Jordan Windle has been around gay people almost all of his life. Having been adopted from Cambodia at 18 months by Jerry Windle, the Olympic diver has, as a straight athlete at the top of his sport, become a defender and champion of the LGBTQ community. In Tokyo he’ll represent Team USA in men’s 10m platform diving.

On the latest episode of the Five Rings To Rule Them All podcast, I talk with Jordan and Jerry about the young star’s rise, as well as his personal and professional friendship with Olympic champion Greg Louganis. The similarities between the two — both adopted, both young diving proteges — have led some to call Jordan “Little Louganis.”

Also, Jerry gives us insight into the life of the parent of an elite athlete and how Jordan was “discovered” by a diving coach when he was just a kid. Plus they talk about the added complications of being of different races, especially when Jordan was a boy and didn’t fully understand what that was.

Now Jordan is competing for the Univ. of Texas, where he has won multiple NCAA championships and set an NCAA scoring record. Now back on campus in Austin, he talks about the disappointment of the delay of his Olympic dreams and how he’s been prepping to compete at the Summer Olympics in Tokyo.

You can listen to the conversation with Jordan Windle and his dad, Jerry, on the Megaphone player, or by visiting Spotify for an easy browser player. Five Rings To Rule Them All is also available on Google Podcasts, Apple podcasts and many more platforms. Just search for Outsports wherever you get your podcast.

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You can follow Jordan Windle on Instagram @jordanpiseywindle, or on Twitter @DiverJordan.

Jordan Windle competes at the 2017 FINA World Championships.