So the NCAA, over the objections of football coaches, AD's, and the ACC, has decided to add a 12th regular-season game starting in 2006. This means that teams that play in conferences that have championships could play 14 games if they play in a championship and a bowl game.

My call: STOOPID. Use the extra game to set up a PLAYOFF SYSTEM.

gj

BTW, what's with the ACC objection? Cryami scared of adding the GATORS?

Nice try, Gator-breath. Miami's AD is already on the record as wanting to schedule the Gators. What's Foley afraid of?

Someone please introduce Dee-Dee to the ACC commish. Seems to be disconnect in basketball-conference land.

Edited to add: Your boy Coker was on talk radio yesterday saying that he doesn't want a 12th game.

[ April 29, 2005, 10:53 AM: Message edited by: GatorJamie ]

12th game = Dumb, dumb, dumb. Money hungry whores!

All you Aubies out there: what do you think about this?

(Everyone duck - this could be ferocious)

4 FIRST round draft picks...PLAYOFF, PLAYOFF, PLAYOFF

4 FIRST round draft picks...PLAYOFF, PLAYOFF, PLAYOFF.

Don't be upset Aubie. Four first rounders is just fine. It's not quite six, but it's a good start.

Pull out your leisure suit boys and girls, KWG is rockin' the past!

Back to the topic at hand...

Well, KWG probably gets back to his matter at hand more than most, but really GJ, isn't that BostonGirl's job?

The main argument that the NCAA makes against a playoff is that it will hurt their "student-athletes" by making them play too many games. Gosh, isn't that a bit inconsistant with allowing a 12th game? Odd that the NCAA would not be looking out for the student athletes in this instance.

Ok, the sarcasm area of my brain is just a bit overloaded today, what with Fred Phelps visiting my little town this weekend and picketing a college graduation and 4 churches, and me being quoted in the local paper as "a homosexual". I will do better next week, I promise.

KWG - I think I'll take 2,5,9,& 25 over 5,6,12,17,20,& 21.

Welcome to my rant. Sit down, and make yourself comfortable.

Just when you think that the powerbrokers of the NCAA coulda/shoulda/woulda learned an invaluable lesson in 2004 (four undefeated teams and no playoff), they demonstrate what their only motivation is.

Is the NCAA designed to protect the college athlete? Don’t be silly!
Is the NCAA designed to serve the fans? What a foolish notion.
Academics? Equity? The interest of the 1-A coaches? All are completely irrelevant.

Life, as the NCAA understands it, is all about the green.

Here then, the dissection of all that is wrong with the decision to add a 12th game:

1. Hypocrisy run amok

By adding a 12th game, the NCAA can forever extinguish the possibility of a playoff system. The argument has long been that a playoff would simply be too many games for these kids to play. In an 11-game season, a team in a 12-team conference might be looking at a 14 or 15 game season if a playoff was enacted.
“We are not interested in an NFL playoff scenario,” the argument goes.

By adding the twelfth game, then this argument becomes more concrete.

The hypocrisy, of course, is that the NCAA bitched about “too many games” when playoffs were the hot topic last year. Their solution, ironically, is to add another game.

2. You would think…

If there was any logic to a 12th game, it would have been that schools might feel easier about scheduling those brutal non-conference opponents. The nation would sit up and take notice of more Auburn-Southern Cal, or possibly FSU-Michigan, Florida-Miami, or a blockbuster on the order of a Texas-Ohio State. And this prospect would make for a more interesting season. You might find me supportive of the 12th game, if the thing was codified to force “big games.”

But in the NCAA’s infinite wisdom, the “big game” has been sacrificed on the altar of the Powder-puff Gods. Where once a 1-A program could count a 1-AA win toward bowl eligibility once every four years, they have thrown out that rule and will now allow schools to count a 1-AA win EVERY YEAR.

The reactions of the ADs have already made it into print. Many ADs have gone on record saying that they will use the 12th game not for a “big game,” but rather to schedule a 1-AA every year. Why? Not because it’s an interesting matchup, but rather that the larger programs stand to net $2-3 million at the turnstile by having an additional home game.

The spin ushering forth from the mouths of some Athletic Directors is that: (a) they need the money, and ( the only way they can sell this shit to the coaches is that they don’t force them into a meat-grinder schedule. The winner – the program’s budget. The losers – the coaches, the players, the fans, and the integrity of the record books.

3. Tradition takes a bath

Some schools historically do not play on Thanksgiving weekend, with the season concluding the week before. Typically these programs play in conferences with a playoff, and strategically use that off week to gear up for the conference title game (if they qualify). That arrangement effectively goes out the window.

The reality is that those schools will have to make a choice - switch their final rivalry game to Thanksgiving weekend, or surrender a bye week during the season. How many schools will choose to play on 12 consecutive weekends? Answer = None.

Perhaps I am a bit biased on this issue, as there are actually few schools that conclude their regular season prior to Thanksgiving. There has long been a sense of drama for Auburn fans as we head into the season finale of Georgia and Alabama, on back to back weekends. Since Georgia traditionally plays the bees of Ga Tech around Thanksgiving, then Auburn will have to move its rivalry with Georgia back one week, or begin scheduling another opponent in between UGA and Bama. No sir, I don’t like it.

