Action starts on September 16th. First a few weeks against the patsies from the Patriot league, then the Ivy heats up.

As a quick reminder, the Ivy league is:
Brown Bears
Columbia Lions
Cornell Big Red
Dartmouth Big Green
Harvard Crimson
Pennsylvania Quakers
Princeton Tigers
Yale Bulldogs

I have to admit, even with an ivy degree, I don't really pay attention to Ivy League Football. I think I went to one game at Cornell many years ago though. All that I really remember is the kicker was in my math class in high school.

I'll be sure to keep track through this thread this season.

The Cornell Big Red are 5-time National Champions, including 3 consecutive years.

Who would have thunk it, we're actually discussing amateur sports in the college football board!

Princeton was national champion in:
1869, 1870, 1872, 1873, 1874, 1875, 1877,
1878, 1879, 1880, 1881, 1884, 1885, 1886,
1889, 1893, 1894, 1896, 1898, 1899, 1903,
1906, 1911, 1920, 1922, 1933, 1935, and 1950.

[ September 09, 2006, 03:43 PM: Message edited by: golfer 23 ]

I am not suggesting that your Princeton education (just an assumption given your posting) has not served you well, but I have issue with some of your dates.

From the 2006 Cornell Football Media guide (obviously no bias), Cornell's National Championships occurred 1915, 1921, 1922, 1923, and 1939.

I am unwilling at this time to share a National Championship with Princeton in 1922.

In 1922, Princeton shared the championship in two polls, one with Cal and one with Cornell, and was outright champ in two others.

California: Houlgate, National Championship Foundation*
Cornell: Helms, Parke Davis*
Iowa: Billingsley
Princeton: Boand, Football Research, National Championship Foundation*, Parke Davis*

BTW, this is an interesting site:
http://www.ncaa.org/champadmin/ia_football...ast_champs.html

[ September 12, 2006, 12:02 AM: Message edited by: golfer 23 ]

I knew it was something like this, but I still will not acknowledge Princton as sharing the National Title in 1922.

Saturday's great Ivy action features the following contests with my predicitions based almost entirely on no insight:

San Diego 17 @ Yale 13
Fordham 32 @ Columbia 27
Holy Cross 14 @ Harvard 17
Penn 24 @ Lafayette 10
Georgetown 10 @ Brown 21
Princeton 17 @ Lehigh 10
Dartmouth 22 @ Colgate 31
Cornell 1 million @ Bucknell 0

Division I-AA at its (almost) best.

[ September 14, 2006, 01:38 PM: Message edited by: jsieds ]

Cornell is the last Division I school to begin its football season.

SLURP.

(Sorry...was checking out jsieds' profile.)

I'd love to go to an Ivy game. Have tons of friends who went to Princeton, Yale, Harvard, Princeton, etc. Pined wickedly for MONTHS a couple years ago for a man who went to Cornell. The man that got away...

Are cocktails involved?

GO DUCKS!
Rob

[ September 14, 2006, 10:08 PM: Message edited by: weirdblackdog ]

Harvard, Brown Appear Early Favorites
By Olivia Dwyer
Sun Sports Editor
Sep 15 2006

Parity is the catchword in collegiate athletics these days — and Ivy League football is no exception. After Brown claimed its first outright Ivy title in 2006, it faces the challenge of another first in its quest for back-to-back titles. Standing between the Bears and the league crown is Harvard, Penn, and the local favorite, Cornell. Left out of the contenders’ battle is Yale and Princeton, who seem headed for the lower half of the standings, joining recent perennial cellar-dwellars Columbia and Dartmouth.

Harvard Crimson
2005: 7-3, 5-2 Ivy
After a second-place finish in 2005, Harvard is the media darling in the preseason polls, with most observers choosing the Crimson to claim the crown for the first time since 2001. Harvard was the only Ancient Eight team to beat Brown during its championship run a year ago, and only a triple-overtime loss to Yale in the last game of the season kept the Crimson from claiming a share of the title. Cornell was the only other conference team to top the Crimson in 2005, as the Red scored 27 points to Harvard’s 14 at Schoellkopf Field for the Red’s first victory over a nationally-ranked Division I-AA team in program history. The showdown between 2005 champs and 2006 favorite will be the first contest on the schedule, as the Crimson face the Bears in Providence, R.I., on Sept. 23.

