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[ July 21, 2006, 11:31 PM: Message edited by: GymMountainEER ]

South Carolina at Mississippi State - USC 28 Mississippi State 12
Western Kentucky at Georgia - Georgia 40 WKU 10
Vanderbilt at Michigan - Michigan 38 Vandy 20
Hawaii at Alabama - Alabama 35 Hawaii 31
California at Tennessee - Cal 28 Tennessee 24
Southern Miss at Florida - Florida 32 Southern Miss 21
Washington State at Auburn - Auburn 30 Wazzou 17
Louisiana-Lafayette at LSU - LSU 44 ULL 14
USC at Arkansas - Arkansas 34 USC 31
Memphis at Mississippi - Ole Miss 31 Memphis 28
Kentucky at Louisville - Louisville 55 Kentucky 24

suey! would love to see u. second choice start ohfer.
probably next to impossible: anyone with ideas about how i can get my hands on tickets for the lsu/auburn game?
geaux tigers

PSU and LSU were similar last year, and will be similar again this year as they are both underrated.

Are the SEC people boycotting Outsports this year? This used to be the most active thread of all!

Jes' wondering....

They will find the bread crumbs soon enough wink

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"Are the SEC people boycotting Outsports this year? This used to be the most active thread of all!..."

I was just about to post the same thing.

Come out, come out wherever you are my SEC brothers & sisters. You promised me some warm southern hospitality, remember?!

the hardcore SEC posters disappeared, and I don't thinks they're coming back.....

I think it's just sneaking up on us this year because it seems so early.

But I'm here now.

damn dial-up.

My alma malter Tennessee looked phenomenal last night at Neyland! Under the guidance of new Offensive Coordinator David Cutcliffe, QB Eric Ainge is vastly improved. As some of you might or might not be aware of, Cutcliffe was the OC at UT during the Heath Shuler and Payton Manning years at UT. Also, he coached Eli Manning at Ole Miss. Cutclifee is one of the better OC's at developing passing QB as three of his former players as evidenced by 3 of his QB's being selected in the 1st round as top 3 picks.

With the dismisal of Randy Sanders last year (long over due), Cutcliffe's re-arrival in Knoxville was exactly what the doctor ordered as its injected new life into the Big Orange program and more specifically offense. An energy that left after Cutcliffe left for Ole Miss back in 1998 to become head coach.

Football is fun again in Knoxville! Last night's romp over Cal had the look of the old UT offenses of the 90's when Shuler and Manning were under snap leading the great UT teams during that time.

[ September 03, 2006, 08:35 PM: Message edited by: GymMountainEER ]

Looks like Ed Orgeron's Ole Miss team is going to use the power run offense of his old team the Miami Dolphins this season. Ole Miss looked pretty good against a team that has gone to a bowl game the last three years. Brent Schaeffer looks like a pretty good quarterback in managing the run game along with Dexter McCluster who had 268 all-purpose yards in his debut and scored a touchdown. The freshman caught six passes for 86 yards, ran four times for 60 yards and returned five kickoffs for 122 yards. Pretty good for a freshman, eh? And, check out the cute starting quarterback for the University of Memphis at http://gotigersgo.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl...s_martin00.html. mmmmmmm, I love the freshmen this year.

Whoops, Martin Hankins is not a freshman. He is a transfer junior to the University of Memphis. He is definitely cute though, in my opinion.

Well here I am, back to talk about my poor Bulldogs, who would have gotten trounced on Thursday night had it not been for their defense. Still working on the offence in Starkville, but I give Croom a chance to keep working it out. He is still trying to rebuild a program that was in shambles when he inherited it. I just hope that our luck isn't too terrible against the Aubies next weekend.

Croom's specialty seems to be Defense. He has almost as good of defense as any in the SEC. Its offense where he seems to have difficulty in assembling one that can sustain drives and get much needed first downs that will at least rest the defense in those close games. It always seems MSU falls behind late in the 3rd Quarter after the defense has been on the field most of the game.

I thought Omarr Connor( high 4 star recruit and top 100 in country in 2004) would the answer for MSU at QB when he signed with the Bulldogs. WVU's Rich Rodreguiez wanted Connor bad to run the spread and almost lured him out of the Delta to Morgantown. I thought as many did he was the big time QB that would become the face of MSU football. You get the feeling MSU is one QB away from becoming a good program again as it was under Sherrill.


WVU fans are looking forward to the trip to Starkville in October. With MSU's athleticism and tough Defense this should be an exciting OOC game.

