Kye Allums: First transgender man playing NCAA women's basketball Print E-mail
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Kye Allums, the NCAA’s first Div. 1 publicly transgender basketball player, is starting conversations never before held in the sport.

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Not many people noticed a slight change on the George Washington University website earlier this year. It concerned a player on the school’s women’s basketball team named Kay-Kay Allums. Just a couple letters were taken away, a Y was moved and an E was added to form the player’s new name: Kye Allums. To most people it was meaningless, but to Allums the change was the most significant of his lifetime.

“A name is just a bunch of letters, but the letters make up a word and the words that make up my name have so many more emotions behind them,” Allums said. "My old name, that’s just not me. When I hear Kye, everything feels okay, everything is right.”

For the last 20 years, Kay-Kay Allums had appeared to the world as female. He was born with the anatomy that other women have. His mom tried to dress him in only the most feminine clothes. But inside was a man waiting to burst out of the female body he was born in.

On Nov. 13, Kye Allums will introduce himself to the NCAA basketball world at the Best Buy Classic in Minneapolis in a game against the University of Wisconsin-Green Bay. When he steps foot on the court, Allums will be the first publicly transgender person to play NCAA Div. 1 college basketball.

Allums grew up in the small town of Hugo, Minn., a half hour north of Minneapolis. Head coach Mike Bozeman scheduled the tournament appearance as a homecoming for him, long before he transitioned to male. The junior guard’s inaugural game identifying as a man will also be the first time he has played in front of his hometown crowd. While Allums is making a change now, most of his family and friends will recognize him as the same old Kye.

Growing up, Allums was a tomboy. The oldest of four kids, he would often say he was a boy despite being born a biological girl. Around age 12, he realized that no other girls behaved or dressed the way he did, so he adopted some of the trappings of other girls his age: Putting on make-up, wearing skirts and dresses. After just a year of putting up a feminine front, it was back to the tomboy clothes and wondering why he just didn’t fit in.

“I’ve always felt most comfortable dressing like a boy, but my mom would take all of my clothes from me and she’d force me to wear girl clothes,” Allums said. “I’d bring sweats and basketball shorts and put them in my backpack. I’d just change every day when I got to school, and I had to change back before I went home. It was annoying, but it was the only way I could go to school.”

In high school, Allums met other people who acted and dressed like him: They were lesbians. For the next few years Allums identified as lesbian, finally fitting into a group that he could define. As he progressed deep into his teens, despite their similar dress and manner, he realized he just didn’t fit with the lesbians at his school either.

It was a text message from his mother during his freshman year at George Washington that flipped the switch. They were in a fierce texting battle when his mother wrote, “Who do you think you are, young lady?” The answer was suddenly crystal clear to him: He wasn’t a young lady at all.

“I used to feel like trans anything was really weird and those people were crazy, and I wondered, ‘How can you feel like that?’” Allums said. “But I looked it up on the Internet and I thought, ‘Oh my god, I’m one of those weird people.’ And I realized they’re not weird. It’s all in your mindset and how you think.”

Early in his sophomore year, Kye began to emerge. When people referred to Allums as “she” or “girl,” he was quick to correct them. He distanced himself from the name Kay-Kay.

“When people refer to me as ‘girl’ or ‘she,’ it doesn’t sit well with me,” Allums said. “That feeling you get when someone pisses you off, that feeling you get when your stomach gets hot and it aches, that’s what it feels like. And that’s how I know I’m not supposed to be a girl. If I was, I’d be walking around like everybody else, getting make-up and doing my nails. But it doesn’t sit well with me.”

It was during his sophomore year that Allums told some teammates he was a man inside a woman’s body. At first, they didn’t believe him. They joked with him about it. But Allums was serious, and when he is on a mission everyone takes notice.

“We were all just talking, a bunch of teammates, and he said that he’s a guy,” said teammate Brooke Wilson, one of Allums’ closest friends on the team. “At first I didn’t understand, and then he explained that sex is how you’re born and gender is how you identify yourself. Then I started to understand.”

Allums began to correct everyone who referred to him with female pronouns; everyone, that is, except his head coach. The person Allums feared telling the most was Bozeman. Comments from the coach about religion had made Allums feel a little uneasy.  He didn’t think his head coach would ever be able to wrap his head around the idea that he was coaching a man on a women’s team. Eventually, the internal pressure to be himself became too great for even Allums’ stubborn strength to repress.

“I was gonna have to hide a piece of me that was really important,” Allums said. “All my teammates knew. I don’t like keeping things from coach; I’m a very open person. It got to the point where I decided I wasn’t going to go through a whole season with my coach not really knowing me, even though I knew it would probably make him feel uncomfortable.”

The moment of truth came one day in June when Bozeman tracked down Allums in his dorm room to talk about another issue. When Allums eventually turned the topic to his transition, it became a difficult conversation. Allums explained, as best he could, that he was a man and had always been a man. When Bozeman asked Allums if God made a mistake, he didn’t know how to respond. It wasn’t going well. But at some point in the conversation, the tone changed.

“Why would you think I wouldn’t have your back?” Allums remembered Bozeman asking. “I’ve had your back through everything. Our relationship has grown from nothing to this, and now you think I’d just turn my back on you because you told me this? No. I love you and I’ll always be here for you.”

A request made through the university to speak to Bozeman was denied. Instead, Bozeman released this statement: “The George Washington University women’s basketball program, including myself, support Kye’s right to make this decision.”

Allums realizes now he should have known better than to assume the worst from his coach.

“Everybody’s pretty much accepting of everyone on the team. Everybody is different,” said Wilson. “We’re teammates, we’re like family. It’s a bunch of brothers and sisters. Everybody brings their life and issues to the family.”

In this basketball family, Allums has become the eccentric big brother. He’s the only player whose major, Interior Design, is artistic in nature. And when teammates get new boyfriends, they have to run them by Allums for approval. Having grown up taking care of his younger siblings, it’s a role that comes naturally.

“If you mess with one of my teammates,” Allums said, “you’re going to have to deal with me.”

Approaching his first women’s basketball season as a man has its potential dilemmas. At the top of the list is the use of locker rooms. While women’s teams have traditionally used the women’s locker room, Washington, D.C., law ensures individuals “the right to use gender-specific restrooms and other gender-specific facilities such as dressing rooms… that are consistent with their gender identity or expression.”

Candace Smith, spokesperson for George Washington University, said, "The university will work with Kye and Kye’s teammates on these issues."

Some opposing fans will be licking their chops to hurl other names at Allums. He has already heard taunts from fans for years: With a masculine build, opposing fans regularly try to insult him, calling him a “man.” What those fans don’t know is that Allums relishes it.

“I love it,” Allums said. “I say, ‘Yeah, you’re right.’ It makes me feel better about myself to hear them call me a man.”

As Allums’ teammate, Wilson doesn’t expect to hear anything the team hasn’t already had to handle.

“They say things about me, they say things about coach, they say things about everybody,” Wilson said. “We’ve been through it all.”

Allums, who started 20 of his team’s 28 games last year, said it’s rare that he hears smack talk from opposing players. According to NCAA spokesperson Jennifer Royer, players are expected to adhere to the NCAA’s code of conduct on the court, and transphobic language falls under that code.

“In addition to educational sessions at the NCAA Convention, Gender Equity and Issues Forum, and other conferences and seminars, [the NCAA] Constitution addresses the principle of sportsmanship and ethical conduct, which outlines the NCAA’s expectation that student-athletes and others associated with athletics programs will adhere to values such as respect and civility,” Royer said.

At some point, questions will come as to whether Allums should be allowed to play on the women’s team. Losing his scholarship was a real concern for Allums just six months ago as the task of fully expressing himself while still playing basketball seemed overwhelming. As he’s educated himself, that fear has dissipated.

In October, the National Center for Lesbian Rights released a report called, “On The Team: Equal Opportunity for Transgender Student Athletes,” in conjunction with It Takes A Team. The report was developed with the help of many subject-matter experts, including the NCAA. One recommendation of the report is for schools to adopt polices that “focus on maximizing inclusiveness, rather than restricting students’ opportunities to participate based on their gender identity or expression.”

According to Royer, as long as Allums does not accept hormone treatments, he is eligible to participate in NCAA women’s sports.

“As the NCAA continues to examine best practices for transgender student-athlete participation,” Royer said, “the member schools are advised to consider the gender classification of student-athletes’ state identification documents, such as driver’s licenses and voter registration, to determine appropriate participation.”

Allums is further protected by Washington, D.C., law, which prohibits discrimination based on gender identity.

The issue remains a complicated one for many to grasp. One coach who asked to remain anonymous said he might have a problem if a team in his conference had a player who identified themselves as a man. The reasoning: Because Allums identifies as a man, everyone should treat him as such and he should be playing men’s sports. Still, Allums’ education is on the line, and he has a scholarship to play on the women’s basketball team. No such scholarship has been extended for him to play on the men’s team.

“There’s not just a one-sentence answer,” said former NCAA basketball head coach Helen Carroll, who co-authored NCLR’s trans-athlete report. “It’s much more complicated than him being a man so he should play men’s sports. Kye as an athlete should have an opportunity to play sports. Period. What that looks like gets complicated because Kye is a transgender athlete.”

Allums has been aware of NCAA regulations for years, and he’s made plans around them. Circled on his calendar is the last possible date he could play in an NCAA game, in April 2012: That’s the date he can begin hormone treatment. Between now and then, he does plan to have sex-reassignment surgery next summer before he plays out his senior season.

“The only thing I can’t do is take testosterone,” Allums said. “And I don’t need that anyway. I probably naturally have more than some of the guys on the guys’ team. If I get surgery, it doesn’t affect my play, it doesn’t enhance anything, I’m just taking something off my body, like if I lost a finger.”

Through all of this, Allums continues to struggle with the “trans” identity. He doesn’t understand why he has to be labeled by some people as “transgender” or “transsexual.” He sees nothing wrong with the label, and his days of viewing trans people as “weird” are long behind him. But at this point in his life, he sees himself as a guy, not “female-to-male.”

Allums does have a regret on his journey. It came when his head coach asked him if he thought God had made a mistake. He’s given that question a lot of thought, and he wishes he could have given a better answer.

“God didn’t make a mistake,” Allums said. “I was meant to be like this for a reason. Clearly my life is going to be different from anyone who was born a biological male, because of what I’ve been through. And I was meant to go through all of this.”

Cyd Zeigler can be reached via email or phone.
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Anthony Jacob Nizza  - Love seeing Kye Allums so honest and open!   |72.45.187.xxx |2010-11-01 18:28:31
Thank you for writing and posting this article. I'm ftm transsexual myself
having made the decision at 39 to transition. Kye is a brave courageous young
man and I'm very proud of what he is doing. Makes me feel very proud to be who I
am!! Thank you Kye Allums!!!!!
nohow  - But you don't know who you are!   |98.82.129.xxx |2010-11-03 19:08:01
Makes me feel very proud to be who I
am!!

