Mariner Duck Guy
Feb 19 2002, 01:28 PM
Looks like Boonie is quite the character. Arrogant? Cocky? Yes & Yes...but as long as he puts up the numbers, I don't mind him...especially his amazing Boo-tay Love the yearbook comment to Cirillo.
Ka-Boone
Jim Allen
Feb 19 2002, 03:36 PM
I feel he's wrong about two things:
1) The Mariner's season was a failure. Those 116 wins meant squat because they couldn't get it done when it counted. Your mileage may vary greatly though! :-)
2) People will expect that kind of season again. Anything less and he'll have the Darin Erstad Syndrome: It Was A Fluke.
And Brett, blonde hilights? That's wrong on so many levels!
RCKSoniK
Feb 19 2002, 04:11 PM
I disagree, you cannot call a 116 win season a failure, they failed to meet their ultimate goal, but the season will be compared to for a long time to come, maybe the next 100 years. It was a fun season for the fans and team and I would say still a MAJOR success. This year they will be like the 07 Cubs and win the series. They probably wont win 116 games and most intelligent fans know that but even if they only win 85 (unlikely) and go on to win the world series it will be the ultimate success. Although that season wont be as memorable in history.
mets57
Feb 19 2002, 10:17 PM
It was a failure! Without the cake, the icing sucks!
RCKSoniK
Feb 19 2002, 11:14 PM
but the hamburger is better with no tomato
Jim Allen
Feb 20 2002, 12:42 PM
GP43, fans will remember the 116 wins, definitely. Then the next thing they'll remember is that they didn't even make the World Series. The M's didn't get the job done and no matter how great their regular season was, no matter how much fun the fans had, for us non-M's fan, it's generally thought that it was a great regular season, but an underwhelming post-season. I think that the M's peaked in June/July and by the time the playoffs rolled around, they'd lost the edge.
Mileage will vary, of course!
Lots-of-us
Feb 20 2002, 05:41 PM
It just toasts my cookies to have people say that the Mariners' 2001 season was "a failure"!!
The Mariners played GREAT almost all year long (they did start to fall apart toward the end). But, hey, they won their division and it took the legendary Yankees to beat them. How many teams can say that?
Disappointing? You bet! But a failure? How many other MLB teams would have KILLED to have had such a "failure"?
MSUBulldogFan
Feb 20 2002, 06:24 PM
You can have a 5-man pitching staff that matched up with anyone for six months, but if you don't have at least 2 stoppers in that bunch, you're dead in the postseason. That is the Mariners the last 2 years. And sadly, it appears to be the case again this year. Just having Garcia won't cut it. If they're in it in July, I'm sure they have to get a #1 or #2 starter via trade.
[ February 20, 2002: Message edited by: MSUBulldogFan ]
RCKSoniK
Feb 21 2002, 02:30 PM
wrong: besides for Sele the starting pitching was great, it was the hitting. Pineiro will step up and may be at Garcia's level this year. Moyer was also great in the playoffs, it was just a fluke that Rhodes and Sasaki crumbled and lost a couple games other pressure, this year will be different. Even Abbott held his own vs. Clemmons, also Baldwin seems to have outstanding years in even numbered years (2002), and Halama is always solid in the playoffs.
edgarfan
Feb 21 2002, 04:09 PM
The ONLY failure in the 2001 Mariner's season is on the part of the national audience as was made obvious to us in Seattle here on this board last year at the end of the regular season and, unfortunately, here on this thread.
Thank you for the salt in the ALCS wounds, yet again.
Considering the payroll of the two teams in the World Series last year, I still stand by my belief that those teams bought their way in with some good talent but some really big bucks.
In a comparison to the current events. The Mariners might have been awarded the 'GOLD' like the Canadian pairs figure skaters. They had an inspiring, talent filled and nearly flawless performance as a season, but the SCHMANKEES got off their asses (finally) in the post season and, with some luck and the inexperience of the Oakland A's, succeeded in winning a seven game series that just happened to be the ALCS.
Seabaseballluvr
Feb 22 2002, 10:36 PM
Jeez, don't know what I could have been thinking having all that fun last year while following my Mariners. I didn't realize at the time that all those wonderful memories(and loads of goosebumpy moments) were really failure moments at the time.
Was I disappointed? Extremely, but what a ride. Ask those teams that had 6 months of disappointment how many memories they have of their teams' year. I'd rather be in the top 4 then be in the rest of the pack!!!
Do you guys complain too when you have an awesome makeout session with this hot guy but then he has to leave so you don't get your rocks off. Was that a FAILURE?

(maybe wrong example for this group)
Seabaseballluvr
Feb 22 2002, 10:38 PM
Oh and I see Boone as confident not cocky.
Joe in Philly
Feb 22 2002, 10:43 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Seabaseballluvr:
Jeez, don't know what I could have been thinking having all that fun last year while following my Mariners. I didn't realize at the time that all those wonderful memories(and loads of goosebumpy moments) were really failure moments at the time.
Was I disappointed? Extremely, but what a ride. Ask those teams that had 6 months of disappointment how many memories they have of their teams' year. I'd rather be in the top 4 then be in the rest of the pack!!!
I think there was a bit of a feeling among M's fans that the World Series was sort of guaranteed because of their regular season success, and others didn't take kindly to it. But it's true...better to be near the top, and contending.
[quote]Do you guys complain too when you have an awesome makeout session with this hot guy but then he has to leave so you don't get your rocks off. Was that a FAILURE?
Oh, lord, YES it was. I remember this one night....sigh....
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