[ September 04, 2006, 09:45 PM: Message edited by: GymMountainEER ]

GymMountainEER, Ainge looks a lot better than last years' inconsistency. I guess since Clausen is no longer there, Ainge feels more confident to direct the game. How do you feel about UT's trip to Memphis on 9/30/06?

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Phillip,

The UT-Memphis series is always a tough win for the Vols. I was in school at UT when Memphis beat Peyton and the Vols. Also, Memphis has been a play or two away from actually winning 3 other games over the last 8 years or so in the series.


After watching the Ole Miss-Memphis game, the Tigers are a lot better than I think most thought they would be at this juncture after losing your star RB from last season. Tiger QB Matt Hankins was very impressive especially for a freshman. My question is how the hell did Southern Miss allow him to get out of Hattisberg? He's going to be a bigtime QB.

Also, Memphis's overall athleticism looks improved over last year too.

Memphis has a good thing going with its football program. Anytime you land a freshman QB like Hankins to build a team it becomes easier to sell Tiger football.

I'm reserving judgement on Tennessee until I see how Cuttliff and Ainge perform against a REAL defense, something the Golden Bears, and most other PAC-10 teams, know very little about. I don't understand the media hype over California; still think they had a better team last year. So, since I wasn't high on the Golden bears anyway, I wasn't surprised they got punked in Knoxville. I'm definitely not ready to hand over the SEC East title to the Vols; not yet; not until I see how they handle Florida and Georgia; two teams with enough speed and quickness to pressure Ainge and run with the Tennessee's WRs, as well as run away from Tennessee's CBs and safties on the other side of the ball. After these two games, we'll have a better feel for the true quality of the 2006 Tennessee Volunteers. As for an outright SEC championship or BCS bid for the Vols, that's not likely to happen; they won't beat either LSU or Auburn in the title game; Auburn owns the best running game and defense in the SEC and LSU owns the best QB and WR core in the SEC, and one of those two teams will win the SEC outright.

[ September 05, 2006, 05:20 PM: Message edited by: Thomas ]

I agree with Thomas on a wait and see approach before handing the SEC championship to UT.

ONe game doesn't make Ainge a superstar and qualify him for Comeback player of the year after last season's debacle.

However, its premature to state under the guidance of someone of Cutcliffe's stature, Ainge won't become the top notch QB he's capable of based on his obvious arm strength, superior mechanics, and high football IQ.

Lets be honest. Cutcliffe delivered Eli Manning, Payton Manning, and Heath Shuler to the NFL. Eli Started 4 years at Ole Miss, Payton 4 years at Tennessee, and Shuler 3 years at Tennessee. That is 11 years ( since 1992) of coaching 3 players that were Heisman Finalists, top 3 players selected in NFL draft, and 1st team QB All Americans. There is a reason why Ainge and UT has found their groove again. Cutcliffe's arrival equates to an offenseive brand of football on the banks of the Tennessee river that had been doormat since his depature to Ole Miss.

Just as your not ready to state UT's passing game is back , many aren't ready to assess UT's resurgent offense and attribute it to playing a bad Pac-10 offense as well.

Also, UT's due in the SEC championship game if it makes it to Atlanta this December.

LSU or Auburn would be good opponents to rectify their past two defeats in the game against these two heated rivals.

[ September 05, 2006, 05:34 PM: Message edited by: GymMountainEER ]

Folks my computer crizashed sunday so I've just been busy trying to get back up and running.

I think the gamecocks opening up at msu instead of at home against a cupcake is gonna pay off--maybe very very soon.

someone explain something to me. ever since 9/11/01 everything for purses to stadium seats have to be checked before you can enter williams-brice stadium.

do they not do this elsewhere--miss. st. mainly. tradition or not the NCAA needs to be consistant on the noisemakers either everyone can have them or no one can.

hate to say it tennessee did look impressive--but Cal also looked shellshocked.

amd what the hell has happened to lenny of leonards losers??? i know it's the nephew now cause the original died but he's not keep it up. went on the website tonight there's a notice up saying he can't make picks for personal reasons.

the world i grew up in is disappearing.

#6/7 LSU @ #3/4 Auburn

Through two games both teams have pretty equal stats, only one really sticks out: Auburn's 36% to LSU's 65% on 3rd down conversions.

Geaux Tigers!

SEC football - if you aren't cheating, you aren't trying.

Well, tomorrow all hell breaks out when Tennessee plays Florida, I guess. I hope Ainge takes a nerve pill to keep down his jitters when it comes to the big games.

