Illinois 19, Alabama 16 (the Auburn fans maybe cracking their first smile of the year)... if NIU is NOT in the Top 25 next week it is a sham ...
gamecock I happened to go 2 for 2 on those games, picking LSU AND Oregon
and the MAC may have another upset in them .... Pitt leads Toledo 31-28 with 7 minutes left.
[ September 20, 2003, 06:59 PM: Message edited by: Breesboy ]
osufan
Sep 20 2003, 07:21 PM
I expect Michigan to drop FAR especially since Notre Dame keeps losing so Michigan's win over N.D. last week loses luster. Pittsburgh should also drop.
Bowling Green was the NBR 1 team in offense in the country going into today's game, and Ohio State wins anyway !
Michigan sux !
Notre Dame sux !
Boltergeist
Sep 20 2003, 07:29 PM
The greatest day in MAC football history?????
(home teams in CAPS)
Marshall 27, K-STATE 20
Miami (O) 41, COLORADO ST. 21
Northern Illinois 19, ALABAMA 16
TOLEDO 35, Pitt 31
Mariner Duck Guy
Sep 20 2003, 07:31 PM
I am drained, and I have no voice. I'm so proud of the Ducks. I had NO DOUBT in my mind that they were going to beat Meeechigan. I just had a hunch they were going to win.
Too bad the Ducks didn't wear the "Lightning" yellow uniforms (they had a little problem with the colors bleeding).
Their motto for this year? "FINISH". They lived up to the motto today. GO DUCKS!!!!
And way to go Marshall!
Purdue Fan
Sep 20 2003, 07:45 PM
QUOTE
Breesboy:
The greatest day in MAC football history?????
(home teams in CAPS)
Marshall 27, K-STATE 20
Miami (O) 41, COLORADO ST. 21
Northern Illinois 19, ALABAMA 16
TOLEDO 35, Pitt 31
Can you imagine if Bowling Green had pulled it out against OSU? There would be nothing else to talk about in college sports for months!
Herr Tiggee
Sep 20 2003, 09:19 PM
A Bama loss is the same as an Auburn win, any week of the season in my book. I'm still giddy that they lost, and to NIU makes it all the more delicious. Bama looked dreadful!
Other observations -
With KSU losing to Marshall, and Colorado humbled by FSU, how weak is the Big 12 North? The north champ appears destined to a crushing at the hands of Oklahoma in the Big 12 title game.
Florida looked confused and unfocused. The Gators were outcoached and outplayed. The UGA press is already talking about the LSU loss as a "moral" victory. Uh, yeah, but they lost. The SEC East is now UT's to win or lose. Time will show whether the Vols are for real or not. Personally, what I've seen shows that the balance of power in the SEC has shifted to the Western division (Ark and LSU as frontrunners).
Ohio State is a sham, a joke, and ripe for two losses before the end of the season. Their O-Line is horrible. Although the Wolverine loss will cause a poll tumble, Michigan still appears a better squad than the Buckeyes. Iowa crushed the preseason consensus #2 team in the Pac-10. And I wouldn't be surprised to see UM win the Big 10, with Iowa the runner up, and Ohio State limping into the #3 slot. Have fun at the bowl in Tampa, OSU. You will earn it.
RazorbackTX
Sep 20 2003, 09:27 PM
QUOTE
Mariner Duck Boy:
I am drained, and I have no voice. I'm so proud of the Ducks. I had NO DOUBT in my mind that they were going to beat Meeechigan. I just had a hunch they were going to win.
Too bad the Ducks didn't wear the \"Lightning\" yellow uniforms (they had a little problem with the colors bleeding).
Their motto for this year? \"FINISH\". They lived up to the motto today. GO DUCKS!!!!
And way to go Marshall!
Congrats, what a great win for the Ducks.
osufan
Sep 20 2003, 09:40 PM
QUOTE
AU Tiger in LA:
Although the Wolverine loss will cause a poll tumble, Michigan still appears a better squad than the Buckeyes.
LOL ! Just like I said few weeks ago: Ohio State close win = a loss. Other teams lose = doesn't matter, it really should be a win ?!?