Who you say you are now, is not who
you were created to be...
Tony S  - But he does.   |172.129.81.xxx |2010-11-04 05:07:07
I think you are a little confused about transgendered people. In many cases
there is a hormonal bias consistant with the opposite gender. This means the
female has the 'chemical' composition of a male. Also, more often than you'd
like to believe, babies are born 'intersexed' or hermaphroditic (having both
female and male sex organs). Doctors examine the baby, determine the 'dominant'
sex and surgically 'repair the error' (with out conferring with the parents).
More often the 'wiring' or 'internal programming' of a trans-person just doesn't
fit with the physical body. "Transitioning" is the process of making the
outside match the inside through therapy and/or surgery. Kye is changing the
"what he was meant to" to fit with the "who" he was, is and will
be.
Anonymous   |70.112.36.xxx |2010-11-04 17:17:18
What we need to do is destroy the entire gender binary itself.
"Transgender" is flawed because it believes males should become females
or females should become males. What we really need to do is to destroy the line
itself between females and males, and accept a spectrum of gender diversity.
This can be done culturally, and there is no need for someone to have surgery.
Sonia   |130.71.230.xxx |2010-11-07 09:51:46
I used to agree with you, but the fact is that most people do identify within
the gender binary. It's disrespectful to assume that a transgender person's
desire to have surgery is misguided and is done merely to appease cultural
standards. Some people actually are uncomfortable in their physical bodies, and
I respect their right to modify their bodies as they see fit. This is no more or
less legitimate than not undergoing surgery. I understand that you are
attempting to be sensitive, but what you've said seems like a "Gender
Studies 101" stock answer.
Katie L.B.T.  - man what   |63.231.178.xxx |2010-11-24 02:16:42
"Smash the binary" rhetoric is a form of queer transphobia. It
completely ignores the lived experience of trans people and presents our genders
as a form of false consciousness.

"We claim nothing. We know our gender as
revelation." - Rachel Pollack
Dereck  - Cheating   |214.27.58.xxx |2010-11-04 19:08:10
So if it is womens basketball, and I am force to acknowledge this person as a
man. Then why is "He" still playing. This is the one thing being
overlooked. Let him try out for mens basketball. So he can compete among peers.
But playing with the girls affords him an oppurtunity to play basketball and go
to school for free. This is just as wrong as me getting married just for the tax
benefits. Accept who you are and stop playing both sides coward.
yanathan   |174.16.81.xxx |2010-11-04 21:31:24
Read the article again. This issue was not overlooked:

“It’s much more
complicated than him being a man so he should play men’s sports. Kye as an
athlete should have an opportunity to play sports. Period. What that looks like
gets complicated because Kye is a transgender athlete.”

btw... what's with
the namecalling?
Katie L.B.T.   |63.231.178.xxx |2010-11-24 02:20:14
Why should Kye have an opportunity to play sports, "period," just
because he's an athlete? It seems to me that participating in college athletics
is a privilege, not a right - and it's a privilege that is contingent on being
in compliance with the rules of the organization governing your sport (in the
US, this is USUALLY NCAA or NAIA).

Mr. Allum should NOT be competing on a
women's team. This is not just "men on a men's team and women on a women's
team" simplicity - He openly admits to gaming the eligibility rules, and
worse, he is doing so in a way that perpetuates anti-trans bias and prejudice,
not reduces them.

Anti-trans prejudice is based on the idea that we are not the
gender we present to the world. Kye Allum - and many other trans men who want to
remain in women's spaces while transitioning or for years after transition, and
sadly in my mind this includes Shannon Minter, the legal head of NCLR - promote
the idea that trans men are "really" women - and worse, by inversion,
given the greater amount of everyday discrimination that we encounter, the idea
that trans women are "really" men.

The truly radical choice for trans
men would be to advocate for trans women's inclusion in women's spaces - and the
first step to this would be to withdraw from said spaces.
Karen   |76.168.91.xxx |2010-11-04 22:10:08
Coward?! He's braver than you could ever be calling people names from behind
your computer. It takes a lot of strength and courage for transgendered folks to
be who they are in a world with so much bigotry.

Why have separate female and
male teams at all? I assume the reasoning is that women as a whole are smaller
and not as strong as men (for example, my husband and I are both healthy weights
and exercise about the same and he weighs one and a half times as much as me and
builds way more muscle). In short, the reason for having the separate teams
relates to the players' genes and hormones, not to their personal identity as a
male or female. Kye's genes have an XX chromosome and he's not taking
testosterone or anything else to get the performance advantage XY people
naturally have.

For purposes of sports classification, he can be a
"female." Think of it as an XY with no testosterone enhancement league
instead of "woman's league." He identifies as a man and I consider him
one, but his biology (for purposes of what gives one a sports advantage or
disadvantage) is in keeping with league's criteria.

You are probably not an
idiot and probably realize this, but just like to find some phony excuse to
insult people who are brave enough to be who they are to try to intimidate the
world into conformity. In other words, you are a bully.
Isadore   |71.35.13.xxx |2010-11-06 05:41:19
I understand what you mean by the various leagues and that's logical (however
probably quite complicated to create and enforce).
Someone please help me
understand what makes a person decide "who they are". Ignore for this
question those who are born intersexed. Are there factors not listed below that
influence who one decides they are? And which of the following are the biggest
influences?
1. Body (genetilia)
2. Hormone mix/dominance
3. What sex your are
attracted to
4. What sex you want to be attracted to you
5. The role you want
to be - husband or wife (although, the differentation of those roles is probably
a separate and complicated discussion).
Thanks
coydecoy   |216.220.114.xxx |2010-11-07 09:51:22
He should be playing women's basketball, I believe.

Men play men's basketball
and women play women's basketball based on SEX. While his GENDER might be male
but his SEX is still female.

In the same light, someone who was born a male but
identifies as a female would still have to play men's basketball.

The only
confusing part would be if a surgery was performed to make someone physically
different, or if drugs were given. But then, I think they would be barred from
playing because I believe college basketball bars people from taking hormonal
supplements.
REAL  - Wrong   |136.165.119.xxx |2011-04-04 13:28:35
clearly you can't read! He identifies with a man but still is an woman
biolgically!Kye is trangender not sexual!! Clearly you don;t know the different!
Plus why are you so CONCERNED about what he does!! If the world and everybody in
it worried about their damn SELF, instead of being quick to pass judgement and
think they know everything, the world would be a such a BETTER place!!! Until
your in his shoes, you shouldn't speak so negative! Ignorance is not cute or
respected.....be blessed
Oh and FYI..I am not gay, transgender or
transexual,or anything I just support those who do what they need to do for
themselves not to please everyone else.
Diane Compo  - Yes, I Do admire him But...   |68.183.101.xxx |2010-11-09 05:47:15
If he is a man he should be playing in Men's basketball. This is Bull that they
are allowing a guy to play in the woman's league. If the reverse was true she
would demand to be playing in a woman's league. If he is a man he shouldn't
play in the sissy league. What a Puss..
Christine   |68.55.23.xxx |2010-11-20 05:17:14
"Play in the sissy league" and "what a puss" - what's up with
the misogyny Diane?
Max Vincent  - Congrats to Kye!   |97.97.242.xxx |2010-11-01 19:04:05
Rock on! God bless you for coming out and bring who you are; perhaps you have
saved someone's life. I know you have inspired mine.
Roman Bailey  - Transgender man playing NCAA basketball   |174.31.49.xxx |2010-11-01 20:50:27
I can totally relate to this young man and I love that he is being
embraced at his university with this life changing journey...Go Kye!
Sarah  - I love Kye's last line   |76.173.243.xxx |2010-11-01 21:10:35
I am male to female, not that I like that term, as I never considered
myself male, so why male?

Key sounds very, very smart. I could
not agree with his comment more.

Quote:
“God didn’t make a mistake,” Allums said. “I was meant to be like
this for a reason. Clearly my life is going to be different
from anyone who was born a biological male, because of what I’ve
been through. And I was meant to go through all of this.”


I also do not feel that way. I came out a few years ago at 44. I was
always so afraid. What I found out was that I was afraid for so many
years for nothing. I totally understand Key's experience. He was
just much more courageous than I was. Coming out in college, especially
when playing professional college sports is something very special.
Kye is doing a wonderful job educating society and setting a good example.
Maureen Duffy-Boose   |166.70.234.xxx |2010-11-01 21:36:11
Just to say how I admire Kye's strength in finally letting himself be who he is.
I am married to a woman who was born with a male body, and I agree with the
statement that "God didn't make a mistake". Instead I believe that the
bravery of these people who have the courage to become themselves even though
their bodies say differently is a gift from God to show a shining example of
courage to all of us.
Grant   |71.168.87.xxx |2010-11-01 21:36:42
I don't understand why the author of this article insisted on referring to Kye
with female pronouns for one paragraph. Was this to emphasize how
"weird" he is or that he is technically female? If I were him, I'd be
pissed!
Cyd Zeigler   |76.173.234.xxx |2010-11-02 05:32:31
Hi Grant, I'm glad you asked. I spent a long time making sure the article was as
inclusive and positive as possible, focusing on using unoffensive language. I
shared the piece with Kye, several transgender people, GLAAD and others to get
it right. I specifically asked about the paragraph in question. No one raised
any concerns and Kye said he loved the article.

The reason I used female
pronouns for that one paragraph is because I was talking specifically about
Kay-Kay. My fear with using male pronouns when referring to Kay-Kay was that an
uninformed audience (and, unfortunately, most of the gay community is still
horribly uninformed about trans issues) would confuse the issue.

Clearly the
article is not aimed to emphasize that Kye in any way is weird. He is an amazing
guy, and I'm proud to know him!
Hmm...   |98.87.16.xxx |2010-11-02 07:37:18


Exept she is not a 'guy.' Allums is a woman who believes that she is
man. What she need is counseling, not this confused and disgusting article
praising an erroneous belief because it is 'progressive' in this modern time.


You don't tell a person with clinical depression that they are okay and
whatever they believe about themselves is correct. You help them overcome their
disease so that they can enjoy life. You don't help a sick person by telling
them that they are okay because they will only get sicker.

You can distort
and misrepresent Truth, but you will never be able to change it.

Peace and
God bless.
JOEY   |86.135.229.xxx |2010-11-02 10:04:31
You're a dangerous and ignorant person, Hmm. God bless you too. I hope you
recover from your disease soon.
well versed   |76.31.91.xxx |2010-11-03 05:58:12
hey dont get mad because that man typed his opinion he has the right to state
what he thinks he's sick to you because he does'nt agree with it common.give it
a rest.
r.m  - dr   |79.205.229.xxx |2010-11-02 10:07:33
..ha!god bless and peace....u obviously have absolutely NO
idea!!!..please go find peace within yourself..and leave your negative comments
in the confessional.it is obvious that you have no peace within yourself.kye has
found his piece by being honest with himself.you should try it.then you would
have less time to be so judgemental.god bless.ha!go figire....and if you
believed in ayoung dude named jesus..then you would propably know that he
wouldn't have treated his people the way you just did .i wish there was an icon
of a transgender angel here.xeveryone will have up and downs in life...no matter
how they identify. try sharing your fears publicly...go on...i dare
you?????!!!!!x
Khadijah  - Kye Allums   |99.88.48.xxx |2010-11-03 04:32:10
He is brave, and is certainly doing his best to wipe out ignorance. Counseling
does not make it go away. I tried so hard to make that happen. I was a devout
Christian and begged and pleaded with God to heal me. He didn't, and now I
believe that he did not because I was not broke.
Bud  - Transgender is natural   |67.109.25.xxx |2010-11-03 12:42:26
Dear Hmm...