COntroversial finish to the LSU-AUB game as the refs waved off a PI on 4th down that would've given LSU a first down inside the Auburn 20. The flag was waved off cause the pass was tipped, after the interference had occurred.

Well, I wouldn't blame the LSU loss on the refs. Yeah, that reversed PI call against LSU hurt, especially since everybody in America knows that was a bullshit call; just like the no-catch call that went against Jacob Hester (the replay showed that it was a catch). I blame the LSU loss on LSU's head coach, Les Miles, and the LSU OC. Why? LSU has the best QB and WR core in the country and Miles kept trying to run the ball when it was obvious that his O-line and/or blocking schemes weren't producing results. Miles' bull-headedness is what cost LSU the game. The LSU O-line is not talented enough to open running lanes against arguably the SEC's best defense (LSU is ranked #1 in scoring defense), and anybody who's watched the LSU RBs in the first two games knows their RBs simply aren't very good this year. I guarantee that the stats will show about 46 total yards gained on 20+ running plays. What's the point? Why keep trying to run? Especially when the strength of the LSU offense is the passing game. Jamarcus Russell might not be the headiest QB in the nation, but owns a stronger arm than any other QB in the nation. When you couple that with the depth and speed of the LSU receivers, and the O-line's excellent pass blocking schemes, the obvious winning strategy for LSU is to feature the passing game.

I understand that you won't win many games if defenses know that the medium to long range pass is the primary option, which is why most teams try to run the ball at least a little bit (to keep defenses honest), but quick slants, drags, curls, and out patterns are effective substitutes for the running game and are just as effective at keeping LBs, CBs, and safties honest, and, setting up the long ball. In my opinion, even if it doesn't mean anything, Les Miles and the LSU Tigers went into the game with a losing strategy; e.g., to mix the run and pass. But when the Auburn defense stuffed the running game, no adjustments were made. I have to believe that if Nick Saban were still in Baton Rouge, he'd had a better understanding of this team's talent on offense, and, would have involved his play-makers (QB and WRs) more.

I don't want this to sound like sour grapes, though. When you lose (it happens), you shouldn't point fingers; you must take it like a man. I congratulate the Auburn Tigers. They were the best team today. They were the best team in the SEC last year, and they are the best team in the SEC this year. Do not be fooled by the polls. Auburn is the best team in the SEC. Lurking behind them are LSU, Florida, and Georgia, in that order. Tennessee is mediocre, and the other SEC teams are not very good. Tommy Tuberville is a pompous ass, but his coaches and players deserves major props. Those guys played their hearts out today, and you have to respect and admire that. When LSU came out and smacked them in the mouth, they didn't quit; they keep fighting and gave as good as they got. Because of that, they got the win and eliminated LSU from any hope of an SEC title (possibly a BCS bid as well) this year.

Buit after watching the other games today, I am more convinced more than ever that USC is the best team in the country, and Ohio State, Auburn, Michigan, and Louisville are not very far behind.

This was not a good day for the Big Twelve.

[ September 16, 2006, 10:18 PM: Message edited by: Thomas ]

Uh, Auburn was not the best team in the SEC last year...they were two years ago however.

Re: the above bolded text . . . . um - no.

Georgia Bulldogs fan here - and if I'm not mistaken, GEORGIA proved to be the best team in the SEC last year, fair and square 34-14 (although the Sugar Bowl is a different story . . .). Auburn MAY look like it's the best team in the SEC (and rumors abound that the SEC championship game will be between Auburn and Georgia) - but like we saw this past weekend with Michigan and Notre Dame (and Clemson vs. Florida State), ANYTHING can happen.

Not sayin' that you don't have good insight and commentary - you do. But I'm not one to count my chickens before they hatch.

Just trying to defend the Dawgs here (although it would be really nice if they could stay with one qtrback since Tereshinski's injury). Speaking of Tereshinski - I'm wondering how long he's going to be out during the season.

Since I'm out on the West Coast (or as some of my family in Georgia call it the "Left Coast"), I don't get to see too many Georgia games, unless CBS has them on schedule (like the LSU game and the Fla/Tenn game this past weekend). I know they play Colorado this weekend at Sanford Stadium - but they play at 12:30pm Eastern Time (there's no station out here that would play an SEC game that early . . .).

Anyway, I just wanted to put my two tarnished pennies' worth in - and to let others know how much I enjoy the SEC and SEC football.