Ohio State is still undefeated and the defending champs go bucks !
Purdue Fan
Sep 20 2003, 10:28 PM
QUOTE
Mariner Duck Boy:
I am drained, and I have no voice. I'm so proud of the Ducks. I had NO DOUBT in my mind that they were going to beat Meeechigan. I just had a hunch they were going to win.
I thought I heard a Duck Boy quacking around here! Congrats on the win, it was quite a game. I thought (and hoped, being a Big 10 guy) that Michigan was going to pull it out in the end. As it looks today, it will be Oregon v. USC for the Pac10. ASU was hardly impressive today. Washington is picking up steam, but both they and Wazzu are really inconsistent. And Oregon State is looking really bad. Others are not worth mentioning (except for a brief mention of AZ, which is a whipping boy for everyone, including my favorites today

)
[ September 20, 2003, 10:30 PM: Message edited by: Purdue Fan ]
theodoresdaddy
Sep 20 2003, 11:23 PM
My question is--can anyone beat Oklahoma?
I watched them humiliate UCLA
and my Eers bit the dust bigger than crap
SmoothRon
Sep 21 2003, 12:13 AM
Of the remaining currently ranked Top 10 teams, Ohio State will be the first to lose a game this season, and you can quote me on that. They still have a very underrated Iowa team that they have to play at home, and they have Wisconsin and Michigan on the road!! eek! Can we say two, maybe three losses, before the end of the season?
BikeJocks
Sep 21 2003, 12:52 AM
QUOTE
SmoothRon:
Of the remaining currently ranked Top 10 teams, Ohio State will be the first to lose a game this season, and you can quote me on that. They still have a very underrated Iowa team that they have to play at home, and they have Wisconsin and Michigan on the road!! eek! Can we say two, maybe three losses, before the end of the season?
Florida State - Miami is coming up soon, so if OSU's luck continues to hold out, they won't be the next.
Jim
osufan
Sep 21 2003, 06:40 AM
Ohio State and luck....yeah, other teams are LUCKY Krenzel is injujred and Clarrett hasn't played ! Oh wait, that would be bad luck for OSU but I guess that kind of luck doesn't matter.
As far as Wisconsin, didn't they lose to a community college last week ? And of course MeatChicken lost to........ I can't stop laughing.
Herr Tiggee
Sep 21 2003, 06:58 AM
OSU, I'm not chalking any of the Buckeyes wins up to "luck" or anything else. But objective viewers from outside the Big 10 are watching your boys and Michigan and are almost uniformly drawing the same conclusion - OSU does not appear to be as solid as Michigan this season. Which is why I, and countless others, are prediciting two losses for OSU, maybe three if the wheels come off the wagon (but that's a worse case scenario).
exfballplayer
Sep 21 2003, 08:04 AM
Breesboy:
First off, if Michigan had not abandoned the running game, Michigan would have won this week, because Oregon is TERRIBLE against the run. But once Michigan committed to the pass, Oregon had it made. If you dont believe me, just take a look at Michigan's pass to run ratio. TOTALLY the opposite of what Michigan has done in their wins. Just goes to show you why you should always "GO WITH WHAT YOU DO BEST." Perry IS a Heisman candidate, and will be all year as long as Michigan uses their running game to set up their passing attack. Michigan abandoned this early, and you see what happened.