Just because you don't understand it, doesn't make it a sickness.
It is a natural but somewhat rare occurrence during pregnancy (but no more
problematic an outlier than twins, for example) for parts of the brain and
endocrine system to develop more masculine traits in utero, even in cases where
the genitalia are completely female. The same thing can happen vice versa. The
discovery is made gradually by the person as they grow up and gain more
autonomy. It's only a problem if the person or society can't deal with it.


Yes, Kye's genitalia is female, but emotionally, socially, and
psychologically, she is male and has been her whole life. Genitalia isn't
everything, you of all people should know that.

I too used to think
transgender folks just couldn't get over themselves but it turns out there are
many people with parts of their bodies and parts of their personalities that are
in different places on the male/female continuum. They shouldn't be forced to
act a certain way, they should have the freedom to be who they are.

It might
be easier for some to imagine that every person is born and exists their whole
life as a perfectly stereotypical straight boy or a perfectly stereotypical
straight girl. But that's not how it is--there are millions upon millions who
are born and grow up as their own people. It's the job of the rest of us to
accept them, even if we can't understand them.

I'm glad the NCAA and the NCLR
are focusing on "maximizing inclusion."
Shaok  - And you read the article why?   |76.111.38.xxx |2010-11-04 19:15:37
So if the idea of this makes you feel that Kye is "sick" and you are
apparently all about truth...why dont you tell us why you were reading the
article?
Brian   |67.238.173.xxx |2010-11-05 11:06:25
actually, you do tell a clinically depressed person that they're OK. It's an
essential part of the therapy.
bear   |72.198.215.xxx |2010-11-06 01:37:21
that's right!!!!
Lori   |173.26.7.xxx |2010-11-08 09:45:15
AMEN and well said!
James   |69.171.160.xxx |2010-11-02 08:00:07
Thanks for clarifying, I was a little confused myself as to whether he was FTM
or MTF based on the article, I have worked with some transgendered people and
have always tried to refer to them as the gender that they prefer and have
learned quite a bit about transgender issues from them
Joe Clark  - Finally, Outsports admits its “fear”   |70.29.18.xxx |2010-11-04 03:31:46
And here we finally have an admission of the guiding philosophy of Outsports’
editors: Fear.
coach slims   |80.89.178.xxx |2010-11-02 00:25:11
play on boy...
Debbie   |74.209.41.xxx |2010-11-02 03:26:29
This is a wonderful article. I love the way the author transitioned the reader
from Kye as a female to him as a male in the 3rd paragraph. Also, the response
to the God question was perfect. I was thinking the same thing as I was reading
the question. I wish you much happiness and peace in your future Kye.
Sarah   |76.114.215.xxx |2010-11-02 05:04:46
Love this story. Good luck to Allum. But I hope he talks to some people about
getting surgery pre-hormones since it can have an affect.

But not only am I
impressed with him, I am impressed by his team for their support. There's
nothing weird about being born in the wrong body.

xox
Holly Knight   |166.214.109.xxx |2010-11-02 06:51:00
This is fantastic and as a transgender woman I am proud of him. I am sure there
will be difficult times but I wish him all the look and safe journey!
ACE   |66.208.48.xxx |2010-11-02 07:03:47
I too identify as male -- trans, gender-queer, whatever, and I too hate it when
someone cals me "young lady" or tries to include me in girl-talk -- if I
WERE female identified I wouldn't mind, but what galls me is that I can't
identify myself to all of these people, and tell them where I am coming from -
they would say..."oh....um...." and get embarrassed or upset and get out
of my way real fast -- seen it happen too many times. However, I have my friends
who DO love me for who I am, who DO call me He and Sir, who DO ask me "What
pronoun would you prefer?" -- and for that I am more than grateful -- I
am.... HOME.
ROCK ON, KYE!!!!!
Hmm...   |98.87.16.xxx |2010-11-02 07:30:53


Well...sorry to break the news, but humans are either male or female.
'Transgender' people are not 'men' born into a woman's body or 'women' born into
a man's body. They are simply men or women who are confused as to their gender,
usually as a result of a chemical imbalance in their brain or a turbulent
childhood.

Not that I am attacking people like Allums who are believe
themselves to be something they are not. On the contrary those who believe
themselves to be 'transgender' need counseling and perhaps medication like any
other person with a mental of phychological disorder.

The fact is that there
are somethings in life that you cannot 'change' like your sex. In the end you
cannot change reality or truth. You can deny it, and you can question it.
However, if your answer to the biological reality of male and female is 'what is
truth' than the only person who can help you come to a honest understanding of
yourself is you, or God, if you let him.

Peace and God bless.
Anonymous  - reply: hmm..   |208.54.90.xxx |2010-11-02 10:30:58
Id have to agree.
Steven   |68.48.220.xxx |2010-11-02 11:17:02
I understand where you are trying to go with this, but you are wrong for a few
reasons. The first reason is that people aren't always born simply
"male" or "female". There are people born with ambiguous
genitalia. Secondly, you are unfairly using your personal belief that
transgendered individuals have mental disorders to equate us with people who are
dangerous to themselves and need to be medicated. Also, you are confusing the
usage of the words "gender" and "sex". We cannot change way we
were born physically, but gender is separate. Our gender is "between our
ears" not "between our legs". Also,(yes, I've run out of synonyms)
you say you aren't attacking us but as there isn't any scientific proof that
being transgender comes from a "chemical imbalance" or a "turbulent
childhood", it seems that you are using an assumption to justify your
already held beliefs as opposed to getting the facts first. Not to mention that
even if your point was valid coming here to type it was completely unnecessary.
This really doesn't affect you at all.
Melanie   |65.98.226.xxx |2010-11-02 13:55:32
You aren't "breaking the news." You're stating your own beliefs. And
your beliefs, in this instance, are not factually correct.

Transgender people
are real. It is a real experience that some people go through in their lives.
There is nothing to gain from refusing to accept this, and continuing to believe
that transgender people will be better off if they live a lie. What
"cures" transgender people is to live in the gender that is right and,
yes, truthful, for them - the gender they feel.
Patrick  - right...   |96.228.103.xxx |2010-11-02 17:34:00
And I hate to break the news to YOU, but gender is not binary, it is fluid.

A
significant portion of the population identifies as genderqueer (transgender,
transmasculine, transfeminine, etc). Not a LARGE portion, no, but enough of one
so as not to be a fluke.

Other cultures also recognise some form of this ('two
spirited peoples in Native American cultures, third gender peoples in India,
e.g.).

You are entitled to your own opinions. You are not entitled to your
own facts.
Susan  - In your perfect world   |75.211.201.xxx |2010-11-02 18:34:04
Ignorance is bliss - you show it for sure.

ALL fetuses start as FEMALES. Its a
fact. There are two hormonal washes that occur in-utero that effect the physical
development and then the mental development of a fetus.

In your perfect world
all fetuses go through the perfect combination of hormonal washes about 6 weeks
apart.

God or Mother Nature doesn't listen to your fantasy world and sometimes
-- 1 in 300 --- messes up the balance of hormones infused to the fetus.

Some
more or some less of what meets your perfect every person born ether all male or
female requirement. Sex hopefully can be determined at birth via visual
inspection BUT who you are develops over years.

One does not develop a sense
of who they are until they develop the cognition of self versus others.

If its
all made up, WHEN did you sit down and DECIDE that you were - male - female -
when did you DECIDE that you were going to be straight or gay. Please tell us
the day and minute you MADE that decision.

Who we are is not who we love.

Yes
ignorance IS bliss........
Susan
Tony S  - wow   |172.129.81.xxx |2010-11-04 05:19:41
Hey, Susan - very good breakdown! Loving the simplicity. I hope everyone gets a
chance to read it.
Holly Knight  - Those that judge   |74.130.130.xxx |2010-11-03 04:22:04
I have a few thoughts on this comment by Hmmmm. First of all, I think you are
missing the point. Most trans people want to be either male or female and not
both or neither. Secondly, there is so much medical and psychological evidence
that the gender issues is really with the body and not with the brain so there
really is no psychological help that would be helpful. Thirdly, your statements
seem to come from a familiar religious view. I have a few thoughts on that if
you don't mind. One is that at one time religious people were afraid of left
handed people thinking they were of the devil. Were they right? It was a
judgement made by some people for reasons of fear or misunderstanding or
ignorance. Today, religious people are against transgender people. For fear,
misunderstanding or ignorance. God has made no mistake in creating a person
with a mistaken body just as He made no mistake in creating a Down Syndrome
child. There are birth defects of all sorts of the mind and of the body. I had
a Christian minister once remind me that God created us in His image, both Male
and Female! Get it? Most/Many trans people were born with a physical defect,
that is clear. Now how to fix it? Fix the brain or fix the body? To me, that
seems so simple.
Norma   |71.76.157.xxx |2010-11-03 15:25:11
I agree...
Kye IS AND WILL ALWAYS BE A FEMALE. No surgery will ever change
that. This like many other individuals is confused and does not know who she is
but she is not a man...
ha!   |75.155.235.xxx |2010-11-03 17:03:46
I love it when cis people tell trans people what they are! Yay!
Anonymous  - re:   |173.190.37.xxx |2010-11-27 08:51:41
Karen wrote:
Coward?! He's braver than you could ever be calling people names from
behind your computer. It takes a lot of strength and courage
for transgendered folks to be who they are in a world with so much
bigotry.

Why have separate female and male teams at all? I assume the
reasoning is that women as a whole are smaller and not as strong as
men (for example, my husband and I are both healthy weights and exercise
about the same and he weighs one and a half times as much as me and
builds way more muscle). In short, the reason for having the separate teams
relates to the players' genes and hormones, not to their
personal identity as a male or female. Kye's genes have an XX
chromosome and he's not taking testosterone or anything else to get the
performance advantage XY people naturally have.

For purposes of
sports classification, he can be a "female." Think of it as an
XY with no testosterone enhancement league instead of
"woman's league." He identifies as a man and I consider him
one, but his biology (for purposes of what gives one a sports advantage or
disadvantage) is in keeping with league's criteria.