4. Shredding the records

Methinks that most of the previous 1-A records for yardage, etc will begin to fall if everyone's playing a 12th game, mainly against a 1-AA team. This is a minor beef, but a beef nonetheless.

5. Diminishing the NFL Dream

Players suffer injuries that end their hopes of making it to the NFL. One can argue that any additional games, whether 1-AA or a playoff game, are equally bad for the player. But only placing a handful of these kids under the additional risk (in a playoff) is better than placing ALL of them under the risk. Plus, at least a playoff would mean something. I struggle to find any meaning in the Citadel, Southern Illinois, or Portland State.

6. The Angry Season Ticket Holder

Call me angry. Season ticket purchasers are at the mercy of the AD. You want to be able to buy that ticket against Blood Rivalry State? Then you must buy tickets for all our home games. And oh, by the way, we're charging you an additional $40 for a game that you would need to pay someone to endure.

My rant is done. Go about your bidness.

Here's a link.

Where's a link to the quote?

Like I said: it's STOOPID. :mad:

But ya are, Blanche; ya are a homosexual. wink

P.S. Keep your head up, big guy.

The paper does not put all articles online, just the ones on the front page above the fold. The article about the two out gay people in Danville was on the front page below the fold, thank goodness. The article was not online, but everyone here reads the paper. No negative feedback so far, but it was funny that the reporter that interviewed me said he had talked to so many people who did not want their names to be used. But hey, 2 gay people in the town is more than most people here believe exist.

The the Westboro church people were here all weekend, but there were only 6 of them, the counterprotest that I helped with had 75 people, and we got through with no incidents and a positive message of inclusion and love. Man, those people with Phelps are NUTS!!! Not only did they carry the typical "God hates fags" signs, but also "God bless 9-11" and "God hates America". The only potential problem at the protest were a bunch of good-ol'-boys in big pickups sitting across the street just watching us. But when the Westboro protesters started dragging the American flag on the ground and stomping on it, the good-ol'-boys started focusing their attention on them and not us.

Our little city is not used to such controversy, but I think it helped the cause by showing the nuts that are on the other side and the hatred that can arise from anti-gay rhetoric. Here are links to the stories about the protests, we did not have any counterprotests at the 5 churches they went to on Sunday. All-in-all, I am glad this weekend is over, no one got hurt or arrested, and the tiny gay community came together for the first time to take action.

http://www.registerbee.com/servlet/Satelli...782462812&path=

http://www.registerbee.com/servlet/Satelli...d=1031782473118

This is a constructive criticism, Rob. You really should create a thread about this on the P&R board. I mean this in a good way, not cuz I'm trying to bump this info off this thread...I just think this type of stuff is bound to get more reaction over there. And it deserves such.

Cheers!

You are right, sorry, this is supposed to be about the idiocy and hypocracy of the NCAA when it comes to football. Sorry, got carried away.

gotta agree with everyone advocating for a playoff. don't give a 12th regular season game, take one away, let them play 10 and use the 11th and 12th weeks for a four-team playoff.

of course, we'd still have much brouhaha about how to select the four playoff teams, but it would be a step in the right direction.

but as has been pointed out, greed will carry the day, and confusion will reign come season end.

Penn State schedules that newly minted MAC powerhouse....Temple. Ugh! I miss the days when our schedule included Alabama, Nebraska, USC, and other teams we couldn't come near these days. There is no question that we should have added Pitt (we can call them that again). No question at all.

PSU local columnist Rob Bracken (kind of Penn State's Tony Kornheiser) gets after Joe for this one...

Penn State chooses easy route instead of rivaled one

Penn State won't be the only one.

Everyone say it with me: STOOPID.

While I don't like an additional game I'd accept it if the conferences where the teams don't all play each other every year (Big 10, Big 12, SEC etc) are forced to play another conference game and not some gimme patsy.

LMAO! That's a real knee-slapper!

oh, but if it weren't true. frown

Georgie Boy - I guess you saw the news where the PAC-10 has discussed doing exactly what you are talking about. They will begin playing 9 conf games, so everyone will play one another. Although the Big 11 could follow that lead, they would still be 1 game of playing everyone in-conference.

But I do not agree that the conferences with a title game should adopt this strategy. The PAC-10 is doing it because they felt it would make for a clear-cut conf champion. 12-team conferences have no such concerns.

MY SOLUTION
I have long been an advocate of the "ACC-Big 10 Challenge" concept currently deployed in NCAA hoops.
For example, the SEC and Big 12 could enter into an agreement, and pick one weekend (early in the season) in which all 12 member schools from each conference pair up against one another. Perhaps the Big 12 North plays the SEC East at SEC sites, while the SEC West plays at the Big 12 South sites. Or something along those lines anways.
It would be a media-hyping event, to say the least. And it makes so much sense that they will never do it.