OK!! Here is the rest of my overview of this whole weekend of College Football. ESPN's Bill Curry said it best, "In all my years associated in College Football, never have I witnessed a month of September like what I have witnessed this year." I said in the beginning of the year that there would be one 1-loss team playing for the National Championship. Well, hell it looks like their may be 2 one-loss teams playing!!! LOL I have touched upon the Michigan loss, but I guess if you take a look at Michigan's road record against the PAC-10, you would not be surprised by the outcome. Michigan is now 0-5 in their last 5 road games against the PAC-10. And Lord PLEASE send a GAY MAN to OREGON so they can DISCARD THOSE AWFUL UNIFORMS!!!! I had a hard time watching that game because those uniforms were hard on my eyesight!!! Ohio State, actually looked better without QB Craig Krenzel this week. That is not to suggest that Krenzel should not start, because he should. But even though Ohio State struggled a little against Bowling Green; they looked more impressive today. The thing that really gets me is this. Sports commentators and "experts" heaped up more praise on Michigan in a loss, than they did upon Ohio State in a win!!! What is up with that? By the way, Ohio State's winning streak is at 18 games. However, I do not believe that the OSU win streak will survive this year. Michigan will fall in the polls, but they more than likely will not fall out of the top 10. If they do, it will be to #11 or #12. The most impressive Big 10 team this weekend, is easily Iowa. Iowa hosted an Arizona State team that some have picked to win the PAC-10. NOT!!! Arizona State, and their much overrated QB Andrew Walter just collapsed, and self destructed as Iowa just completely dominated the Sun Devils, 21-2. If anyone doubted that Arizona State was overhyped, and Iowa underrated, well you received your proof last night. Speaking of over-hyped teams, Notre Dame continued to show why they will not be in BCS bowl consideration this year, or in bowl consideration at all this year. Coach Tyrone Willingham is not making the type of impact that the Fighting Irish had expected, and do not be surprised if you do not hear the calls for his resignation as his team struggles along this year. We all knew their offense was stagnant, but now the Irish defense is starting to play just as bad. Next week they have Purdue, and do not be surprised to see Purdue hand the Irish another butt thrashing!!!! And for Badger fans, I have to say that I was impressed with the way Wisconsin QB Jim Sorgi lead Wisconsin back to a victory Saturday after last week's terrible performance against UNLV. If Sorgi continues to put forward that type of playing effort, Wisconsin just might finish in the top 4 in the Big Ten.
In the Big 10, Colorado continued their downward spiral, OU's special teams and QB Jason White had a great day, Texas rebounded against Rice, and Kansas State learned a very hard lesson. Florida State QB Chris Rix really shut down his critics with his performance yesterday, as Florida State taught Colorado a lesson in why you do not want to play Florida State at home. Colorado is now reeling, and they need to get their act together heading into conference play. OU QB Jason White showed Saturday why he should be a genuine Heisman Trophy candidate, and if I had to pick a player today, White would get my Heisman trophy vote. However, OU is not invincible, so do not be surprised if Texas A&M, or Oklahoma State, or some other Big 12 team does NOT rise up to beat OU. OU fans should NOT become over confident, because the upset bug is alive and kicking, and OU's time will come. It is just a matter of who will do it and when, not if. Maybe Mack Brown will finally get his win over Oklahoma? Well, stranger things can happen as this year's NCAA football has already proven. Oh, one last thing about the OU game. If I am the head coach at UCLA, I WOULD RUN MY SPECIAL TEAMS UNIT INTO THE GROUND COME MONDAY. Make them spend the whole practice on Monday doing nothing but running and LOTS of PUSHUPS. Their pathetic performance against a good OU special teams unit was enough to make coaches everywhere just cringe. Ok, enough said on that. Oklahoma State's Rashaun Woods shattered NCAA single game TD's records, catching a record 7 TD's against SMU yesterday. Texas rebounded against a poor Rice team, and I hate to say that about my former head coach's team, but they really looked bad against Texas. Kansas State learned today why you do not want to play only power puff teams, because your players don't take the preparations seriously, and teams like Marshall can leap up and pull you down. Kansas State has now lost a serious amount of respect, and will be lucky if they stay in the Top 25. If anyone thinks that Kansas State can come back from this loss, and seriously compete for a National Championship, well they must be living in a fantasy world, because the BCS computer is going to eat Kansas State up and spit them back out after this loss.
