Yikes, apparently the Rangers are now talking to the Yankees about taking on A-Rod's contract. According to this article, A-Rod would move to third base. I doubt it will happen, but it's certainly intriguing......
A-Rod in pinstripes? Say it ain't so.......
[ February 14, 2004, 02:53 PM: Message edited by: Munson Man ]
Full Version: Pigs Fly, Part II; Yanks, Rangers talk A-Rod trade
Al Trautwig on NBC just reported the deal has been made. This is unbelievable. The Red Sox are the biggest idiots.
They just said the same thing on ABC during the hockey telecast, and that he's going to play third base. Wow.
[ February 14, 2004, 02:19 PM: Message edited by: Joe in Philly ]
[ February 14, 2004, 02:19 PM: Message edited by: Joe in Philly ]
eek! eek! eek! eek! eek! eek! eek! eek!
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I'm speechless.
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I'm speechless.
They're saying it's a done deal on CBS Sportsline.
Despite naming A-Rod their team captain only a few short weeks ago, the Rangers seem ready to move him.
[ February 14, 2004, 03:46 PM: Message edited by: canmark ]
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The New York Yankees and the Texas Rangers have agreed to a trade that will send Alex Rodriguez to the Bronx in exchange for Alfonso Soriano, SportsLine.com's Scott Miller has confirmed.
According to a high-ranking source, an announcement is expected next week, as some minor details still need to be worked out. However, both teams are confident everything will be finalized within a few days. The Yankees will send a minor-league pitcher to Texas as well.
. . .
The acquisition of Rodriguez will push the Yankees payroll past $200 million.
Rodriguez, 28, is owed $179 million in salary over the remaining seven seasons of his contract, $4 million from his signing bonus and $12 million deferred at 3 percent annual interest from salaries during his first three years with Texas.
Soriano, 26, will make $5.4 million this year and has two more years of salary arbitration eligibility remaining. The two-time All-Star can become a free agent after the 2006 season.
However, according to reports, the Rangers have agreed to pay the Yankees some money to make up for the financial disparity.
-------According to a high-ranking source, an announcement is expected next week, as some minor details still need to be worked out. However, both teams are confident everything will be finalized within a few days. The Yankees will send a minor-league pitcher to Texas as well.
. . .
The acquisition of Rodriguez will push the Yankees payroll past $200 million.
Rodriguez, 28, is owed $179 million in salary over the remaining seven seasons of his contract, $4 million from his signing bonus and $12 million deferred at 3 percent annual interest from salaries during his first three years with Texas.
Soriano, 26, will make $5.4 million this year and has two more years of salary arbitration eligibility remaining. The two-time All-Star can become a free agent after the 2006 season.
However, according to reports, the Rangers have agreed to pay the Yankees some money to make up for the financial disparity.
Despite naming A-Rod their team captain only a few short weeks ago, the Rangers seem ready to move him.
[ February 14, 2004, 03:46 PM: Message edited by: canmark ]
Oh.
My.
God.
I am speechless, but totally giddy. I've been whooping it up on the phone with some buddies who are Yankee fans. I was so focused on how great this is for the Good Guys, that I hadn't focused on how shocking and devastating this must be for the Red Sox. Now, of course, it's even sweeter. I hope Larry Lucchino's head exploded when got the news! :mad:
Airborne porcines - who would've thought it?!!
My.
God.
I am speechless, but totally giddy. I've been whooping it up on the phone with some buddies who are Yankee fans. I was so focused on how great this is for the Good Guys, that I hadn't focused on how shocking and devastating this must be for the Red Sox. Now, of course, it's even sweeter. I hope Larry Lucchino's head exploded when got the news! :mad:
Airborne porcines - who would've thought it?!!
Who's going to replace Soriano?
A good deal for the Rangers; it opens up some breathing room financially.
The Red Sox'll be OK, playing-wise; I can't imagine Garciaparra and Ramirez were too happy with all the trade talk, though.
As of this writing (4:05 pm Pacific) it's still not a done deal. I checked 4 sources and none have a story confirming it.
A good deal for the Rangers; it opens up some breathing room financially.
The Red Sox'll be OK, playing-wise; I can't imagine Garciaparra and Ramirez were too happy with all the trade talk, though.
As of this writing (4:05 pm Pacific) it's still not a done deal. I checked 4 sources and none have a story confirming it.
Rumor has it that Enrique Wilson will most likely play 2B, and that Aaron Boone may be moved there if he comes back this season. (Does Boone have experience at second base?)