You
are probably not an idiot and probably realize this, but just like to
find some phony excuse to insult people who are brave enough to be who they
are to try to intimidate the world into conformity. In other words,
you are a bully.[/quote]
Devon Michael wrote:
Thank you very much for this article. As a 42y.o. transman I read
myself in Kye Allums' story. I applaud him on his courage. I
struggled with identity since I was old enough to know the difference
but resisted the urge to merge body and mind due to family and religious
considerations.  Thank you young man for being so bold and
telling your story so that another little person won't feel
weird.[/quote]
Devon Michael wrote:
Thank you very much for this article. As a 42y.o. transman I read
myself in Kye Allums' story. I applaud him on his courage. I
struggled with identity since I was old enough to know the difference
but resisted the urge to merge body and mind due to family and religious
considerations.  Thank you young man for being so bold and
telling your story so that another little person won't feel
weird.[/quote]
Katie L.B.T. wrote:
Why should Kye have an opportunity to play sports, "period," just
because he's an athlete? It seems to me that participating in
college athletics is a privilege, not a right - and it's a privilege
that is contingent on being in compliance with the rules of the
organization governing your sport (in the US, this is USUALLY NCAA or
NAIA).

Mr. Allum should NOT be competing on a women's team. This is not
just "men on a men's team and women on a women's team"
simplicity - He openly admits to gaming the eligibility rules, and worse,
he is doing so in a way that perpetuates anti-trans bias
and prejudice, not reduces them.

Anti-trans prejudice is based on
the idea that we are not the gender we present to the world. Kye Allum -
and many other trans men who want to remain in women's spaces while
transitioning or for years after transition, and sadly in my mind this
includes Shannon Minter, the legal head of NCLR - promote the idea
that trans men are "really" women - and worse, by inversion, given
the greater amount of everyday discrimination that we encounter, the
idea that trans women are "really" men.

The truly radical
choice for trans men would be to advocate for trans women's inclusion
in women's spaces - and the first step to this would be to withdraw from
said spaces.[/quote][quote=nohow]Makes me feel very proud to be who
I
am!!

Who you say you are now, is not who you were created to be...
[quote=Bud]Dear Hmm...

Just because you don't understand it, doesn't
make it a sickness. It is a natural but somewhat rare occurrence
during pregnancy (but no more problematic an outlier than twins, for
example) for parts of the brain and endocrine system to develop more
masculine traits in utero, even in cases where the genitalia
are completely female. The same thing can happen vice versa. The
discovery is made gradually by the person as they grow up and gain more
autonomy.  It's only a problem if the person or society can't deal
Bunny   |206.154.105.xxx |2010-11-02 09:47:57
if as the article says "Allums explained, as best he could, that he was a
man and had always been a man." then why playing on a women's team?


seriously. no hate here at all in fact kudos for being true ... but if Kye
is a guy, then does he really belong on a women's team?
Sarah  - Same thought and additional comment   |76.173.243.xxx |2010-11-02 10:20:18
I had the same thought about Kye. Since he came out, will have surgery, then he
should take hormones and play on the men's team. I totally mean no disrespect,
and in fact I praise him for his courage, but if he identifies as a male and is
accepted as such by his couch, then he belongs on the men's team. By the same
token, if a transgender woman plays sports, then she should be on the women's
team.

The negative comment of the individual above in some sense is correct.
Kye was born a man, is a man, and will be a man. People should not make
themselves God.
Patrick  - um, no   |96.228.103.xxx |2010-11-02 17:37:05
"then he should take hormones and play on the men's team"

And if he
doesn't WANT to take hormones? Not every trans individual does, will, or even
wants to.

Every transition is a personal journey, and no one should ever
dictate how someone else should transition.
Anonymous   |76.226.89.xxx |2010-11-03 18:42:09
Then he should NOT take hormones, but still play on the men's team (if he makes
the team). If you want to play women's sports you should be a woman.
Eric   |147.226.129.xxx |2011-04-14 08:08:35
Kye said in the article he had the date of his last game marked so that he could
take hormones.

Just thought I would point that out. No one should dictate
his journey, but you should read carefully before commenting.
wrong team boo   |209.118.181.xxx |2010-11-02 11:36:29
totally thinkn the same :/
Melanie   |65.98.226.xxx |2010-11-02 14:22:03
I hear the point that transgender athletes should be able to play on the team
that fits with their gender, but I think that the quote from Helen Carroll in
the article is right:

There’s not just a one-sentence answer,” said
former NCAA basketball head coach Helen Carroll, who co-authored NCLR’s
trans-athlete report. “It’s much more complicated than him being a man so he
should play men’s sports. Kye as an athlete should have an opportunity to play
sports. Period. What that looks like gets complicated because Kye is a
transgender athlete.”

There's something wrong with anyone who isn't Kye
telling him that he needs to start taking hormones. Why can't we recognize a
person's gender identity - their name, pronouns, how they want to be seen -
without telling him that he needs hormones? If we want to loosen the chokehold
that gender has on our society, and I think most of us reading this do, then
maybe we need to let go a little and keep in mind that the priority should be
making sure that as many trans athletes can participate in sports as possible.
Most of us would be angry if someone told us that if a woman wants to be
recognized as a woman, she can't do something (wear pants, be a second parent to
a child who has another female parent, whatever) that people associate with men.
So let's let there be a "he" on the women's team, so long as he meets
the eligibility requirements - which this particular "he" does.
loving the haters   |206.213.209.xxx |2010-11-05 10:57:54
“As the NCAA continues to examine best practices for transgender
student-athlete participation,” Royer said, “the member schools are advised
to consider the gender classification of student-athletes’ state
identification documents, such as driver’s licenses and voter registration, to
determine appropriate participation.”

The fact of the matter is, Kye is
playing on the women's team because the system is archeic.
Aisha Bailey   |184.200.91.xxx |2010-11-02 10:09:20
I love the fact that this article was written. Kye i commend you with great
praise and im sure the whole Lgbt community as well as myself will not stand
behind you but beside you, because we are a family constantly havimg to explain
ourselves unnecessarily to ignorant, close minded or uneducated people with such
a matter. We unknowingly mold ourself to society's version of the norm of what
we should be as a man or a woman for example when a child is born they
automatically choose a pink hat for girls and and a blue hat for boys bc that is
what is considered normal. As a child grows up regardless of how they may feel
inside they are still molded to what they feel society should label them as
which may or may not cause confusion. The truth is the only person who knows
whats inside is that person, dont judge from the outer appearance because its
only an outer shell. You dont know the journey of someone until you ve walked
in their shoes.

Xoxo
Andrew  - Just a thought...   |70.88.88.xxx |2010-11-03 15:33:29
First - Congratulations Kye for being proud, honest and true to yourself.  Also Thank You Georgetown for being true to one of the Jesuit ideals (openness) I prize most in my
own education. This brave man has taken a big step, not only
for himself but for the LGBT communities as a whole.  I hope that
other people are empowered to express their gender as they truly are. One
word of caution to Aisha, as a chubby gay man, I can say from personal
experience, the LGBT communities don't always stand beside one of their own
- let's hope someday that can change because the real adversaries are
the ignorant and intolerant! Peace, Drew
Meaghan   |71.76.216.xxx |2010-11-02 10:26:46
As a homosexual female I can say that it takes a lot to come out and admit to
the world that you are by societies definition "different". People do
not realize the difficulty and the struggles that the LGBTQ endure. Instead of
bashing Kye we need to be congratulating him.

“God didn’t make a
mistake,” Allums said. “I was meant to be like
this for a reason. Clearly my
life is going to be different
from anyone who was born a biological male,
because of what I’ve
been through. And I was meant to go through all of
this.”

So here are my congratulations to Kye. I am happy that you are who
you know you are meant to be DESPITE WHAT IGNORANT AND CLOSE MINDED PEOPLE
believe. I would like to state that being trans-gendered and homosexual is not a
disease. In fact it is a way of life, the same as heterosexual people. I would
like to say that I admire your strength Kye and wish you the best of luck. Be
true to yourself and stay strong!
Brody  - No Mistake   |70.176.79.xxx |2010-11-02 11:19:21
God does not make mistakes. It is people who make the mistake of trying to
interpret what they do not understand by their limited scope of experience,
religious dogma and ungrounded fears.

If God did not intend transgender,
intersex, and all other flavors of gender diversity to exist, we would simply
not be here. Give God credit for having more imagination and fewer limitations
than the average human.

We Exist, have always existed, will always exist. We on
the whole scale of the gender continuum Exist. And we are not
"mistakes."
Lynn  - How will this effect basketball overall   |65.188.156.xxx |2010-11-02 13:29:28
I do agree with the people above, you think you are a man and want to become
one, you should play with the boys. However, this might cause major issues. What
if men who are weak in men basketball have transgender surgery just to be
dominant in women's basketball? College basketbal you may be able to get away
with this but what if they are trying to go pro? The NBA and WNBA is a whole
different ball game. Im just sayin....
X   |98.244.172.xxx |2010-11-02 16:52:11
This is not something people to do get an edge in sports. Would you or any of
your cis-gendered (non-trans) friends ever consider changing their sex just to
be able to be on a different spots team? I highly doubt many people would
actually entertain going to that extremity.

Since Kye is not on hormones yet,
his physical performance is the same as the women's. Hence why he is allowed on
the team still. Once he starts them, his physical performance will be the same
as the men, and then he will not be allowed to play on the women's team. To me
this is a perfectly acceptable situation.
kangent   |174.21.204.xxx |2010-11-02 18:45:13
I have a problem with this. As the WNBA has demonstrated this season very
beautifully, women are just as capable players as men. The physical advantages
are mythical. It's the same with the whole "black people are better because
they are taller." There will probably never be desegregated pro sports in my
lifetime, but the marginalization of womens' skills in the sports arenas is BS.


You may want to cite statistics at this point, but I will challenge you to
look at the history of the evolution of the sport. It is a sport famous for its
quick evolution of skill and variety. The womens' teams have been getting
exponentially better every year and are breaking all the stereotypes down around
their bodies and their game. Chances are, as Kye's skill grows, it won't be
because he starts taking T (if he chooses to do so); it'll be because he's
dedicated to improving his game.
Ger  - Ha   |174.6.201.xxx |2010-11-02 17:12:12
Yes, I'm sure men will be lined up for those sex changes so they can play in the
lucrative world of women's basketball.
Anonymous   |173.190.37.xxx |2010-11-27 09:01:02
LOL funny!!!
Isadore  - Why is he playing Women's Basketball   |71.35.13.xxx |2010-11-02 13:31:14
Apparently the NCAA eligibility is based on the biological form of one's body,
otherwise it seems they would not allow him to play on a women's team. If he is
a man then why is he playing on a women's basketball team? Is it not confusing
for a person like him to choose to live in both worlds?
kangent   |174.21.204.xxx |2010-11-02 17:15:35
One criticism: The terminology used to explain Kye's gender dysphoria is
cissexist. I think it's important to keep in mind that "male" and
"female" are terms created to delineate between "two" sexes
whose only differences really are genitalia. Even estrogen and testosterone
levels are too variant within people with these two sets of genitalia to make
any statements on that subject. Additionally, it leaves out intersexed
indiviuals.

"Male" and "female", whether "biologically"
or "-bodied", are cissexist and binarist terms. There are plenty of
trans* bodies who may, like myself, have vaginas and identify as genders besides
"woman", but do not feel like our bodies are "female." They are
assigned that gender designation at birth. And then there are many trans* who
wish to evolve their bodies into something that they feel is more right for
them. Both situations are fine, but neither are choosing "male" or
"female" bodies. They are choosing the body the feel most comfortable
and happy with, whether or not that requires surgery.