Key returnee: Senior running back Clifton Dawson is the one to watch this year, as he takes a charge at Ed Marinaro’s ’72 career rushing mark of 4,715 yards, a league record. Dawson was a preseason first-team All-American selection by The Sporting News, and holds every single-season and career rushing record that Harvard keeps. He is also the leader among active Divison I-AA players in career rushing and all-purpose yards.

Brown Bears
2005: 9-1, 7-1
The Bears have the opportunity to repeat as league champions for the first time in school history, but this could prove to be a challenge without the services of Ivy League Player of the Year, running back Nick Hartigan, who was lost to graduation. The Bears were ranked No. 15 in the nation at the end of last season, and led the league in scoring offense with 36.8 points per game. Brown also proved effective at protecting its lead, as the Bears turned over the ball just once per game, the best mark in the league.
Key returnee: While Hartigan paved the way for the Bears by leading the offense last year, this year’s oustanding player will come from the defensive side of the ball. Senior linebacker Zak DeOssie, an All-American and two-time first-team All-Ivy selection, will be the first line of defense as the Bears seek to hold onto their crown. DeOssie is on the watchlist for the Buck Buchanan Award as the nation’s top division I-AA defensive player.

Cornell Big Red
2005: 6-4, 4-3
After two rebuilding years, head coach Jim Knowles ’87 and the Red are ready to challenge for the Ivy title. Cornell had an unprecedented offense in 2005, as Ryan Kuhn ’06 became the first quarterback in school history to rush for over 1,000 yards. The offense will take a different look this year behind the arm of sophomore quarterback Nathan Ford, who completed 14-of-25 passes for 132 yards in his rookie campaign. With four of five starters from the 2005 edition of the offensive line and the defense that has ranked No. 2 in the nation in rush defense for the past two years coming back strong once again, the Red is looking for nothing more but improvement this year.

Key returnee: Junior tailback Luke Siwula complemented Kuhn on offense last year by running for over 100 yards in six games. His total of 1,086 yards on the season ranks 10th all-time at Cornell, and was good enough for first team All-Ivy recognition.

Penn Quakers
2005: 5-5, 3-4
Tragedy took its toll on the Quakers last season, as the October suicide of running back Kyle Ambrogi ’06 delivered a blow to the program from which it could not recover. After reeling off a 5-1 record to start the season, Penn faltered against the trio that finished atop the league in the home stretch — dropping games to eventual champion Brown, second-place Harvard, and third-place Cornell on its home field to end the season. This year, the Quakers will look to rally and reclaim the league crown for the first time since 2003. Under head coach Al Bagnoli, the Quakers have never gone more than three years without a championship, meaning a failed title run this year would match their longest drought ever.

Key returnee: Senior defensive back Scott Williams, an All-Ivy honorable mention last year, returns to anchor the defense. The co-captain had 45 tackles in his junior campaign, as well as two interceptions.

Princeton Tigers
2005: 7-3, 5-2
The Tigers, who finished tied for second in the league with the Crimson last year, look poised to fall in the standings in 2006. It’s not that they’ve suffered a setback in the offseason, it’s just that other teams are that much stronger. Also, the Tigers face a brutal stretch in the middle of their schedule, as they face Brown, Harvard, Cornell, and Penn in four consecutive weekends. However, the only game they’ll have to play on the road is against the Red inside Schoellkopf Stadium, where the Red are 7-3 in the past two years.

Key returnee: Senior quarterback Jeff Terrell brings an experienced pair of hands under center for the Tigers after securing the starting spot with is 2005 performance. He scored five rushing touchdowns last year, but was vulnerable to sacks by opposing defenses.

Yale Bulldogs
2005: 4-6, 4-3
The Bulldogs were on a rollercoaster last year, failing to string together two wins in a row. The schedule this season doesn’t look to be any friendlier, as a team from the top half of last year’s standings looms every other time Yale faces a league opponent.