Jeez, the 2004 Yankees are more loaded than a freshman at a frat party. Could it be 1998 all over again in the Bronx?
Jeez, the 2004 Yankees are more loaded than a freshman at a frat party. Could it be 1998 all over again in the Bronx?
SMILES ALL THE WAY AROUND!!! I can't wait for the baseball season to start! :cool:
According to YES, the Yankees will pay about $16M annually to A-Rod, while the Rangers will by $67M.
How does this deal help the Rangers free up payroll? I wonder what the payroll situation for Soriano will be. The article states Sori will be making $5.4M this year; who's going to be paying that?
How does this deal help the Rangers free up payroll? I wonder what the payroll situation for Soriano will be. The article states Sori will be making $5.4M this year; who's going to be paying that?
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Munson Man:
I hadn't focused on how shocking and devastating this must be for the Red Sox.
This is the part that entertains me, if the deal is finalized. After all that drama with Boston trying to make the deal, to have him go to the Yankees would be hysterical.
I hadn't focused on how shocking and devastating this must be for the Red Sox.
f**k you guys!
Cartman, you dumbass!
So who are the Stankees going to blame when they choke in the playoffs again?
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How does this deal help the Rangers free up payroll?
If he's owed $179 mil over the remaining 7 years of the deal, they only have to pay $67 of that, right? $112 million savings, by my math.So who are the Stankees going to blame when they choke in the playoffs again?
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Jim Allen:
So who are the Stankees going to blame when they choke in the playoffs again?
Six A.L. pennants (four World Series titles) in nine years is choking? :confused: So who are the Stankees going to blame when they choke in the playoffs again?
Oh, this is going to be a great year on the baseball threads!
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Jim Allen:
So who are the Stankees going to blame when they choke in the playoffs again?
Joe Torre. Brian Cashman.So who are the Stankees going to blame when they choke in the playoffs again?
If this deal comes to fruition and the Yankee's aren't tearing up the AL East, are these two going to make it to the end of the season, let alone the playoffs?
I pray that this deal comes through and Boston runs away with it... with pitching! And then we can all collectively dance on the grave of the Yankees for 2004.
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Jim Allen
If he's owed $179 mil over the remaining 7 years of the deal, they only have to pay $67 of that, right? $112 million savings, by my math.
Oh, duh. My brain farted and I thought it was $67M for each remaining year of his contract. My bad.
If he's owed $179 mil over the remaining 7 years of the deal, they only have to pay $67 of that, right? $112 million savings, by my math.
Un-F-in believable.
Mariners fans already hate the Yankees so I can imagine what the reaction will be at Safeco Field when Alex (probably the most disliked of all former M's) comes to town in pinstrips. :mad:
Mariners fans already hate the Yankees so I can imagine what the reaction will be at Safeco Field when Alex (probably the most disliked of all former M's) comes to town in pinstrips. :mad:
Duck Boy, I love the Mariners but certainly can't say that I hate the Yankees or A-Rod. I realize many fans in Seattle were bitter when Alex signed that huge deal with Texas, but keep in mind the Mariners have had much better season records than the Rangers in the three years since then. A-Rod's talents (and salary) shouldn't be wasted playing for a team that seems to be perennially mired in last place in the AL West. So I wish him well in New York. He's always seemed like a classy, unselfish guy to me, and I'm sure he will fit in well with the Yankees, even if it means moving from short-stop to third base. Apparently him and Derek Jeter are good friends. I was surprised to read in the linked article that A-Rod is originally from New York; I always thought he was from the Dominican Republic.
I don't know how this frees up a lot of cash for the Rangers in that they're on the hook for $67 million of the Yankees payroll. They'll also have Soriano in arbitration next year. Yes, they'll be saving some money, but they've got less player.
As for the Red Sox... I said many months ago that they were fools to get into a high stakes game with the Yankees. Taunting the local bully usually earns you a black eye--and that's what they got.
As for 2B, Aaron Boone played there in Cincinati, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Yankees go out and get a player to fill that hole. I think they're trying for an all-star in every position.
As for the Red Sox... I said many months ago that they were fools to get into a high stakes game with the Yankees. Taunting the local bully usually earns you a black eye--and that's what they got.
As for 2B, Aaron Boone played there in Cincinati, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Yankees go out and get a player to fill that hole. I think they're trying for an all-star in every position.
As unbelievable as it sounds, it's really just par for the course in the world of Steinbrenner. He has a personal issue about ever coming in second to the Red Sox so you just knew he had a few more bullets to fire before the season started. Unfortunately for Boston the mantra has always been the same, "what the Red Sox covet the Yankees get".
