When Rachael Rapinoe retired from professional soccer, she knew exactly what she wanted to do.

The NCAA champion with the Univ. of Portland dove head-first into coaching and sports-health science. Having co-created a soccer-training company, she’s now the CEO of another company she co-founded, Mendi, which utilizes CBD to help athletes recover.

She talks about all of that and more on the latest episode of the Five Rings To Rule Them All podcast. Rapinoe shares the insights and tools she learned in sports that have translated into her becoming a successful entrepreneur and business woman. There are three key lessons she said she’s taken from sports to her career as an executive.

“The third one is learning to fail,” she said. “There are so many things out there about failure is the key to success. And I truly believe that. And there’s no better lesson in sports, because you fail all the time.”

As she told me on the podcast, as a twin, many of her stories involve her sister, Megan Rapinoe. One of the best is coming out to their mother as gay. Well, one of them came out and the other got outed. Just a little.

Check out the lively conversation with Rachael, including her experience representing the United States internationally, building her company, and so much more.

You can listen to my conversation with Rachael Rapinoe on the Megaphone player, or by visiting Apple podcasts for an easy browser player. Five Rings To Rule Them All is also available on Google Podcasts, Spotify and many more platforms. Just search for Outsports wherever you get your podcast.

You can follow Rachel Rapinoe on Instagram @rrapinoe.