In SEC, Tennessee's defense, along with gutsy play by QB Casey Claussen showed Florida why the Vol's are expected to win the SEC East. This was probably one of the better played games on Saturday, not disappointing fans at all. In LSU land, a very unimpressive LSU team beat out another unimpressive Georgia team. This game was really poorly played all around. The only bright spot I saw in the whole game for LSU, was QB Matt Mauck. He was impressive in the way that he kept fighting back, but I have to say that if both LSU and Georgia continue to play this level of football, neither team will be in the SEC Championship game come December. I saw above where someone said that the Georgia/LSU game should have been prime time? Give me a break!!!!! Georgia has a bye week this week to rest up, and hopefully come out looking a lot sharper against Alabama 0n October 4th. LSU gest Mississippi State next, and they should be able to pound away at the hapless Bulldogs. And what about Alabama? I guess Northern Illinois showed Saturday why the victory against Maryland was NOT a fluke. Alabama needs to rebound quick, as they get the SEC's #1 rushing attack in Arkansas next weekend.
Miami looked very impressive tonight against Boston College. This Miami team put together an all around impressive outing, with Special Teams and the Defense stepping up to show why Miami can score from just about any position.. If there is an undefeated team that plays for the National Championship, it just may be the Hurricans from Miami. While I do believe that Miami will go down with a 1-game loss, Miami just might prove me wrong. Pittsburg, well I just do not know quite what to say about that game, except that the MAC conference had one hell of a weekend. I think that the MAC conference is out to prove a point, that overlooking certain conferences just to make the top 6 more powerful, just is NOT fair to conferences that are viewed as minor nothings in the NCAA. The NCAA needs to stand up, and take notice that the MAC deserves a fair shot at BCS bowl consideration. Those are my thoughts for this week, and I am sure that several of you will have opinions to voice after reading my overview, so me hear what ya have to say!!!
GO HAWGS!!! (3-0)
Exfballplayer
David
[ September 21, 2003, 10:14 PM: Message edited by: exfballplayer ]
exfballplayer
Sep 21 2003, 08:38 AM
OSU fan:
Bud, be careful how loud you laugh, because I hate to see what happens when Ohio State loses this year. And they will lose, probably to either Iowa, or Michigan, or maybe both. Both teams have been far more impressive than Ohio State has been this year. I learned long ago to be gracious in winning, because people will remember that reaction, when they go to rub in your school's losses. While I totally understand the urge to be obnoxious in victory, it rarely wins any converts over to your belief that Ohio State is the best in the land. I believe that the Big Ten says that they have "The Best fans in College Football, before, during, and after the game." Well, rubbing in Wisconsin and Michigan losses is hardly what I would call appropriate behavior. As far as that goes, Wisconsin lost to UNLV, who went on to beat the #1 Offensive team in Hawaii yesterday, so I would not consider that UNLV loss as bad as it appeared last weekend. And Michigan, well be very careful because Michigan DOES have a better team than Ohio State this year, and I would hate to see how people would treat you if Ohio State loses to Michigan.
I totally understand the need to celebrate your team's success so far, and you should celebrate them. But take a piece of advice that was passed on to me, and my teammates during our collegiate careers. "Be tempered in your celebration, and your defeats will not be so hard to carry." Something that my former Head Coach Ken Hatfield taught us about winning.
Exfballplayer
David
ECHusker
Sep 21 2003, 08:57 AM
Boomer Sooners look awesome, but a bad day for the Big 12 north. However, this Husker fan is not crying any tears for Kansas State and Colorado.
The excuses coming from the K-State fans on other message boards are nothing short of hilarious.
Sometimes my Connecticut friends get confused about the "2 years on, 2 years off" schedule between Big 12 North and Big 12 South teams.
They ask, "when you playing Oklahoma?". I tell them Nebraska doesn't play the Sooners this season, (whew!) but will return to the "2 years on" schedule next season.
However, after seeing Kansas St. and Colorado yesterday, now I know Nebraska WILL play Oklahoma this year too...in the Big 12 championship!
If Nebraska ever figures out how to step up on offense, we're gonna be great.
Remember this name: Joe Dailey. He's NU's freshman QB sensation and you WILL be seeing him more this season. He's easy on the eyes too. Not as easy on the eyes as Eric Crouch...that's a whole 'nother story...
GO BIG RED!
NorCalHusker
Sep 21 2003, 09:09 AM
osufan:
I think we need to move you past the "everyone's picking on my buckeyes" phase.