As far as MLB is concerned it is a great deal for generating interest in the sport. The Yankees now have six of the top 12 paid players in the game. Has this ever been the case before?
The Yankees as has been stated, will pay the remaining 112 million of A-Rods salary while the Rangers will pay 40 million. Another 30+ million of defered salary will be paid by the Rangers at a later date.
What this means on an amortized basis is the where the Rangers were going to pay 25 million a year for 7 more years they now are on the hook for about 11 million a year. This saves them 14 miilion a year to use on other players of which Soriano is a part of.
As far as MLB is concerned it is a great deal for generating interest in the sport. The Yankees now have six of the top 12 paid players in the game. Has this ever been the case before?
The Yankees as has been stated, will pay the remaining 112 million of A-Rods salary while the Rangers will pay 40 million. Another 30+ million of defered salary will be paid by the Rangers at a later date.
What this means on an amortized basis is the where the Rangers were going to pay 25 million a year for 7 more years they now are on the hook for about 11 million a year. This saves them 14 miilion a year to use on other players of which Soriano is a part of.
espn.com reports there will be an announcement in about an hour (2 p.m. Eastern), and a press conference tomorrow.
As with just about anything the Yankees do this makes me sick. Every year the Yankees are the best team money can buy. Luckily money doesn't win championships. My Dodgers aren't exactly thrifty either, but living in South Florida I've had a chance to get to know a real winner. The Marlins are about to defend their Championship. They did it with a lot of heart and the ability to believe in yourself. What a concept!
Didn't the Red Sox deal fall through because of objections from the players union?
Why is it that the union won't object over this deal?
Josh
Why is it that the union won't object over this deal?
Josh
From what I read and a nice fellow Yankee fan I spoke to, the Red Sox deal would have meant A-Rod would have received $30 million less over the course of his current contract. The players union apparently doesn't take too kindly with that, even if A-Rod was agreeable to it. I don't believe that's the case with this current deal.
The reason many Seattle fans dislike A-Rod is not that he left the team. It was his sheer hypocrisy in saying it never was about the money. This, after he signs with one of the worst teams for a gazillion dollars. That's total b.s. Now, he's giving up a playing the position for which he may be the best ever, in order to play with the Yankees. I don't hate him-how can you hate someone with no conscience? His morals aren't worth what a pig could spit.
[ February 15, 2004, 02:23 PM: Message edited by: rupert ]
[ February 15, 2004, 02:23 PM: Message edited by: rupert ]
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pat125:
From what I read and a nice fellow Yankee fan I spoke to, the Red Sox deal would have meant A-Rod would have received $30 million less over the course of his current contract.
Pat, your fellow Yankee fan is wise! Watching the "Sports Reporters" this morning, there was the usual bitching and moaning about the Yankees, but there was not one reporter that could claim that this was not a clean deal. If the Red Sox would have agreed to take on that extra $30-40 million more, I have no doubt that Alex Rodriguez would be in a Red Sox uniform this season. Rodriguez should be absolutely thrilled! He has his money, he gets to avoid the annual disappointments of playing in Boston, and gets to play for the greatest sports organization in the world! From what I read and a nice fellow Yankee fan I spoke to, the Red Sox deal would have meant A-Rod would have received $30 million less over the course of his current contract.
Well my first response to the A Rod trade is much more shallow, namely picturing A Rod and Jeter in the same locker room together.
But as a Yankee fan what perturbs me about the deal is that when the Yankees made their comeback in the mid to the late 90's it was through a combination of developing the farm system, trades and free agent signings. But It seems the farm system is being neglected as Steinbrenner is panicking because the Yankees are not winning the World Series every year. I foresee a mid 80's franchise collapse into mediocrity because of Steinbrenner's lack of patience.
But as a Yankee fan what perturbs me about the deal is that when the Yankees made their comeback in the mid to the late 90's it was through a combination of developing the farm system, trades and free agent signings. But It seems the farm system is being neglected as Steinbrenner is panicking because the Yankees are not winning the World Series every year. I foresee a mid 80's franchise collapse into mediocrity because of Steinbrenner's lack of patience.
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coyoteugly:
I pray that this deal comes through and Boston runs away with it... with pitching! And then we can all collectively dance on the grave of the Yankees for 2004.
I guess every Yankees-Red Sox game possible will be on either ESPN/ESPN2 or Fox nationally. Sheesh.I pray that this deal comes through and Boston runs away with it... with pitching! And then we can all collectively dance on the grave of the Yankees for 2004.