I think the key is that
this system focuses on "biology" as the focus of identification, which
is a field thoroughly dominated by cisgender folks and steeped in a culture of
pathologizing. And it erases all nonbinary gender expressions. Gender is not a
spectrum between male and female, and it is not dependent on those two. Although
Kye is binary trans, it is important to remember that trans* identities (and so
language used to describe transgender folk, of any identification) is broader
than the binary.

Just some thoughts.
Cyd Zeigler   |76.173.234.xxx |2010-11-03 07:14:30
Thanks kangent! Yes, many trans people do not identify gender as binary. In this
case, Kye always referred to gender as binary - so I respected his perspective
on it while writing the story. But I certainly respect the perspective of those
who see it differently!
kangent   |174.21.204.xxx |2010-11-03 16:52:50
Absolutely! I think what I was trying to say is that you can address and
validate a binary identity without using language that reinforces cissexist and
binarist portrayals of trans* experience. Since my comment was cut off, I'm not
sure whether you got to read the rest of it:

Basically, it was saying that
associating "female" and "male" with bodies, whether or not its
intentional, misrepresents gender and biology. And that, regardless of whom you
are writing about, reinforces the cultural erasure of nonbinaries. There are
many trans* folk who, like myself, have vaginas but don't view our bodies as
"female." And then there are trans* folk who want to transform their
bodies. Either is fine. The key is not to switch our bodies from "male"
to "female", but to evolve our bodies into something we are comfortable
and happy with.
ckd   |71.210.188.xxx |2010-11-02 18:45:34
Sounds like Kye wants it both ways. He wants to be recognized as a male for all
practical purposes EXCEPT he wants to play it so he can keep his scholarhip and
play basketball...do you really see yourself as a male or not? If so, move on
and leave the women's game behind. No offense, but playing Women's basketball
only confusses the idently issue.
Sophia  - Ms   |81.101.253.xxx |2010-11-03 01:27:29
"Hmm hate to break the truth but...." Funny how in every comments
section in every article covering these issues we find "Hmm hate to break
the truth but men are men and women are women and sheep are worried" coming
from some self righteous drone who then pours scorn and ridicule, makes an
irrelevant point or discusses the mental health of the individual in the
article, it's very repetitive and irritating.

Well "Hmm I have some
news" such drones do not have the right to dictate other people's lives,
they do not have any mandate from religion to dictate, they know practically
nothing about the biology of sex differentiation (As they claim to all the time)
and yes they are acting out of narrow minded malice and I would challenge any of
them to engage in intelligent conversation instead of just grunting insults at
people.
AWESOME   |64.66.92.xxx |2010-11-03 06:28:04
Great article, however if it weren't for this article, I was under the
impression that he was a guy wanting to become a girl. Clearly even the
pictures of him looks to me like a guy more than a girl.

The world is
changing, and things aren't as black and white as they once were.
Some have a
hard time understanding their gender, because to believe in God is to know that
everything he creates is perfect, yet to have 'identity' changed is in a way
admitting that God created you wrong, and you need to correct it. But at the
same time God helped man create the advancements in medicine that makes these
operations possible.
The only thing I think is funny is here is someone with
the mindset of a guy, showering with the women's basketball team! HA! Kye, my
friend, I WELCOME you to a Man's world. you're living the dream of most men
already!

In the end, if it is possible that we can bring someone peace and
happiness in this world... then that is all that God has ever wanted!!!
Buccoman   |216.249.168.xxx |2010-11-03 06:45:29
Maybe I am just totally ignorant but I find it disconcerting that a man is
playing hoops on a women's team. It diminshes the significance of everything he
has done, imho. Can anyone explain the socio/psychological factors that are
involved here because I don't get it. I even had to read the story twice to
make sure I understood that this was about a trans man playing on a women's
team,, rather than a trans woman playing on a women's team
Kris Kidd  - Check out   |98.238.183.xxx |2010-11-03 08:14:54
Check out the website www.genderrevolution.com and watch the videos...they will
explain to you Trans issues....
renee   |74.226.113.xxx |2010-11-03 08:00:40
"WHY SOOO SERIOUS". We have so much HATE in this world that for some
reason that "All queers go to HELL"! Not nessarily so. Only God make
that decision. You heard my GOD! Not your minister from the pulpit, not family
members or society. ONLY GOD KNOWS! You heard in the scriptures that "Men
should not lay down other men" -nah. I believe that some sick prophet (LIE)
to use GOD name to write this verse because -well I won't go in detail -
IMAGINE. Also, TRUE-BELIEVERS, Do you remember that LOT had sex with his
daughters because he thought that the world was ending, so he had to bring
salavation back to the planet, - Now who's judging him for that - mmm. If we are
all CHRISTIANS (check yourself) then we all are to surpose to LOVE one another
-RIGHT. IT DOESN'T MATTER, if Kyle was a midget, a 8ft giant, whatever. We are
all made differently under GOD who is our CREATOR - right.(THINK). This world
could hace been a better place to live in "if we can all just get
along". We are to stop JUDGING other people, races, etc. So I'll ask the
question again, "WHY SOOO SERIOUS"!
TRUE-BELIEVER  - TRUE-BELIEVER   |146.18.173.xxx |2010-11-04 11:32:07
Renee,

It's kind of ironic that you would select that story as a basis for
your position. Although you are correct in stating that Lot slept with his
daughters, you only stated half the story. The other half to that story is Lot's
daughters got him drunk and went in to him for the purposer of getting pregnant
because of the fact they had to leave Sodom and Gomorrah which was destroyed by
God because of HOMOSEXUAL acts being performed by the men of that city.
(wouldn't ya say that was kinda ironic)

But don't take my word for it, feel
free to read it on your own and make your own decisions it written in the
Chrisitan bible in the book of Genesis, chapter 19 verses 30-36 specifically
about the situtation with Lot and his daughters but feel free to read from verse
1 for the entire story about Sodom.

Good luck...
TRUE-BELIEVER  - TRUE, TRUE-BELIEVER   |146.18.173.xxx |2010-11-04 12:00:33
Also, here's the other scripture that you were trying to quote/comment on:
As a
quick bible study, this chapter of Leviticus is God telling Moses about unlawful
sexual acts. He's informing Moses of what men should NOT do sexually. Homosexual
acts was just one of the "topics" discussed. He also talks about sexual
relations with any family members, married neighbor and parents, etc... thusly,
proving that God didn't agree with what occured in Genesis 19:30-36. On to the
scripture: Leviticus 18:22 states:“Do not have sexual relations with a man as
one does with a woman; that is detestable."

I'm not sure what you are
alluding to with the prophet statement above but it is written that the message
came directly from God to a prophet... NOT a prophet alone. It seems like you
may need to study some more, especially before quoting...
TRUE-BELIEVER  - TRUE-BELIEVER - Finally   |146.18.173.xxx |2010-11-04 12:21:47
Finally, as a true-believer and doer of the Word of God, I do love Kay-kay.
Kay-kay is probably a very beautiful person. Romans 12:9 states "Love must
be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good." Kay-kay as a person
is probably good, a real nice person. But what she and the others of this
mindset are believing in this instance would be the "evil" part. In
other words NOT of God, considered outside of His divine will and an
abomination. That's not me judging anyone's actions, thoughts or beliefs, I'm
just expressing the written facts which are stated in Leviticus chapter
18.

Ok, bible study is over...Ephesians 1:17
...wow...  - LOL   |167.199.187.xxx |2010-11-03 08:03:34
This argument will go on forever and ever. You're born man or woman. If she
wants to be a he....then do you! If he wants to be a she.....then do you too.
As long as we are realistic about it! A man has NEVER had a baby. NEVER! And
will NEVER have a baby. So that mess....can go out the window. Allums will
NEVER impregnate a woman. That is fact. I figure....two things...
1.) as long
as your sins don't interfere with my life, and you are a good person at
heart.....we are good!
and...
2.) stay factual about the reality of
transgender people. women (who transfer to men) don't have sperm that carry
babies...and men (who transfer to women) cannot get pregnant.

The
rest....leave it in God's hands.
Peace and Blessings
Kris Kidd   |98.238.183.xxx |2010-11-03 08:13:04
I think this is a great article and thanks to Kye for sharing himself. Across
the United States Gender is becoming 'the' issue on campus. Young Adults are
claiming their true selves and Kye will hopefully be the first of many who feel
like they can share their story. At California State University, Chico we have
started a Transgender Task Force to help make the students journey a community
one. We educate on Gender and Sexuality, and have seen awesome results in 2
years. Don't be afraid, imagine living with a free heart. Have a GREAT season
Kye!
Hmm Me too  - Two things, maybe more   |173.217.43.xxx |2010-11-03 09:55:13
No matter how embracing we are as a society, one is a gender by birth and not by
mind. What happens in the mind is complex. Sin is generational though and
struggles with it are. However, God loves all people and all can be delivered
from sin's bondage.

It is strange to allow a 'man' to stay on a woman's
team. The person is asking for privaleges, not rights. People can't be free by
living a lie more fully no matter how many believe it with them and support it.
It is still a lie and will be bondage.
Hmm Me too   |173.217.43.xxx |2010-11-03 09:59:43
What I said there about privilage is that it is a sociopathic mentality to want
it all and think they deserve it regardless of any rules or expectations.
Women's team gives up expectation, and no standard for sexual life is there.
"Everyone should accept what I want."
Bianca Poindexter   |68.118.118.xxx |2010-11-03 10:30:14
This is a truly and inspiring message. I know what i is like to try and hide
such a big part of yourself and it is not easy. Stepping up and finally being
the person he was meant to be was huge. He risked everything by doing this but
knew that it was worth the risk. I identify with the fact that you have to be
your hwole self and not just half of yourself or a shell of what you want to be.
This is a truly inspiring story. He is the first and I hope this encourages
others like him/her to know that sometimes it is worth the risk and it could
have a silver lining at the end. Truly amazing, wonderful, inspiring, and
emotional story and transformation. Good Luck Kye with your surgery and a future
filled with blessings (because yes u are one) and amazing/beautiful happiness.
Anonymous   |66.97.145.xxx |2010-11-03 11:09:40
GOD DID NOT MAKE YOU A MAN BUT, A WOMAN
ha!   |75.155.235.xxx |2010-11-03 17:09:55
well if your imaginary sky fairy made him a woman, then the flying spaghetti
monster fixed the mistake.
Anonymous   |97.141.172.xxx |2010-11-03 11:23:15
Because these are all opinions, noone is right or wrong because they're all
OPINIONS!!!! I am a gay female who dresses what some may consider 'boyish' but I
have absolutely no desire to be transformed into someone else. I wish Kye would
embrace this idea. For those who think its a disease......really, its 2010! I
never understood why the public thinks that this is a choice or disease, after
all the suicide and bullying subjectiveness. If you don't like it, don't read
articles, don't give input or insight on the issue. Just move. On to the next
one and keep your negative comments and feelings inside.
Anonymous   |152.2.199.xxx |2010-11-04 04:03:52
Where your opinion goes into wrong is when you attempt to demand Kye accept it
for himself. There is nothing wrong with how you present yourself (I, as a
trans woman, tend to dress in a way that can be described similarly, in fact)
but you do not have the right to demand Kye identify in your way rather than
his.
Will  - Has anyone actually read the definition of "transg   |184.153.178.xxx |2010-11-03 12:01:03
Kye Allums seems like a strong, intelligent, personable individual. I hope that
I am not labeled as a "hater" of any sort as I have tolerance for all
living things...