Key returnee: First-team All-Ivy wide receiver Ashley Wright will return for one more year of terrorizing Ancient Eight defenses. In 2005, he led the Ivy League with 61 catches, 795 yards and 10 touchdowns.

Columbia Lions
2005: 2-8, 0-7
The Lions find themselves in a rebuilding position similar to that of Cornell in 2004, but the Red’s in-state rival could find it difficult to duplicate the same kind of turnaround. Under new coach Norries Wilson, the Lions have found new optimism, scoring more points in the first 19 minutes of a preseason scrimmage against the Crimson than in the two teams’ past two meetings combined.

Key returnee: Columbia didn’t accomplish much in the Ivy League last year, but senior safety Tad Crawford managed to post 111 tackles, the best showing in the conference and the best performance by a Columbia player since 1997.

Dartmouth Green
2005: 2-8, 1-6
Another struggling program, the Green might be the one team the Lions can leapfrog this year — a reversal of fortune from last season, when Dartmouth posted its lone conference win against Columbia.

However, the Green returns 35 letterwinners and has reloaded with 33 freshmen, which help the squad shake things up in the season to come. The end of the road looks rocky, though, with the Green’s final four league games consisting of home contests against Harvard and Brown and showdowns against Cornell and Princeton on the road.

Key returnee: Senior wide receiver Ryan Fuselier adds some spark to the Green’s offense, as he was third in the league with 51 receptions for 501 yards in 2005.

Wow - what a monologue. All over beaver coats.

I enjoy porn and slurpies wink

75 % on my predictions this week(6-2). Ivy league Week 1 results:

San Diego 43
Yale 17

Fordham 7
Columbia 37

Holy Cross 14
Harvard 31

Penn 21
Lafayette 11

Georgetown 21
Brown 34

Princeton 14
Lehigh 10

Dartmouth 7
Colgate 28

Cornell 5
Bucknell 20

Single handedly keeping you informed on the greatness of Ivy League Football, I present you the Week 2 with predictions:

UNH 28 vs Dartmouth 17
Georgetown 12 vs Columbia 32
Yale 11 vs Cornell 18
Harvard 24 vs Brown 6
Lafayette 15 vs Princeton 21
Villanova 23 vs Pennsylvania 30

The week features two Ivy-on-Ivy actions, and another Georgetown loss to an Ivy.

Week 2 results in thw Ivy League (does anyone else care?):

Harvard 38, Brown 21
Yale 21, Cornell 9
UNH 56, Dartmouth 14
Columbia 23, Georgetown 21
Princeton 26, Lafayette 14
Villanova 27, Penn 20

This week I went 4-2 (season to date 10-4). My blind allegiance to the Big Red is looking kind of silly. Cornell will win next Saturday.

I care, but I have to admit I haven't followed the league nearly as closely as you clearly do. I was at HBS in the late 80's and went to several Crimson games both years. In the early 90's I went to several games, but always as a business outing with clients, so it wasn't particularly enjoyable. But in the past six years I've gone to a few games, usually with my nephews in tow, and always had a great time. It's a great atmosphere to watch a game and expose kids to the game and the traditions; the purity of the competition is sorely lacking in most other college football programs.

Students don't seem to go to Princeton games but there are lots of alums and townies. It's a fun time if you're not looking for an SEC football experience, which is what I grew up with.

I knew there were other closet Ivy League football fans out there. Week III features the following exciting contests (with my predictions):


Dartmouth 18 at Penn 21, 1 pm
Princeton 44 at Columbia 12, 1:30 pm
Brown 24 at Rhode Island 17, Noon
Harvard 37 at Lehigh 31, 1 pm broadcast on CN8
Yale 21 at Lafayette 16, 1 pm broadcast on CSTV
Albany 14 at Cornell 17, 7 pm

This week features two exciting all-Ivy matches and a few more losses by the Patriot League. Cornell will win at least one game this year, why not this week.