I wouldn't be unhappy if they both collapse and the Blue Jays or Orioles win the AL East.
[quote]Joe in Philly:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by coyoteugly:
[qb] I pray that this deal comes through and Boston runs away with it... with pitching! And then we can all collectively dance on the grave of the Yankees for 2004. [/quote]I really don't follow the AL East that much; but the Yankees have a very questionable starter in Kevin Brown. He's been hurt a lot the last few years; and his numbers in the second half last year were down considerably. I'm more confident about Paul Quantrill, that's one I really wish the Dodgers could have kept in their bullpen. Hopefully Guillermo Mota will have another good year this year in his absence.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by coyoteugly:
[qb] I pray that this deal comes through and Boston runs away with it... with pitching! And then we can all collectively dance on the grave of the Yankees for 2004. [/quote]I really don't follow the AL East that much; but the Yankees have a very questionable starter in Kevin Brown. He's been hurt a lot the last few years; and his numbers in the second half last year were down considerably. I'm more confident about Paul Quantrill, that's one I really wish the Dodgers could have kept in their bullpen. Hopefully Guillermo Mota will have another good year this year in his absence.
Yeah, Kevin Brown's health is dodgy, but if you're a semi-decent pitcher and have one of the best lineups behind you, your chances of winning are pretty good.
Just think: Lofton, Jeter, A-Rod, Sheffield, Giambi, Williams, Matsui hitting...and Mussina, Vazquez, Brown, Contreras, Lieber, possibly DePaula, on the mound...whew!
(I am sad to see El Guapito de San Pedro de Macorís, Alfonso Soriano, leaving Yankee Stadium, though.)
GO YANKEES!
Just think: Lofton, Jeter, A-Rod, Sheffield, Giambi, Williams, Matsui hitting...and Mussina, Vazquez, Brown, Contreras, Lieber, possibly DePaula, on the mound...whew!
(I am sad to see El Guapito de San Pedro de Macorís, Alfonso Soriano, leaving Yankee Stadium, though.)
GO YANKEES!
The Yankees are not really a Major League baseball team. They're like the Harlem Globetrotters. They're just put together to entertain like the circus. They shouldn't be considered a real team like all other Major League teams.
[ February 15, 2004, 08:46 PM: Message edited by: amazin12 ]
[ February 15, 2004, 08:46 PM: Message edited by: amazin12 ]
So I guess it's the George of the old days, just opening the money bag and getting the big ticket players. I thought this season was a bit quiet, with maybe the Brown acquisition somewhat a biggie. But this is probably THE big one for the season and George, like I said, back to his old game. I just home Alex doesn't get confused and think he's the captain. Only Jeter can be captain of the Bronx Bombers. OK, maybe Alex can be deputy captain?
Here's a simple breakdown of the money involved:
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[Drew] Henson's flight: $2.2 million. Soriano's swapped contract: $5.4 million. Boone's violated contract, if voided: $5.75 million.
Rodriguez's 2004 terms: $21 million, of which $3 million is deferred and $4 million is covered by a prorated share of the cash Texas is believed to have included in the transaction.
Suiting up arguably MLB's best all-around player, the reigning AL MVP, for $750,000: Priceless.
Rodriguez's 2004 terms: $21 million, of which $3 million is deferred and $4 million is covered by a prorated share of the cash Texas is believed to have included in the transaction.
Suiting up arguably MLB's best all-around player, the reigning AL MVP, for $750,000: Priceless.
The Yankees payroll after the completion of this deal will roughly be $190m - which means they pay more and more in luxury tax. And for those of us who root for small market teams... Keep spending George. It simply means more money in our team's pockets!
Good for A-Rod! He's got way too much talent to be wasting away on a last place team! That sucks for Aaron Boone, though! Just when he starts to shine, he gets injured and gets replaced by one of the best players around!
Sidenote: A-rod's ass will look hotter in both the pinstripes and the away grey uniform!:-)
Sidenote: A-rod's ass will look hotter in both the pinstripes and the away grey uniform!:-)
The only way the luxury tax payouts will work is if those small-market teams use the money for the on-field product. Too often, the money doesn't seem to be spent wisely.
Don't remember where I heard it, but I liked the Red Sox, A-Rod, Yankee triangle being compared to a man (Red Sox) falling in love with the most beautiful woman in the world (A-Rod) only to have her jilt him on their wedding day by marrying his worst enemy (Yankees.)