I do, however, feel the need to make a point which -
though not critical to this issue - is an important one. I feel strongly that
the word "transgender" is misused in this case.

The prefix 'trans' is
derived from Latin and means "across, over, or beyond". 'Gender' is
defined as "the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically
associated with one sex". Since Allums has always identified as male, I
would argue that the word "transgender" has been mis-applied here since
NOTHING about Allums has changed. The inclusion of the prefix 'trans' implies
that a change of some sort has taken place, which is not the case here...
Elly   |69.91.143.xxx |2010-11-03 13:21:02
I think what Allums is crossing is the social boundary between genders -- he was
assigned the status of girl/woman, and he's asserting that he's actually a man.
It doesn't mean a change has taken place; all his life in one sense or another,
he's been fighting being assigned to live on the wrong side of that boundary
from where he belonged internally. The "trans" prefix seems appropriate
to the experience of having to carve out one's identity across that social
boundary.

I don't think you sound like a hater, though, and you're probably
right that the term originally arose from the often-mistaken view that
transgendered people *changed* their genders, rather than just having been
mistakenly labeled all along. But better understandings of experiences like
Allums's don't seem to me to invalidate the term; they just change our sense of
the way in which these boundaries are cutting through people's lives.
Dawn  - Why is that....   |24.249.44.xxx |2010-11-03 12:18:36
I do not understand why people who hold to traditional values are considered
bigots. Why is it so wrong to the values you were taught, grew up believing and
still adhere to today? As society changes and accepts more and more attitudes
and alternative lifestyles, it does not mean that we are bad people because we
refuse to conform to something we've believed in all of our lives.

I do not
believe that God made a mistake. We are either born male or female, it is the
way God created us. That is what I believe. This person choses to believe
differently. I chose to disagree with them. Why does that make me a bigot. I do
not believe that pedophiles have a right to have sexual relationships with
children. Should society change its mind about that, I will still continue to
believe that it is wrong. It doesn't mean I do not love people or God or I am
standing in the way of someone elses freedom of expression. I chose to disagree
with them as much as they are chosing to disagree with me.

I believe Kye or
Kay is going to have a very difficult, isolated and challenging life. But she is
making the choice because that's the road she wants to follow. I don't have to
follow after her and just agree with whatever she is saying concerning her
sexuality is true just because she believes it. Kids still believe in Santa
Claus, one day they will realize it's mom or dad, or whomever putting those
presents under the tree. Just because they believe it, doesn't make it true, but
they are free to hold on to their belief until reality slaps them in the
face.

The first time Kye tries to compete with men on a men's basketball
team, in a male locker room, reality will slap her in the face. I hate that she
will be hurt by it, but it's her choice.
Holly  - Enough is enough   |74.130.130.xxx |2010-11-06 06:43:27
Some facts many either don't know or don't remember or ignore: 1) Birth
Defects. This is a fact so stop with the God doesn't make mistakes. There are
so many birth defects that are just caused by issues with DNA. Let alone other
causes that are not man made. So, really, since we KNOW birth defect exist and
we know God doesn't make mistakes then we have to assume that these
"mistakes" at birth are from other sources or just happens. So, let's
stop with the "God doesn't make mistakes" argument since we know He does
not but birth defect do exist. And by the way, without this argument, you have
no argument now. So, as a Christian, if you are, show the love of Christ as he
loved instead of this hate and anger.
Gwendolyn Spencer   |68.230.135.xxx |2010-11-07 08:26:05
Dawn,

You only become a bigot when you let your beliefs dictate how you treat
other people in regards to equality and civil liberties under the law. Those
who use their religious beliefs to determine who should and should not have
equal civil rights under the law are the bigots.

There are many laws in the Old
Testament passages quoted here which are not followed. The bigots are the ones
who also pick and choose which ones to follow and which to ignore. According to
the Old Testament, people who eat shellfish or pork are as guilty of sin as men
who "lay with men as with women". So why aren't shellfish and pork
eaters or those who continually violate the 10 Commandments denied equal civil
rights. It's one thing to call people sinners by your religious values, ideas
whatever. It's quite another to deny them equal treatment as humans and
citizens. The first is an opinion based on religious beliefs. The second is
outright bigotry.

I could go on but I've made my point.

Pax,
Gwendolyn
Anonymous   |97.67.158.xxx |2010-11-03 12:24:52
I can't tell this Kye person what to do with her life...but I can tell you this.
If she wants to be called a Male... and if GW considers her a male then she
should have to try out for the Male Basketball team...

The hypocrisy in this
is simply amazing.

"I want to be a male...but I want the benefits of
being female."

Make her try out for the Men's team if you are willing
to identify her has a man.

Shame on you GW...
child pleeeeeeeease   |71.50.168.xxx |2010-11-03 12:52:19
Nobody will take her seriously. There are plenty of lesbos dykes who play
sports, just like she doesn. Dime a dozen. Like others have said, if she wants
to be a "man", then she needs to go all the way - quit playing on the
girls team and join a men's team. That scholarship was meant for a girl player
- not a "man."
Elly   |69.91.143.xxx |2010-11-03 13:10:09
I'm a little taken aback by Allums's comment that if he were a woman, he'd be
wearing makeup and doing his nails. There are plenty of women out there who
haven't the least interest in makeup or manicures, but whose identity as women
is completely solid. For that matter, there are men who do like those things,
but their identity as men is just as solid. It's a mistake to equate
nonconformance with conventional gender roles with being transgendered -- gender
identity goes a lot deeper than what one prefers to wear...

For that matter,
the world of transgender people does include some people who comfortably conform
to their assigned norms in terms of appearance, interests, and so forth, but
still realize that none of that actually makes them the gender that people are
trying to label them with -- they're actually "butch" women being
mistaken for men, or "femme" men being mistaken for women. They're just
as genuinely transgendered, though, as people like Allums to whom society has
assigned *both* the wrong gender and the wrong set of supposedly-gendered norms
to go with it.
Elly   |69.91.143.xxx |2010-11-03 14:04:47
Oops, I guess I wrote too much! I was trying to say at the end that people who
fit their assigned gender norms but not their assigned gender identities are
just as genuinely transgendered as people like Allums who have experienced being
assigned *both* the wrong gender identity, and the wrong set of
supposedly-gendered norms to go with it.
kangent   |174.21.204.xxx |2010-11-03 17:05:42
Hear, hear! That's my exact experience. I feel a lot of pressure to act in a way
that expresses my gender in a normal way to convince folks I'm trans* when it's
not who I want to be. I AM trans*, even if they don't think I look or act like
it. The key is I'm not binary trans. I use binary pronouns, but my gender
doesn't fit into that. And I'm seeing a lot of these binarist presumptions about
gender and bodies coming into play in this article and the discussion.
Anonymous  - cool breeze   |173.79.29.xxx |2010-11-03 13:45:02
hey put yourself in his shoes wat if
you were him and grow up
Joanne Mercer   |99.92.131.xxx |2010-11-03 15:16:43
She was born a female and will always be one.
Elizabeth K  - Good dialog   |24.252.119.xxx |2010-11-03 15:30:51
I read many articles on transsexuality because I am a moderator on a gender
dysphiria support site, where the emphasis is on preventing suicide. Suicide is
very prevelant in the trans community as society is very hostile toward a
condition we were probably born with. BUT this discussion board is 90% filled
with constructive comments. Usually it is the other way around. And the
article is generally well written, KUDOS! It gives me hope for the future.
Jake   |69.136.189.xxx |2010-11-03 16:44:03
Posting in chunks...part 1

To those of you who believe that there are two
distinct sexes--that we are created physically male or female and that is
all--you may be surprised to know that it is estimated that EVERY DAY surgeons
perform surgery on FIVE newborn infants (without their consent and sometimes
even without their parents' consent) in order to change their
"ambiguous" genitalia to what some doctor decides is more
"conforming." In other words, there are many children born every day
who cannot be immediately labeled as male or female based soley on their outward
appearance. These individuals are referred to as INTERSEX (google it).
Surgeons are literally performing sex "assignment" surgery on them at
birth. So, hey, that kinda refutes your premise, doesn't it?
Jake   |69.136.189.xxx |2010-11-03 16:45:11
posting in chunks....part 2

I'm not even going to go into all of the gender
diversity that exists in nature, because we're talking about people here, not
fish that spontaneously change sex or turtles whose sex is determined by the
temperature at which their egg was incubated (these are both real). Let's take
it a step further....researchers have identified an area in our brains where our
gender identity--our sense of who we are as far as feeling like a man or
woman--is located. This can control things like our natural inclinations, our
personalities, how we relate to other people, and our chemistry with people to
whom we are attracted. If our external, physical bodies can appear to be
ambiguous as far as sex goes (whether due to genetic, hormonal, or other reasons
or factors in human development), isn't it also possible for our brains (also a
physical structure in our bodies) to be ambiguous as well? Or at least
potentially "out of sync" with our exterior bodies? Surgically or not,
we get "assigned" a sex at birth. From that assignment (male or
female), society expects that you will have a gender identity (a sense of who
you are) that society recognizes as conforming with your assigned sex at birth.
Unfortunately this is not always the case. In fact, in many cases it is
incorrect to varying degrees. Some of these people will identify as transgender
as a way of indicating that their gender identity/assigned sex combination is
not one that is typical. Some will feel so strongly about their gender identity
that they will change their outward appearance to be in sync with it. I am one
of these people. So is Kye.
Jake   |69.136.189.xxx |2010-11-03 16:45:51
posting in chunks...part 3

Intersex people exist. I know many. Transgender
people exist. I know a whole lot of them. Transsexual people exist. I know a
whole lot of them too. From what I have read, this condition has been
documented in so many different times, cultures, and continents as to be
considered a general fact of human existence. So, are we going to continue to
say "people are only born male or female" when clearly that is not true?
Are intersex people a mistake? Are transgender people a mistake? Is a person
born with a genetic disease or no arms and legs a mistake? That seems to be a
judgment call--in other words, your opinion. Personally, I don't think any
person is a mistake. I do believe in a force in the universe that I call God.
I don't believe God makes mistakes. So, here's my question, people like myself
and Kye have done what we needed to do to live our lives in what we know to be
our truth. Why does that mean that we are saying "God made a mistake?"
God made us transgender, giving us a particular journey and particular obstacles
to overcome. If the person born with the genetic disease seeks out treatment
for that disease, is he saying God made a mistake? If the person born with no
arms or legs gets prothetic limbs, is he saying that God made a mistake? I
don't think so. We are all doing what we need to do to survive and overcome the
circumstances that were handed to us. Maybe this is what God wanted us to
do....did you ever think of that? My second question is: why does it matter to
you? What investment do you have in whether I am male or female? I have never
understood people's need to define other people and tell them who they are.
Jake   |69.136.189.xxx |2010-11-03 16:46:40
posting chunks...part 4