They're not! OSU just won an NC. As I've said repeatedly, they WILL be held to a higher standard now than when OSU was going 8-4 or 9-3. That's just the way it works. Again, if you and the buckeyes don't want that scrutiny, there are about 116 other teams that would gladly take your place. OSU just has not looked that impressive in their wins so far this year; I'd think that even most buckeye fans would have to admit that.
As for BGSU having the #1 offense in the country prior to Saturday, that's a great stat to keep in your back pocket, but speaking from experience, no one but other buckeye fans will listen or care. Is Ball State better than most people's perception? Probably. Will a buckeye fan spouting stats to support that opinion sway any non-buckeye's opinion? Probably not.
I can remember in '97 when Nebraska trailed a Duante Culpepper led Central Florida team by 17-14 at half. Even though Nebraska went on to win 38-24, the Huskers dropped in the polls from #2 to #3 because they didn't win big enough. It didn't matter that Culpepper was a 1st round draft choice; Nebraska was still expected to win bigger against a no-name school like UCF.
In '99, Nebraska barely beat Southern Miss (20-16) at home. Does it matter that Southern Miss had one of the nation's best defenses that year? Nope. Nebraska needed to win more impressively against a no-name school like Southern Miss. So Nebraska dropped from 4th to 6th.
It just comes with the territory. You'll get through it. Besides, I think the other MAC teams did a lot of your talking for you. And it sounds a LOT better coming from them! (No offense meant to either UCF or Souther Miss, both of whom have made more of a name for themselves since the late 90's!)
[ September 21, 2003, 09:19 AM: Message edited by: NorCalHusker ]
osufan
Sep 21 2003, 10:11 AM
Just for the record I don't think Ohio State is unbeatable !
But when you talk about our archrival Michigan, it's funny how people make excuses for them in a loss. If they're so great they shouldn't have lost, and they deserve to be dropped in the polls, BEHIND Ohio State. Losing is WORSE than winning a close game, even in the BCS people's minds, unless I'm missing something. Saying Michigan is still BETTER than other teams is just opinions, or sour grapes.
NorCalHusker
Sep 21 2003, 10:25 AM
Yes, it's just "opinions." And that's exactly what a "poll" is: a compilation of people's opinions. Does OSU deserve to be ranked ahead of Michigan right now? Yes, in my opinion they do (they're undefeated, Michigan is not). Does that mean I think OSU will beat Michigan? No, in my opinion based on what I've seen so far, Michigan will beat OSU this year. But it's a loooong season.
PCC
Sep 21 2003, 02:29 PM
The next AD from a major conferernce who schedules a game against a MAC team should be fired.
BikeJocks
Sep 21 2003, 03:10 PM
QUOTE
PCC:
The next AD from a major conferernce who schedules a game against a MAC team should be fired.
Hmmm.... last year the MAC was considered a mid-major that the BCS conferences should avoid because they weren't "big enough." Now, the MAC is to be considered "too tough"? So I guess you'll have to make your patty-cake schedules from the SEC, Big 10 and Big 12. It sounded like the ESPN folks were calling for the MAC to replace the Big East in the BCS pool.
Fear the MAC!
And even though UCF didn't win against Syracuse, they did win something that will last in people's memories for a long time - the new Miss America is Ericka Dunlap, a student at UCF!
Jim
(who really couldn't care less about Miss America, but after Saturday, UCF needed something to cheer about)
[ September 21, 2003, 03:11 PM: Message edited by: BikeJocks ]
exfballplayer
Sep 21 2003, 10:08 PM
Hey Guys:
HOLD IT!!!! I do not like what I am seeing here. You are saying that AD's should now avoid the MAC Conference because they can hang with the top conferences? COME ON!!! That is pathetic!!!! I am sorry, I come from the old school where real teams prove that they are #1, the best of the best by actually BEATING THE BEST TEAMS, not running away from them. That is just pathetic, and I will stand from the tallest mountain in this country and scream that. Anyone disagrees? Bring it on!!! It is one of the things that I love best about the NFL. The Super Bowl Champs are alligned with the toughest schedule for the coming year. That is how CHAMPIONS are proven. If Athletic Directors start acting like Kansas State, it will be the ruin of College Football. COME ON people. One of the things that has always made me look up to college programs like Notre Dame and Florida State, and Miami (FL) is that they went out and scheduled TOUGH non-conference opponents. That is what made those championship teams so special is the fact that beat truly good opponents. For all the criticism that Ohio State has been nailed with, I have to give them credit, as they have went out and added toughness to their non-conference schedule. Yes, they do have a few panzy teams, but adding opponents like Washington State and North Carolina State, that adds credibility to your team wins.