If Rodriguez proves to be solid at third--no reason to think he won't be, but he hasn't played that position before--it will just bolster the claim that the's the best player in the sport, however, I wonder whether he and Jeter will be able to coexist. Both crave the limelight (none more than Jeter) and a clash of egos could get ugly real fast.
~Adam
[ February 16, 2004, 09:45 AM: Message edited by: Adam ]
Don't remember where I heard it, but I liked the Red Sox, A-Rod, Yankee triangle being compared to a man (Red Sox) falling in love with the most beautiful woman in the world (A-Rod) only to have her jilt him on their wedding day by marrying his worst enemy (Yankees.)
If Rodriguez proves to be solid at third--no reason to think he won't be, but he hasn't played that position before--it will just bolster the claim that the's the best player in the sport, however, I wonder whether he and Jeter will be able to coexist. Both crave the limelight (none more than Jeter) and a clash of egos could get ugly real fast.
~Adam
[ February 16, 2004, 09:45 AM: Message edited by: Adam ]
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Six A.L. pennants (four World Series titles) in nine years is choking?
Well, it's the high expectations, isn't it? Anything less than a WS title is a "failure", right? So, in the last three seasons, they've lost the WS to Arizona, got *tee hee* bounced from the playoffs by the Angels *tee hee* and got beat by the Marlins last year. That's all I meant.And yeah, the baseball threads are going to be lively this year. I can just see a whole slew of "Yankees win 2 in a row!" or "Red Sox beat Yankees to avoid getting swept!" threads.
For the record, I am not a "Yankee hater". I think they're kind of faceless and dull, actually. The late 70's edition, now that was an exciting team. But what bugs me is the New York-based corporate media thinking that those of us west of the Bronx give a damn about every little thing the Yankees do and saturate the media with Yankees stories, letting other, more interesting stories get buried.
I agree with some of the comments here about the potential clash of egos, and I found it curious that the Yankees bought the best shortstop in baseball with no intention of using him at shortstop. How will that play out, A-Rod playing next to Jeter, thinking that he could have made a play that Jeter missed, and coveting his position. I know, Jeter is a shortstop that any other team would love to have, and A-Rod will probably fit right into his new position and be annointed the best third baseman in baseball... but I can hope for a disastrous collapse, right?
The way Peter Gammons reported it on Sportscenter, the difference between ARod winding up with the Yanks and Red Sox was a mere $2 million (I'm assuming that's $2 mil/year)! If the Red Sox couldn't make this work over what is nowadays a pittance, the Sox will probably be kicking themselves.
[ February 16, 2004, 11:53 AM: Message edited by: George_vikingfan ]
[ February 16, 2004, 11:53 AM: Message edited by: George_vikingfan ]
I guess if the Red Sox still want to have the last word, they could offer Maddux a short contract. Maddux has not had any offers that I know of so he might bite even at a lower rate, just to win another ring. I still think pitching is more important than offense when all is said and done.
I like the Yankees so take what I say how you will...
But stop whining!! If you detractors want teams that have some parity, then you need to get rid of half the league and let the other half spend all they like to pick up all the good players. Teams with low payrolls wont be able to survive at all. So lets just get rid of all the shitty teams.
Would that be much better? Do you want to see 10 superstar teams play each other all season or do you want to see teams with depth and teams with heart battle it out to overcome underdog status over the high rollers? I think option B makes it more interesting.
So yes, now the Yanks are stacked in the fielding dept. But their pitching will remain to be seen no matter who theyve picked up or have left. I remember teams in the late 80s-early 90s where they had great fielding/batting (Mattingly, Boggs, Leyritz, Fielder, etc) but underachiving pitching from hyped players (Mulholland, Irabu, Abbott, Wickman) and it took them nowhere. Losing Wells, Clemens, Pettite, and Nelson all in one season doesnt make for good stability.
But stop whining!! If you detractors want teams that have some parity, then you need to get rid of half the league and let the other half spend all they like to pick up all the good players. Teams with low payrolls wont be able to survive at all. So lets just get rid of all the shitty teams.
Would that be much better? Do you want to see 10 superstar teams play each other all season or do you want to see teams with depth and teams with heart battle it out to overcome underdog status over the high rollers? I think option B makes it more interesting.
So yes, now the Yanks are stacked in the fielding dept. But their pitching will remain to be seen no matter who theyve picked up or have left. I remember teams in the late 80s-early 90s where they had great fielding/batting (Mattingly, Boggs, Leyritz, Fielder, etc) but underachiving pitching from hyped players (Mulholland, Irabu, Abbott, Wickman) and it took them nowhere. Losing Wells, Clemens, Pettite, and Nelson all in one season doesnt make for good stability.