Week three Ivy league results:

Penn 17, Dartmouth 10
Princeton 19, Columbia 6
Rhode Island 28, Brown 21
Harvard 35, Lehigh 33
Yale 37, Lafayette 34
Cornell 23, Albany 21

I personally went 5-1 in predictions this week (15-5 season to date), with a great win by the Big Red. Princeton and Harvard remain undefeated (3-0) this season, while Penn and Yale are also undefeated in Ivy League action.

With a current capcity of 64,269, the Yale Bowl is the largest football stadium in the Ivy League. Perhaps the largest crowd to see an Ivy league football contest in the past 25 years was the 73,300 people at the Yale Bowl in 1981 to see the Yale-Harvard game. UPenn has hosted several contests with crowds over 80, 000 in the much more distant past.

The Yale Bowl is quite a place...the only time I've been there was an ugly Princeton loss, 7-3, in 40 degree gray rainy weather in 2002. I had never seen so many 3 and outs in the same game.

Yes it is...its in New Haven

The Ivy League enters Week 4.0 with these great contests and my flawless predictions:

Yale 21 at Dartmouth 9, 12:30 pm
Cornell 17 at Harvard 32, 12:30 pm
Iona 14 at Columbia 28, 12:30 pm
Brown 24 at Holy Cross 21, 1 pm
Penn 22 at Bucknell 18, 1 pm
Princeton 10 at Colgate 0, 1 pm on local Time Warner cable.

The patsies from the Patriot League lose three more games to the Ivy League this week. Since Cornell won a game last week, I no longer need to blindly predict them to win - the Crimson beat the Big Red this week.

Week 4 results:

Yale 26, Dartmouth 14
Harvard 33, Cornell 23
Columbia 24, Iona 0
Holy Cross 35, Brown 30
Penn 34, Bucknell 24
Princeton 27, Colgate 26 [ot]

This week finds me at 5-1 and 20-6 for the season to date.

Week 5 is nearly upon us with an unusual Friday night game in the Ivy League. This week's action feature's a few more losses by the Patriot League, including a win by Cornell over its ECAC hockey traveling partner. My Predictions as follows:

Friday, October 13
Brown 10 at Princeton24, 7 pm

Saturday, October 14
Columbia 22 at Penn 31, 1 pm
Lehigh 16 at Yale 24, 12:30 pm
Holy Cross 21 at Dartmouth 24, 12:30 pm
Lafayette 10 at Harvard 34, 12:30 pm
Colgate 20 at Cornell 21, 1 pm

This week's random Ivy League footbal fact. Glenn Scobey "Pop" Warner attended Cornell University, graduating in 1894 with a degree in law. While at Cornell, he played football and as captain was nicknamed "Pop" because he was older than most of his teammates. Pop Warner also coached Football at Cornell. Perhaps he is best known as the namesake of the Pop Warner Little Scholars a.k.a. Pop Warner Football (and cheerleading).

Those picks look good, but I'll go out on a limb and say Colgate beats Cornell.

The Princeton-Brown game is being broadcast on ESPNU...I may have to find a bar to watch it at.

Colgate has been very good over the past few seasons. This year is a different story with 3 losses to UMass, Monmouth, and Princeton. Colgate has an achilles heal and Cornell will exploit it.

And Week V is history with the following results:

Lehigh 20 Yale 26

Lafayette 7 Harvard 24

Holy Cross 24 Dartmouth 21

Columbia 0 Penn 16

Colgate 14 Cornell 38

Brown 3 Princeton 17

Another 5-1 week, halfway through the season at 25-7. The patsies of the Patriot League lost 3 of 4 this week as the Ivy League continued its dominance.

So much for my pick!

Colgate was nearly I-AA national champions 2 years ago. Their program is off a bit this year, much to Cornell's gain last weekend.

Week 6 - All Ivy Action

No more out of conference games for the remainder of the season. Currently 4 teams share first place at 2-0 and four teams share last place at 0-2. The schedule creates excitement as there will only be 2 unbeaten teams in the Ivy league after this weekend, and 2 teams in the cellar at 0-3. Games and my highly reliable predictions:

Undefeated Match-Ups
Penn 16 at Yale 14
#15 Harvard 29 at #21 Princeton 24

Winless Match-Ups
Dartmouth 12 at Columbia 24
Cornell 24 at Brown 16


As an added bonus, Harvard and Princeton are both undefeated in all games thus far and ranked in the top 25 Divsision I-AA.