Of one thing I am convinced: if you are not
transgender, you will never truly understand what it is like. Period. You can
imagine, you can empathize, but deep down, you will never really know the level
of pain involved. That's why you don't think it exists or you write it off.
It's okay that you will never know. I, for example, will never really know what
it's like to be a black person in America. I can be told, I can empathize, but
I can never really know that experience, and that's okay. However, I would
never go around putting that experience down, saying it isn't real. I would
never say to a person with no legs "God gave you no legs and that's the way
it's supposed to be, so just live with it--God doesn't make mistakes."
Jake   |69.136.189.xxx |2010-11-03 16:47:20
posting in chunks...part 5 (end)

The transgender people I know are for the most
part very intelligent, high-achieving, upstanding people who have had the
courage and the personal insight--when the world pointed at them and said
"this is who you are"--to stick to their guns and respond "no, THIS
is who I am," sometimes at ages as young as three years old. Why can't we
have a little human compassion and understanding? Why can't we be given the
benefit of the doubt that maybe this condition is real? Why would we make this
up? Another thing I love is when people say "you can't change your
sex." To them I respond "can...and did." It reminds me of the
Chinese saying "Those who say something cannot be done should get out of the
way of those who are doing it." Here's a point to ponder: I was born with
a female body yet I have lived successfully as a man for 12 years. If I am not
transgender, how am I able to do this? I sincerely doubt that any
non-transgender person could live successfully as the opposite sex for any
extended period of time even if they tried because it is not something you can
choose. It's something you are. I believe they would be as miserable in the
opposite sex as transgender people are in their assigned sex. And that's sorta
the whole point.
PGQ  - reality check   |190.108.199.xxx |2010-11-03 18:06:57
When Kay wants to become Kye she needs to get it done legally, otherwise Kye is
simply a nickname. Allums is a female with a uterus,estrogen,ovaries, xx
chromosones, etc. If she wants to change genders she needs to have the operation
otherwise she is a female. Her statements about having more testosterone than
the guys is laughable bravado and the majority of the comments on this board are
as well. Good luck to her with whatever decisions she makes but if one wants
credibility one needs to be honest. This Empress has no clothes until she
decides to man up and become as close to a male as modern medicine can take her.
Christy A.  - Honesty is always best...   |98.196.193.xxx |2010-11-03 18:49:10
I tip my hat to you Kye, I think that you are the breath of fresh air
society needs right now. The LGBT Community is often so ridiculed against
that it took one ftm to make the sports world and others take notice.
We are all individual and unique people who want to live our lives the
way we choose without judgment and you are definitely doing that now
young man. I commend you for your bravery and keep you in my prayers in the
hopes that other people will learn to accept people for their
differences and learn from them. Good luck in your future endeavors and in
your sports career as well...
Anonymous   |66.87.1.xxx |2010-11-03 19:10:59
this is so stupid. the reason your called a female to male is because your a
FEMALE!!!
Ms. Moffet  - whoa   |174.57.220.xxx |2010-11-04 01:28:22
“ I know I’m not supposed to be a girl. If I was, I’d be walking around
like everybody else, getting make-up and doing my nails. But it doesn’t sit
well with me.”

Oy vey.
What a sexist person.
the man  - unfortunate   |71.59.170.xxx |2010-11-04 05:23:19
this is wierd. not saying that straight people aren't wierd in their own way
either. but i think we all are faced with challenges we need to overcome. this
is clearly a challenge that God has put in her life and she needs to overcome
this through acceptance of who she is and not changing what God created. each
one of us need to understand that we have our own cross to bear and that giving
in to our temptations is not what God wants for us. Seek counseling and pray for
strength to embrace God's creation.
kaykay  - digusting   |98.74.76.xxx |2010-11-04 05:24:05
Accepting her the way she is goes to show how debase the society has become,Kay
Kay is a woman and no one sholud let her talk crap to us about how God made
her,God does not make mistakes!
Erin   |69.165.34.xxx |2010-11-04 06:41:56
I applaud the Kye Allums as well as the stance the school is taking on the
subject. Due to my own ignorance there are many things I do not seem to
understand. Number one being... can there be a he on a girls basketball team?
Shouldn't he try out for the men's team? Can a player from a men's team now play
for the women's team? If every woman on the team identified themselves as a
male, is this team now a second men's team?
RandomFlicks   |68.193.197.xxx |2010-11-04 06:55:56
Not to be insensitive, but is it possible for someone to be a Trans-race (ie.
white guy who feels like he is black being born in a white body?)
vsedriver  - confused   |96.11.170.xxx |2010-11-04 09:33:52
Ok, is this a woman who thinks she's a man playing on a woman's team? If 'she'
really thinks she's a man wouldn't 'he' want to play on the men's team?
the one and only ridor  - All in all, it is GWU!   |68.57.62.xxx |2010-11-04 11:41:45


I attended & graduated from Gallaudet University, another school in
Washington not far from George Washington University, Georgetown University and
the University of Maryland. Being an addict to the collegiate women's
basketball, Washington has been the best bet for me to attend a variety of
top-notch quality games.

Joe McKeown, now the present coach at Northwestern
University, literally and figuratively turned the obscure team at George
Washington into the perennial powerhouse in its conference and often played
tough schedules year in and out. For years, GWU was the best team out of these
big 3 schools.

However, it did not surprise me that GW is the first school in
the country that recognizes and accepts the transgender player on its team. GWU
is located in a place that not many people are concerned about your sexuality
but your performance. Foggy Bottom is also the perfect place for people to
learn & move ahead past their sexualities.

Kudos to GW for handling this
overwhelming attention and stood by Kye Allums.

Maybe Pat Summitt can say after
GW's 93-53 loss to Tennessee Lady Volunteers last year, "So that is why she
scored 16 against us last year!"

R-
robbie   |75.204.61.xxx |2010-11-04 17:10:13
Cyd, I heard you on DNR. What I love about this story is that
"conservative" sports fans who hear about this are going to think two
ways if they think about it at all: 1) she should play on the women't team
because "she was born that way", or 2) this isn't fair because it
creates an unfair advantage because they think of the athlete as a he. Either
way, they have to wrestle with who he is and whether he was born that way.
Thanks for the info.
Robbie
Cyd Zeigler   |76.173.234.xxx |2010-11-07 20:58:40
Thanks. Glad you were listening in. DNR do a great job. This issue hits home
with a lot of people. Even some extremely progressive people scratch their heads
over it. Hopefully this article and Kye's story will shed more light about trans
issues and make people a little more welcoming of everyone who doesn't fit
neatly into one world view.
Anonymous   |24.189.1.xxx |2010-11-04 18:26:33
Dr. Robert Stoller, a psychiatrist who researched the transgender issue,
concluded that male and female brains were, in fact, different, and when a male
had a female brain, transgendering was legitimate. The same was true with
females with masculine brains. Of course, a physical male can never be truly
female and a physical female can never be fully male. The surgery is a form of
mutilation and should not be encouraged. With gender roles changing, there
really is no need for this. A male an have a feminine aspect and a female can
have a male aspect.
Mary Waterton  - Chromosomes don't lie   |174.99.102.xxx |2010-11-04 19:44:19
You can add or remove parts, but chromosomes don't lie. He is still a man.


"Be not deceived, God is not mocked; for whatsoever a man soweth, that
shall he also reap." -- Galatians 6:7
Anonymous   |173.190.37.xxx |2010-11-27 12:46:35
Galatians taken out of context, of course. I am a born again female to male
believer in Christ. I get sooo frustrated when my fellow believers take the
Bible out of context. This verse has nothing to do with gender identity.
RealityCheckr  - Stop Discriminating Against Zoophiles!   |98.148.33.xxx |2010-11-04 20:40:00
It is time the GLBT community stopped discriminating against zoophiles
necrophiles and pedophiles, the latter because you're following the
mainstreaming deception script from Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen in
Overhauling Straight American" that instructs homosexuals to marginalize
people for intergenerational love.

All these people above people didn't just
wake up one day and decide to be a pedophile, zoophile or necrophile. They were
all born that way. Who are you to judge!?

These people just want the same civil
rights as you do. What can be wrong with loving someone or some thing?

Stop
the narrow minded bigotry and hate!
Anonymous  - re: Stop Discriminating Against Zoophiles!   |76.119.102.xxx |2010-11-04 22:26:10
RealityCheckr wrote:

These people just want the same civil rights as you do. What can be wrong
with loving someone or some thing?


Mostly because the three behaviors you cite have two HUGE differences:


Firstly, in all three cases they're pretty universally illegal,
and unless you're prepared to cite a body of credible clinical
evidence and social science calling for normalizing any of them, I tend to
think you're being disingenuous in your assertion re: the perps'
struggle for civil rights. Grossly disingenuous, even.

Second, they all involve sexual relations with a
non-consensual partner. Which, handily enough, is the main reason
they're universally illegal.

Only a genuinely hateful person (or a
truly self-loathing closet case) could even pretend there's any connection
between those pathologies and adult consensual sexual relationships
across any genders.

-Lefty
Ted from Toms River  - xgender playing male sports is okay   |69.253.121.xxx |2010-11-04 20:53:03
I have no problem with this story. But the reality is that males are bigger and
stronger and will dominate most mixed-gender sports. If a person who is, let's
say "confused" in any manner wants to qualify for male sports, more
power to them. But I don't think we want female sports overrun with transgenders
who have too much natural advantage over full females.
WOOO on mans Im-a-gi=nation   |4.131.54.xxx |2010-11-04 20:59:58
AH AH AH the JOKE is on all of us everyone MYSELF.GOD gave us all a gift that
seperates us human beings from animales and insects ITS our IM-A-GI-NATION, ITS
a collectiveness of all HIstory,AWAREness,SELF alliances, to exceptance,of
systematic data or inFORMation.WHICH defines WILL!!!!BUT being it is a part of
GOD, GOD put commands into our past to future exsistence,Ancients would say the
collectiveness of information which is a whole in a representation of GODS
will.We have to use it very WISELY or the environment will not fashion with us
IT has happened IN THE PAST and our imaginations are being reintroduced to
ancient time PLAGUES THAT GOD said will not exsist no more when God collects our
as a whole intention GODS choice to prepare RIGHTOUSNESS for the children of
toworrow THE future WILL accuse us over our indulgement of forbidden knowlegdes
that stray our IMAGINAIONS to self destuction the future choices are based on
our mistakes IF we as a whole do not pay attention to the LAW of GOD the
children of tomorrow wont exsist THE HEART OF THE SOUL OF MAN IS HIS IMAGINATION
please everyone you and my dreams depend on this future exsistence of making the
right choices we cant just change our apparence and hide from the truth IM A GOD
INTENDED NATION by the way TRANS means to convert so when a transgender
remembers the desire that influences there GIFT from GOD the imagination they
become a exsample to the wrong choice it is simply confusion PRIDE takes us to
different levels to be natural or a symbol of data not ETERNITY
Anonymous   |67.149.167.xxx |2010-11-04 22:10:41
Apparently GOD also gave YOU a gift to UNNECESSARILY capitalize words for no
APPARENT reason and totally AT random.
Also, I hope you wrote that while
high.

