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George Twins fan
Now here's a lesbian outing that straight male sports fans will actually give a rat's ass about:

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Two Carolina Panthers cheerleaders who allegedly were having sex with each other in a bathroom stall at a Tampa, Fla., nightclub were arrested and charged early Sunday following a run-in with patrons and police.

According to a police report obtained by the CBS TV affiliate in Tampa and the Charlotte Observer, Angela Ellen Keathley and Renee Thomas were arrested following an incident at Banana Joe's, in Tampa's Channelside district, at 2:10 a.m. ET.

In the police report, witnesses claimed Thomas and Keathley were having sex with each other in a stall when other patrons grew angry that the two were taking so long in the bathroom.

Another woman waiting to use the bathroom got into an argument with the two, and Thomas hit that person in the face, according to details of the report posted on TampaBay10.com, the CBS TV affiliate's Web site.
Gimme a C! Gimme an L! Gimme an I! Gimme a...

[ November 07, 2005, 04:31 AM: Message edited by: FireMikeTiceNow ]
Maddog
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FireMikeTiceNow:
Now here's a lesbian outing that straight male sports fans will actually give a rat's ass about:

   
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Two Carolina Panthers cheerleaders who allegedly were having sex with each other in a bathroom stall at a Tampa, Fla., nightclub were arrested and charged early Sunday following a run-in with patrons and police.

According to a police report obtained by the CBS TV affiliate in Tampa and the Charlotte Observer, Angela Ellen Keathley and Renee Thomas were arrested following an incident at Banana Joe's, in Tampa's Channelside district, at 2:10 a.m. ET.

In the police report, witnesses claimed Thomas and Keathley were having sex with each other in a stall when other patrons grew angry that the two were taking so long in the bathroom.

Another woman waiting to use the bathroom got into an argument with the two, and Thomas hit that person in the face, according to details of the report posted on TampaBay10.com, the CBS TV affiliate's Web site.
Gimme a C! Gimme an L! Gimme an I! Gimme a...
That is just awesome. rolleyes.gif

And whether we like it or not, that's probably going to be how the first male NHL, MLB, NFL and NBA player comes out. It won't be someone who's in a secure relationship who just wants to come out to make last that final thing perfect to complete his life.

It's gonna be in a stall somewhere, getting pounded by the parking attendant, taking way too long and pissing off other people in line. It won't be pretty and there'll probably be a suspension involved but I'll take it. It's a start.
SFTom
I think an MLB player came out already--over20 years ago. Glen Burke of the Dodgers.
Illini_fan
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SFTom:
I think an MLB player came out already--over20 years ago.  Glen Burke of the Dodgers.
But was it while he was still in the league? That's what we're all waiting for, as Billy Beane and Eusubio Tualo (sp?) both came out after their playing days as well.
sfdriftking76
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Illini_fan:
 
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SFTom:
I think an MLB player came out already--over20 years ago.  Glen Burke of the Dodgers.
But was it while he was still in the league? That's what we're all waiting for, as Billy Beane and Eusubio Tualo (sp?) both came out after their playing days as well.
No MLB player has come out while actively playing in the league. And it's Billy Bean, not Billy Beane.

Billy Beane is the GM of the Oakland A's and who is straight.
SFTom
Doesn't sound like it was much of a secret:

[From \"]http://www.whitecleats.org/gburke.html]

Burke joined a Dodgers lineup boasting Lopes, Dusty Baker, Reggie Smith, Steve Garvey, and Ron Cey. During Burke's first full season with the Dodgers, 1977, the team won the division and played the Yankees in the World Series. Burke, who had played utility outfield and batted .254 in 169 at-bats, was furious that new manager Tommy Lasorda didn't play him after the first game. Burke had already manifested a dark side to his personality; he could be moody and sometimes violent, quick to anger and hard-headed. What began as a teasing relationship with Lasorda, filled with clowning around and practical jokes, eventually turned ugly on both sides.

Burke soon found a particularly effective way to get Lasorda's goat. He befriended Tommy's effeminate son, Tommy Jr., who would eventually die of AIDS in 1991. Rail-thin with wispy blond hair that fell over one eye like Veronica Lake's, Tommy Jr. was known in the gay world of Los Angeles as Tomasina. His straight nick-name was Spunky. Burke and Spunky became running buddies, frequenting the gay bars of Los Angeles. Lasorda, a Christian Bigot, was embarrassed by his gay son. As a practical joke, Burke and Spunky planned to show up at Lasorda's house for dinner in drag with their hair in pigtails but backed out at the last minute. "Tommy first would have shot us both in the head. Then he would have had a heart attack and died." Burke writes.

Such behavior was not designed to keep Burke's homosexuality a secret. Although he was initially well-liked as a rookie, new of his sexual orientation leaked through the organization, and his position within the franchise deteriorated. He would not keep his private and professional lives hermetically sealed from each other. While in the minors, he had revealed his homosexuality to Cleo Smith, another Dodger prospect who had grown up in the East Bay, and Smith had blabbed. Furthermore, Burke's visibility as a major league player exposed him to recognition in the gay community. Ric Williams, owner of an LA landscaping company, used to hang out at a gay bar called the Stud and became friends with Burke before realizing who he was. "I was watching a Dodger's game on TV, and Dusty Baker just hit a home run. The crowd was still cheering, and Tommy Lasorda let Glenn pinch hit, and he hit a home run right after Dusty. I said to my friend Scott, 'I know that guy! That's the guy from the bar!'" The next time Williams saw him at the Stud, Burke copped to who he was. "I try to keep it kind of quiet because they frown on any kind of homosexual activity," he told Williams. The Dodgers, during the late '70s, cultivated a company-team image, well-behaved and squeaky-clean.