Princeton beats Harvard for the second year in a row!! Who knows, maybe there will be a bonfire for the first time in 1994 -- as long as they don't have a vicious choke job against Yale like last year.

Week 6 results:

Princeton 31, Harvard 28
Dartmouth 20, Columbia 7
Yale 17, Penn 14 [ot]
Brown 28, Cornell 7

There shall be no discussion of my predictions for this week. For the season I am 25-11.

Week 7 in the Ivy League, with the cream rising and the Big Red sinking (my predictive abilities too). Princeton looks to solidify its hold at the top with a win at Cornell. But wait, Columbia to also remain winless in Ivy action with a loss to Yale which remains unbeaten and tied at the top with the Tigers. This weeks action and my increasingly suspect predictions:

Columbia 16 at Yale 32
Brown 22 at Penn 28
Harvard 24 at Dartmouth 21
Princeton 29 at Cornell 28

Week 7 results (late as I have been traveling for work). Big win for Cornell over Princeton thereby dropping Princeton one game behind Yale in the Ivy League. My cumulative predicitions at 27-13.

Yale 21, Columbia 3
Brown 30, Penn 27 [ot]
Harvard 28, Dartmouth 0
Cornell 14, Princeton 7

Week 8 results:

*Yale 27, Brown 24
*Harvard 24, Columbia 7
*Princeton 31, Penn 30 (2ot)
*Cornell 28, Dartmouth 25

Yale remains undefeated with two games left in the season, however a loss against Princeton next week sets up a three-way tie for first (Yale, Princeton, Harvard) going into the final weekend. Columbia remains last and may finish the season without a win in Ivy League action.

Week 9 - Can Princeton salvage its chances for Ivy League glory this year by defeating Yale, and settling to share the title with Yale or Harvard? Harvard and Yale play in week 10 so there can at most be only two teams at 6-1, unless Yale wins out to be 7-0. Princeton has struggled the past two weeks, losing to Cornell then winning in double overtime against Penn. Princeton will not beat Yale this weekend and ends its chances of sharing the Ivy crown. The games and my predictions:

Brown 24 at Dartmouth 16
Cornell 34 at Columbia 27
Princeton at Yale
Harvard 17 at Penn 24


Yale was the first Ivy League Chamption in 1956 with an undefeated Ivy season. Yale last shared the season title with Brown in 1999 and last outright won the title in 1980.

Week 9 Results - Yale stumbles and opens the door for a threeway with Princeton and Harvard (discussion in Week 10 preview below). Columbia spanks Cornell for its first Ivy league win of the season. My record goes bust now at 28-17.

Dartmouth 19, Brown 13 --ot--
Columbia 21, Cornell 14
Princeton 34, Yale 31
Penn 22, Harvard 13

Week 10 Preview/Predictions - Now back to the Princeton, Yale, Harvard threeway; Harvard beats Yale, Dartmouth beats Princeton, and the threeway of Princeton, Yale, Harvard all 5-2 sharing the Ivy League crown. As fun as this threeway sounds, I predict it will not happen because Princeton is nervous about threeways and will beat Dartmouth. As much as Harvard wants to particpate in this threeway, they must first beat Yale to even have a chance of engaging in this threeway. Yale however knows it only takes two to tango, so they beat Harvard and split the Ivy League crown with Princeton.

Yale 24 at Harvard 17
Columbia 17 at Brown 13
Penn 27 at Cornell 30
Dartmouth 14 at Princeton 28

"Princeton is nervous about threeways"

Hahaha, that's great. Obviously I have to miss the bonfire but at least we won HYP.

This is what Tigers do when they win HYP:

http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/pcatalog/...yerName=Bonfire

Week 10 Results - I finish the season with all of my picks winning for 32-17. Yale and Princeton share the Ivy League crown and all the glory of non-scholarship college football.

Yale 34, Harvard 13
Columbia 22, Brown 21
Cornell 28, Penn 27
Princeton 27, Dartmouth 17