Thanks guys. I stand corrected. Georgia was the best team in the SEC last year. And Beachbum (if that's your real name? LMAO), maybe you should try Direct TV. That way, you can watch the Bulldogs as often as you want. Yes, Georgia is 3-0, but they haven't played a quality team yet, so it's hard to get a feel for how good they really are. And because I really don't think much of Tennessee, except for the QB, I expect the Bulldogs, because of a relatively easy first half schedule, to be 8-0 when they host Florida at home. Then we'll know their true colors. The Bulldogs should finish no worse than 10-2 this year, with the possible losses coming against Florida and Auburn.

[ September 18, 2006, 06:15 PM: Message edited by: Thomas ]

So, here is one outsports SEC fan that has been away for awhile.... Where is GatorJamie? I could always count on her to represent UF and the SEC. Hell I even kinda miss KeyWestGuy. I guess since his Canes are stinking up South Florida he isn't posting anymore either?

Interesting that Tulane (and South Carolina) beat Mississippi State, despite the fact that Tulane must meet each of its SEC opponents on the opponents' home fields due to Katrina. Tulane is not a good football team. They gave up five games worth of yardage to the University of Houston. I guess Sylvester Croom is therefore not a good coach, eh?

Thanks for the idea with Direct TV - I have digital cable (which is costing a fortune these days) so I should look into getting some sort of game package or game plan deal.

And the \"handle\" isn't my real name - it's Jason.

I agree. Georgia doesn't play Tennessee until October 7th and doesn't play Florida until Oct. 28th (boy I wish I was there for that game - "The World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party").

I just noticed that the month of October might be a bit rough for the old Gators - they play LSU on the 7th, then Auburn the following weekend (the 14th) - then they get a break before playing Georgia. I just hope they get beat by someone (hopefully all 3).

Until then, I just hope the Dawgs keep their cool and don't screw things up.

[quote]Beachbum:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Thomas:


I just noticed that the month of October might be a bit rough for the old Gators - they play LSU on the 7th, then Auburn the following weekend (the 14th) - then they get a break before playing Georgia. I just hope they get beat by someone (hopefully all 3).

Until then, I just hope the Dawgs keep their cool and don't screw things up. [/quote]Now a true SEC fan wants to play their brothers undefeated.....

[ September 20, 2006, 09:32 PM: Message edited by: StPtGator ]

I don't know what to make of Sylvester Croom. I'm certain he simply doesn't have the talent to implement a winnable game plan in the SEC. So, I don't know if he's a good coach or not. How do you think he'd do as coach at LSU? Auburn? Florida? Georgia? Tennessee? Probably better. I can't even judge whether he's a good recruiter because he hasn't had enough time to recruit good players. I grew up in the Mississippi delta, but I don't blindly defend the Mississippi teams. They suck right now, but it is possible that both teams have legitimate excuses for being that way. So, regarding Miss State, I'm still in a wait and see mode with Croom. he's got nothing...nothing..to work with.

I feel bad for Tulane too, even though they beat an SEC team. Tulane has been through hell and back. They deserve some good fortune, so long as it's not this weekend, against LSU.

Beachbum: Just kidding about your name, dude. And you might get your wish, at least the front end. I expect Florida to lose to both LSU and Auburn, but, I expect them to beat the Bulldogs, unless the tenacious defense that LSU and Auburn brings to the field knocks Leak out of the game with Georgia (something I never wish for any player). Leak is smart but timid about getting hit, while his backup, Lebow, is a good scrambler. But even Lebow is not good enough to outrun the LBs, CBs, or safties that LSU and Auburn put on the field. These two teams have some of the fastest LBs I've ever seen.

[ September 20, 2006, 11:47 PM: Message edited by: Thomas ]

True. I only want the Bulldogs undefeated. Actually, the best games are when both teams are undefeated - so you have a point.

Thomas - you're probably right about Florida. And you're right about LSU and Auburn - both teams' defense are quite strong (it's no wonder why last week's game was such a low score). I didn't pay that much attention to Chris Leak in last week's game (USC was playing Nebraska and sports bars can get a little loud). I was looking at Leak's stats as compared to Tebow - and I can't compare them on stats alone because Leak has had more time on the field.

You gotta wonder about Phillip Fulmer's future at Tennessee since he finished last year 5-6 and so far, the future isn't looking too bright for Tenn. Florida's defense was just too tough for them.

Tennessee will be all right. Expect the Vols to have a 9-3 ( at worst) to 10-2 ( at best) record this year and play in the Cotton, Peach, or Citrus Bowl.

UT will win 2 of 3 from Georgia, Alabama LSU. They'll win the rest of the games on their schedule ( which is pretty easy).

A possibility of UT making Atlanta for the SEC championship Game isn't out of question. A win over Georgia puts UT back into contention.

A lot of football to still be played in the SEC.