Scrooge McSelig's comments are classic Bud:
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\"I am very concerned about the large amount of cash consideration involved in the transaction, and the length of time over which the cash is being paid. I want to make it abundantly clear to all clubs that I will not allow cash transfers of this magnitude to become the norm. However, given the unique circumstances, including the size, length and complexity of Mr. Rodriguez's contract and the quality of the talent moving in both directions, I have decided to approve the transaction.\"
Translation: "Since the game's "sexiest" player wanted to play for a winner that just happens to be the largest market, I've decided to approve the transaction."
The New York Times story today referred to A-Rod as the "crown jewel" of the Yankees now. I don't think that'll sit well with Jeter and I think that will be the focus of the team during this season, how these two big stars can play together on a team. No one has had that much caliber comparable to Jeter, not even when Giambi came on board. So it'll be interesting to see how this plays out. Maybe they should just wrestle in the locker room and get it over with. (Please, let there be a camera present!)
All the local channels covered today's press conference live! Local ABC, NBC, CBS and FOX plus CNN, FOX News and MSNBC were so all over this that I thought for a second there was a terrorist attack at Yankee Stadium. Talk about overkill!
I watched it live down here in Fort Lauderdale - where there are so many transplanted northeasterners that you've heard nothing but Yankee fans and Red Sox fans jawing at each other in local bars and on local radio call-in shows.
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George_vikingfan:
Scrooge McSelig's comments are classic Bud:
What a hypocritical ass**** Selig is.
Scrooge McSelig's comments are classic Bud:
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\"I am very concerned about the large amount of cash consideration involved in the transaction, and the length of time over which the cash is being paid. I want to make it abundantly clear to all clubs that I will not allow cash transfers of this magnitude to become the norm. However, given the unique circumstances, including the size, length and complexity of Mr. Rodriguez's contract and the quality of the talent moving in both directions, I have decided to approve the transaction.\"
Translation: \"Since the game's \"sexiest\" player wanted to play for a winner that just happens to be the largest market, I've decided to approve the transaction.\"
Here's a question to discuss amongst yourselves:
Which is more self-serving of A-Rod:
--staying a Ranger, taking all that money but losing.
--moving to the Yankees to get that ring.
~Adam
Which is more self-serving of A-Rod:
--staying a Ranger, taking all that money but losing.
--moving to the Yankees to get that ring.
~Adam
Scrooge McSelig's comments:
This is a deal any commish with even one ball (Bowie Kuhn, perhaps) would void.
On the positive side -- forecast the date the Worst Defensive Shortstop in the AL loses his position to the more talented, better-looking, Hall-caliber guy? Opening Day 2006? Earlier?
Many Yankee fans' comments in the wake of this steal, as always, prompt the question I also ask frequently of Republicans: Are you evil, stupid, or both?
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...given the unique circumstances, including ...the quality of the talent moving in both directions, I have decided to approve the transaction.\"
BOTH directions? Who's he talking about on the Texas-bound end -- Robinson Cano? Soriano can't sniff A-Rod's jock.This is a deal any commish with even one ball (Bowie Kuhn, perhaps) would void.
On the positive side -- forecast the date the Worst Defensive Shortstop in the AL loses his position to the more talented, better-looking, Hall-caliber guy? Opening Day 2006? Earlier?
Many Yankee fans' comments in the wake of this steal, as always, prompt the question I also ask frequently of Republicans: Are you evil, stupid, or both?
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Adam:
Here's a question to discuss amongst yourselves:
Which is more self-serving of A-Rod:
--staying a Ranger, taking all that money but losing.
--moving to the Yankees to get that ring.
~Adam
Not so fast my friend...Here's a question to discuss amongst yourselves:
Which is more self-serving of A-Rod:
--staying a Ranger, taking all that money but losing.
--moving to the Yankees to get that ring.
~Adam
Adam, you make it sound as if you automatically get a ring by becoming a Yankee.
Marlins (2003)
Angels (2002)
Diamondbacks (2001)
The Yankee dynasty is on a three year fast. The only thing he is assured of by being traded to the Yankees is that he will be a member of a "competitive" team. But given the changes in Yankee pitching, especially losing Petitte, A-Rod probably shouldn't run and get sized for that ring just yet.
I don't think Adam was assuming the Yanks were going to win; rather he was stating what ARod's reason for forcing his trade to New York (or Boston had that happened).
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