To meet Robbie Rogers is to love him.

The affable trailblazer who came out publicly in professional soccer in 2013, then went on to win the MLS Cup the following year, is easy to cheer for. And he’s got lots to cheer for. He’s the producer of the CW’s hit show All American. He’s got a model relationship with his husband, TV producer Greg Berlanti, and their two kids. He designs clothes and wears them really well.

Yet Rogers has, like all of us, chapters in his life that weren’t so sweet. This week he joins my Five Rings To Rule Them All podcast to talk about his Olympic experience in 2008, when he represented the United States on the USMNT. The Summer Games were one of the highlights of his life, but the team’s failure to make it out of the preliminary round left a lot to be desired for the then-21-year-old Rogers.

We talk about the Olympics and what they meant to him, as well as his TV show, working with his husband, and how the two balance work life with family life. Plus, given Thanksgiving is this week, he spills the beans on the uber-exciting day the family has planned.

You can check out my conversation with Robbie Rogers here…

Note: Around 23:00 of the podcast there is a technical issue with the sound. We regret the error.

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