Someone better wake up Georgia. Colorado is running roughshod over them (236-31 yd discrepancy), but only 10-0 on the scoreboard.

Here's the problem with Georgia..

Yeah they had 2 shutouts....but....

South Carolina (moderate team) 18-0

UAB (weak team) 34-0

What does this tell me? It tells me Georgia's offense is weak. They have a good defense, but their offense can't capitalize

All someone needs to do is shut down Georgia's defense, hold back the offense (easily), and they can win.

Granted, I didn't expect Colorado to do it, but uh, maybe they woke up to the football season?

The Buffs have shown some signs of life on D this year (ASU scored only 21 on em), so the defensive part could be accomplished. Now they just have to finish off some offensive drives.

hey guys sorry I've been away just doesn't seem to be as lively a disscussion here this year.

Thursday will be my thrid trip to Columbia this year--I went toi the Wofford game because it was my turn--my mom wanted to go to a wedding reception so i got to go then and of course being thursday and my mom still working I get to go again.

The situation with Blake Mitchell a few weeks ago was blown all the hell out of proportion. Charges were dropped. But it may turn out for the best Syvelle Newton is so much more mobile and we can't block anybody right now. 5 TDs last week--yes it was against FAU.

Don't think we have much of a chance this week and even worried about kentucky and vandy.

Gosh, I love these new options on the discussion boards (I think). Well, Memphis and UT have their annual death match in the Liberty Bowl in Memphis this Saturday starting at 11:00 CST (ESPN). It should be a good game, from a gay signtseer's perspective. Danny Ainge and Martin Hankins, the two starting quarterbacks, are both easy on the eyes. And, I think that Memphis will play their hearts out, with lots of good closeups of sweaty bodies and hysterical fans, if you like that kind of thing. But, I do have to admire the UT team and their fans for their sportsmanlike gentility. They have a gentleman's attitude toward the game of football, unlike some of the rabid locals around Memphis. Memphis has a lot to learn about hospitality from UT (and other teams).

You should be worried about the Kentucky game! We looked pretty good against UF ... game has been picked up by ESPN2. Should be a loud and fun time in Commonwealth!

As we begin the month of October, the truth is beginning to show... we have FOUR count em FOUR teams in the top ten.

Yes we still have to play each other, and my beloved Gators still have to play the other three SEC teams in the top 10, and if we can get through Auburn undefeated, and have our annual Dawg roast in Jax, then look for the SEC to hold the top spot in the polls....

SEC....SEC....SEC....SEC

The more I watch this game, the more I realize that I can't stand Alabama, but very much enjoy looking at Mike Shula. Oh well, at least I've got something to watch during their games.

Is Timmy Tebow the next Peyton Manning?

Ok so we got settled down and put away Alabama, Gonna be some great football next few weeks.

Georgia does not deserve to be in the top 10.

Florida, well...they won't be after Saturday

What's the chip on your shoulder psu? You so down on SEC teams why you coming around this board?

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Georgia doesn't deserve to be in the top 10...they were almost beaten by both Colorado and Ole Miss. It's only a matter of time (cough...this weekend...cough) before someone beats them (and considering how well Tennessee has looked lately, it might be pretty ugly).

Florida on the other hand does not look like it will be able to get past LSU's D. Good luck trying though. (Insert Geaux Tigers! here)

Anything is possible, but if both Florida and LSU bring their A games, LSU will win. LSU has the best defense in the country...hands down. Their front seven is the best in the country, and, their DBs are the best in the country. LSU also boast the best receiver core in the country, and, the strongest, if not the brightest, QB in the country (Jamarcus Russell). It's most glaring weakness is at running back. That's LSU's Achille's heel; they do not have a single stand-out RB on the team; not one. But hopefully Les Miles learned his lesson against Auburn, and will stick with the passing game this week. Their four and five receiver sets are almost impossible to stop. Although it appears that Florida has a better gasp of Myers weird spread offense this year, especially with Tebow running the ball, and I do expect a very tough game in Gainseville (Florida has excellent athletes on both ends of the ball as well, especially Chris), I see no way that Florida will score enough points against LSU's defense to win this game, especially with their star RB out. Neither Tebow nor Leak will be able to run against LSU's defense. If they try to do that, one or both will be very sore the following Sunday. The extremely physical LSU defense is not a good match-up for the offense Myer likes to run, so I expect LSU to win that game.

Yea, Shula is good-looking. But, I like looking at Urban Meyer a little more.

Uh-oh. Urban's letting Tebow throw now, psyching out LSU on 2 TD's.