I hope to God that Athletic Departments do NOT follow the advice voiced in a couple of postings on here. Athletic Directors at schools like FSU, Ohio State, Miami, Tennessee, Iowa and now Arkansas should be commended for adding tough opponents to their schedules. Some of them have a way to go before they reach where they should be with their schedules - but they are headed in the right direction.
David
Exfballplayer
GatorJamie
Sep 22 2003, 04:26 AM
QUOTE
Mariner Duck Boy:
I am drained, and I have no voice. I'm so proud of the Ducks. I had NO DOUBT in my mind that they were going to beat Meeechigan. I just had a hunch they were going to win.
Congrats!
DCBucky
Sep 22 2003, 05:38 AM
QUOTE
exfballplayer:
You are saying that AD's should now avoid the MAC Conference because they can hang with the top conferences? COME ON!!! That is pathetic
David -- I absolutely agree -- for heaven's sake, if Kansas State can't beat Marshall at home -- what are they gonna do against the likes of Texas or Oklahoma? If Maryland can't win in DeKalb, Illinois, they'll never stand a chance in Tallahassee.
as for MDB -- I'll second, or third, the congrats. ABC finally switched over to the Oregon-Michigan game from the FSU-Colorado romp in the 4th Q so we were able to witness the fun.
exfballplayer
Sep 22 2003, 08:34 AM
Mariner Duck Boy:
Hey bud, I am glad that you knew Oregon was going to win, I just wish you had let me in on it before I stuck my neck out there on Michigan!!! LOL Seriously, I, like so many others, had no clue that Oregon would be able to hang with Michigan the whole time. I guess part of that is due to the rest of the country never getting a chance to see PAC-10 teams play. However, I do think that my fellow AP pollsters got a little to happy about Oregon's win, shooting them all the way from #22 to #10. I think they deserved a Top 15 spot, but not a Top 10, not yet anyway. I would have made them win at least one more game before giving them that honor. I placed Oregon at #13 on my poll entry. But Oregon is to be congratulated, as they forced Michigan to completely jump off their game plan. By the way, can you PLEASEEEEEEEEEE do something about those uniforms? LOL
David
Exfballplayer
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Mariner Duck Guy
Sep 22 2003, 08:49 AM
Thanks for all the congrats...too bad I had nothing to do with the team except my undying loyalty! Seriously, time to put this victory away and focus on the Cougs. This game is a concern to me because I think it's easy to overlook the Cougars. Luckily it's at home. The Cougs, though, always play well at Autzen. Could be another shoot out.
David, yeah, I completely agree with you. As I posted in the other thread, I have the Ducks around 14-15. Autzen is an incredible place to play. It is loud & obnoxious (and I'm not talking about the team & now the marching band's uniforms!). It only seats about 54,000, but the way it is built, the noise is right on you. It's like someone standing right behind you shouting in your ear. It's THAT loud. The game should be on TV this weekend. GO Ducks!
Now, who will the MAC knock off this week? Miami? Iowa State? Syracuse? Boston College?
pittkid
Sep 22 2003, 10:58 AM
Oooo....
New NCAA ad slogan: Fear the MAC!!!!!
Congrats to Oregon (I agree with most though, do SOMETHING with the uniforms)!!!!
I'd say more but I'm still recovering from the ya know.... that.... damn it..... Pitt blew it.... oh I may..... cry..... oh sniff sniff....
at least Purdue pounded Arizona....
a saddened pittkid