But I sort of get the gist of what you're saying.
Actually, nobody does.
Anonymous   |173.190.37.xxx |2010-11-27 12:50:33
Anonymous, I haven't agreed with a thing you've written until now. Very funny
response!
Jules   |67.161.124.xxx |2010-11-04 21:14:50
Congratulations to the writer! I'm thinking, thinking differently than before,
looking forward to sharing this story with others over beers. Oddly, it looks
like the NCAA actually was well-prepared for this senario. Good luck -- and God
Bless -- to all involved.
Lyndon Evans  - Focus On The Rainbow   |76.218.24.xxx |2010-11-04 21:57:10
Thanks Cyd for another great article which I have been happy to feature at
"Focus On The Rainbow".

In the posting (link below)
is video of Kye's press conference.

Thanks Kye for kicking down yet
another door for the
LGBT community.

http://focusontherainbowopine.outlou dblogs.com/201
0/11/05/george-washington-university -womens-basketball-player-kye-allums-c
omes-out-but /http://http://
Laddie   |209.30.172.xxx |2010-11-04 23:01:19
For the young man, Kye, I admire your courage to stand for what you believe. I
imagine that was no easy task. It would be even more admirable if you resign. A
male presence on the team deprives a deserving female athlete of a scholarship.
Title 9's passage (for better or worse) attempts to remedy years of
discriminatory practices against women's athletics. I acknowledge you as a
person and as a male. However, I wonder how you are able to reconcile divesting
the recent gains women have made in the collegiate athletics arena.
gege   |184.8.85.xxx |2010-11-05 10:28:44
why cant the people who disagree with transgender leave them alone they aint
bothering you and it aint your business let them live the way they are
happy...it is not affecting you. so why bother on even commenting
Dawn   |76.30.23.xxx |2010-11-05 11:20:39
I hope Kye finds love, happiness, and success in life. It is NOT as simple as X
and Y chromosomes. There are so many variations in human sexuality that rigid
gender stereotypes are ridiculous. Thanks, Cyd, for the thoughtful article.
mrunicornguy   |12.130.118.xxx |2010-11-06 23:50:20
for more information about black transmen, please visit: stillblackfilm.org to
check out the film STILL BLACK: portrait of black transmen.
Franky  - Strange   |178.25.198.xxx |2010-11-09 06:42:59
There are strange things in this article for example:

1."Her mom tried to dress her in only the most feminine clothes. But
inside was a man waiting to burst out of the female body he was born
in."


Hating girls clothes isn't a sign that a girl is a boy.


2.“I’ve always felt most comfortable dressing like a boy, but my mom
would take all of my clothes from me and she’d force me to wear
girl clothes,


She was forced to wear this. No wonder that she hates it. But again
where is the proof that she is a man just because she hates
girl stuff?

"As he progressed deep into his teens, despite their similar dress and
manner, he realized he just didn’t fit with the lesbians at his
school either."


This sounds like she only tried to fit with people at her school and
she coulnd't indentify with those. So she is male because she doesn't
fit in a group at her school??


“Who do you think you are, young lady?” The answer was suddenly crystal
clear to him: He wasn’t a young lady at all.


No wonder! Her mother forced her to wear clothes she hates for years.
No wonder that she don't want to be a girl.
I think the reason
for her wanting to be a man isn't that she is "male" no it's
to be free. Free from her mother and free from all the hyper feminine
stuff she was forced to do and she wants to fit in a group. This is my
explanation for her situation. I mean how can you explain that she
says:

And that’s how I know I’m not supposed to be a girl. If I was, I’d be
walking around like everybody else, getting make-up and doing
my nails. But it doesn’t sit well with me.”


Why does she thinks that every woman does that? Is there a law of
nature that women have to like this stuff and if not they are a
men? 

Sorry for my english it's not my mother tounge.
Franky   |178.25.198.xxx |2010-11-09 10:21:11
Part 2: Sorry I didn't know that the comment was too long.

because she
doesn't fit in a group at her school??


“Who do you think you are, young lady?” The answer was suddenly crystal
clear to him: He wasn’t a young lady at all.


No wonder! Her mother forced her to wear clothes she hates for years.
No wonder that she don't want to be a girl.
I think the reason
for her wanting to be a man isn't that she is "male" no it's
to be free. Free from her mother and free from all the hyper feminine
stuff she was forced to do and she wants to fit in a group. The only
group where she is free from all this feminine stuff is the men's group.
But again: This is by far no proof that she is male. 

Sorry for my
english it's not my mother tounge.
Devon Michael   |71.246.231.xxx |2010-11-10 05:36:29
I really think you missed the issue. Even if her mother had never made her wear
dresses... even if she had only known tomboys throughout her school years...
even if as someone else suggested there were less differences between male and
female... He would still be a man on the inside!
Isadore  - So what make one   |70.56.183.xxx |2010-11-10 09:06:15
So what is it, or combination of things, that makes a person know that "He
would still be a man on the inside!"
Devon Michael   |71.246.231.xxx |2010-11-10 05:27:16
Thank you very much for this article. As a 42y.o. transman I read
myself in Kye Allums' story. I applaud him on his courage. I struggled with
identity since I was old enough to know the difference but resisted the urge to
merge body and mind due to family and religious considerations. Thank you young
man for being so bold and telling your story so that another little person won't
feel weird.
Genderfree   |173.190.37.xxx |2010-11-27 13:01:47
Why even have male and female sports' teams? I know it sounds radical, but
think about it. Just test both men and women for testosterone levels at the
beginning of the season and divide up teams according to their levels? Men and
women would play on the same team according to their levels. Wouldn't this
solve the entire sports issue? Personally, I think I'm pretty clever on this
one!
Sherri Lynne Tancyus  - He's playing for the wrong team   |166.166.23.xxx |2011-02-19 12:57:06
I'm a male to female transsexual woman. I don't think it's fair for Kye Allums
to compete on the Women's basketball team.

I wouldn't expect it would be fair
to have to compete on a men's team and I certainly don't expect to be
discriminated against by not being allowed to compete on a woman's team.

If
this is considered to be bias or prejudice on my part, I would reply that why
don't we just have one team in Basketball,and every sport and just whoever can
make the team plays. That would eliminate any of this 3rd, 4th or gender queer,
or whatever one wishes to identify themself as belonging to. Then there is no
reason to complain that their human rights aren't being violated in some manner.
Then women can play football and any other gendered person as well.
It seems to
me that if Kye knows he's a man then he needs to try out for the mens team.
I
knew of another f2m transman who went three years to a women's college. I find
that to be absurd. He should either go to a coed college or an all male school.
Anonymous   |24.216.240.xxx |2011-12-27 14:45:25
You obviously have not had a lot of experience playing sports, especially with
mixed sexes. I am a woman, a little tom-boyish, but definitely a straight,
feminine female. I play basketball at a college level, and I grew up playing
with boys. Even though my skill set was about even with the guys (meaning
shooting and dribbling) there is NO way I could effectively play men's college
basketball simply because I am smaller, slower, and I rarely get rebounds or win
athletic battles.

My point is, just because you couldn't play men's
basketball, doesn't mean Kye should have to play men's basketball because he
identifies as a man. He still has a woman's body, and identifying as the
opposite gender doesn't exactly grant you that gender's physical attributes.
dawnielle   |204.210.207.xxx |2011-03-05 17:01:32
Eric  - You are assuming that God exists.   |147.226.129.xxx |2011-04-14 08:23:29
One major flaw in a lot of these arguments is that people are using God or
religious arguments. You people are making the assumption that God exists, or
that everyone beleives in God. That is not reality, just so you know.

And I
think this article is great, and Kye is an amazing person. As a straight
male....born as a straight male...I would never in my life have the balls to do
something like that. Kye is really an amazing person for staying true to
himself, despite the ignorant and uneducated people that ridicule him. Good luck
next season Kye!
California Coach  - A Team is a Family   |71.135.97.xxx |2011-11-16 14:24:36

When it comes down to it.... You can identify as you want this is
America the land of the free. I'm don't know any player on a team who is Trans
gendered or gay..... All my athletes are kid's so I call the "Kid" As
long as what you do does not bring shame to your family's name your all good
with me. Ball out of control "Kid"!!!! Now I want to see you
play...... Good luck..... Be the best man you can be have principle and
integrity but most of all love your self.
Anonymous  - It is logical that Kye would play on the women's t   |24.216.240.xxx |2011-12-27 14:39:09
Ok. I stopped reading comments after the first ten or so. I'm not going to
comment on the gender part of this article, but I want to clear something up for
those of you who obviously can't track with the whole gender/sex
differentiation.

Kye Allums was born biologically female, as Kay-Kay.

She
didn't feel as if she identified as a "girl," more like a boy. As she
grew up, she played girls' basketball, and obviously is a gifted FEMALE athlete,
good enough to play NCAA Div I (the highest collegiate level)

This article is
about how he came to terms with the fact that he doesn't want to be recognized
as a female, the trials he went through so now those closest to him refer to him
in pronouns and such that he is comfortable with.

He will (or maybe by this
time has had) have a sex change surgery. But he still has the ANATOMY, in every
other way, of a female. Skeletal structure, musculature, lung capacity-
female.

There are always exceptions. But for the most part, between a man and
woman of equal conditioning and similar size, the man will usually run faster,
jump higher, and lift heavier. It would be unfair for Kye to play in the men's
division purely for the physical aspects, let alone the emotional torment he
would probably endure in that league. He is a female anatomically, and unless
bypassing traditional gender binaries gives you super powers, he has the same
athletic prowess as he did when he played along with society's gender
expectations, even though he never truly felt like a girl.

Don't let hot
button issues cloud your common sense, people.
Lex   |121.54.54.xxx |2012-05-03 18:06:24
Late to arrive, late to arrive..

Being FtM myself, I think Kyle's pretty brave
to have chosen to really open up to the community. Although, I think his timing
wasn't that good. He should have waited until he could have hormone therapy
until he came out- why? Because finally coming out as a man should mean that he
should play in men's collegiate basketball. Now he has a scholarship on the
line, and that's totally understandable. But who can take a guy seriously when
he plays for the women's team? He should have waited a wee bit longer to avoid
such controversies.

It's true- once you're out as a man, you have to withdraw
from all the comfortable you spots you had as a woman. It's difficult, but
that's how it's supposed to be. No in-betweens. No negotiations. I myself can't
stand to play on the women's team, even during high school and elemntary, as it
was highly uncomfortable for me, even if I was still acting the role of
"butch".
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