Between the organization's gossip and Burke's own indiscretions, the secret was out. As Burke puts it bluntly, "They knew I was gay, and were worried about how the average father would feel about taking his son to a baseball game to see some fag shagging fly balls in center field." The Dodgers suggested he don the time-honored fig leaf for gay public figures. Vice President Al Campanis offered him a honeymoon bonus if he'd find a woman to marry. Burke refused. "How cruel would it have been to marry a girl while having no intentions of ever making love to her?" he demands in his autobiography. At the end of his second season, Burke found himself traded to the Oakland A's for outfielder Billy North. Suddenly his personal and public lives, which had been geographically separated, were brought into a proximity that sharpened the contradictions.
Maddog
Sounds like we was pretty out to everyone around him and to the organization. I wonder what the public would have thought? Maybe they could have rallied around him a bit and diffused all the politics in the organization. A very admirable man regardless.
Illini_fan
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alleninsf:
 
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Illini_fan:
 
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SFTom:
I think an MLB player came out already--over20 years ago.  Glen Burke of the Dodgers.
But was it while he was still in the league? That's what we're all waiting for, as Billy Beane and Eusubio Tualo (sp?) both came out after their playing days as well.
No MLB player has come out while actively playing in the league. And it's Billy Bean, not Billy Beane.

Billy Beane is the GM of the Oakland A's and who is straight.
Bah, details, I have no time for details. tongue.gif

That's why I was asking that as well, because I was not aware of anyone that was out in the league. After reading the previous post, it seems like there was a player out to his organization. An interesting story I'd never heard before I must say.
chi-town
Heck, you know some major league player has been caught in a compromising position with another man in the past, it's just that woman on woman sex sells and possibly promotes their careers, whereas the opposite is true for "action" between two men. The owners, police and such have evey incentive to cover up the latter, even in this day and age; how much do cheerleaders get paid? Do people buy jerseys with their names on them?

[ November 07, 2005, 05:30 PM: Message edited by: chi-town ]
kujhawker
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chi-town:
Do people buy jerseys with their names on them?
No but they will buy magazines. Penthouse has already offered them a shoot. You know guys will be buying that issue.
WhiteSoxFan
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Maddog:
Sounds like we was pretty out to everyone around him and to the organization. I wonder what the public would have thought?  Maybe they could have rallied around him a bit and diffused all the politics in the organization.
This was 1978... I think he'd have a better shot at an accepting/supportive public today than 30 years ago.
George Twins fan
Some are questioning why these girls were immediately fired yet no action has been taken against the Minnesota Vikings players involved in Sex Cruise 2005.
Joe in Philly
I read that one of the cheerleaders is denying that they were having sex, and one witness supports this claim, telling the Charlotte Observer she was in the bathroom and doesn't believe the women were having sex. Once again the news media is trying to keep gay people hidden! Bastards!!!! wink
rstetradio
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FireMikeTiceNow:
Some are questioning why these girls were immediately fired yet no action has been taken against the Minnesota Vikings players involved in Sex Cruise 2005.
I call it the BULLSHIT TRIPLE STANDARD. The Vikings players are:
1)rich
2)male
3)straight

Of course, had the strippers, etc. on Sex Cruise 2005 all been MEN, I imagine the consequences for the players would be very different. I wonder if their money would save them in that case. Somehow I doubt it.
rstetradio
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Joe in Philly:
I read that one of the cheerleaders is denying that they were having sex, and one witness supports this  claim, telling the Charlotte Observer she was in the bathroom and doesn't believe the women were having sex. Once again the news media is trying to keep gay people hidden! Bastards!!!!     wink  
Unless eyewitnesses were in the damn stall with the cheerleaders, how could anybody claim to know WHAT the hell they were doing?
muze
Maddog is right. It will take a George Michael incident for someone to be outed in a major sport. And even then, he could be swept back in the closet by a protective media. Surely someone knew Michael Jordan was a dogg with hos all over Chicago but it wasn't news till he was done playing, and even then it didn't hurt him. Same thing with Kirby Puckett.

There is a double standard. If some woman news anchor was as gay as Anderson Cooper it would be a bigger story. Same thing with a lesbian actress in a bathroom stall, lol. (Paging Marcia Cross...)
fantomas
I agree that a George Michael-type incident would be covered up. Does anyone else remember the time David Justice, then still a high profile player and the husband of Halle Berry, was involved in an "incident" down in Florida? Some of the accounts of what happened seemed to point to Justice trying to pick up/dealing with male prostitutes. But it was quickly hushed up, Justice and Berry "addressed" the problems in their marriage (then divorced not long after), and that was that. There've been other curious incidents involving male athletes over the years, but usually the media and their teams "explain" them away or ensure they don't stay on the front page for very long.
theodoresdaddy
i don't remember that story about Justice

how long ago was it
scottPA
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theodoresdaddy:
i don't remember that story about Justice

how long ago was it
Yes please do tell more about the Justice incident, I've never heard about it either, although I did think he was the hottest guy in uniform when he played with the braves
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